ARIS BPA vs erwin Data Modeler by Quest comparison

ARIS BPA

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erwin Data Modeler by Quest

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ARIS BPA

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We performed a comparison between ARIS BPA and erwin Data Modeler by Quest based on real PeerSpot user reviews.

Find out in this report how the two Business Process Design solutions compare in terms of features, pricing, service and support, easy of deployment, and ROI.

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ARIS BPA vs. erwin Data Modeler by Quest

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Categories and Ranking

ARIS BPA

Ranking in Business Process Design

3rd

Average Rating

8.4

Number of Reviews

Ranking in other categories

Business Process Management (BPM) (6th)

erwin Data Modeler by Quest

Ranking in Business Process Design

9th

Average Rating

8.6

Number of Reviews

Ranking in other categories

Enterprise Architecture Management (3rd), Database Design (1st)

Market share comparison

As of June 2024, in the Business Process Design category, the market share of ARIS BPA is 9.7% and it increased by 9.4% compared to the previous year. The market share of erwin Data Modeler by Quest is 2.1% and it decreased by 29.7% compared to the previous year. It is calculated based on PeerSpot user engagement data.

Business Process Design

Unique Categories:

Business Process Management (BPM)

6.2%

Enterprise Architecture Management

13.2%

Featured Reviews

Jon_Robinson

Director at Celeris Software, Inc.

Jun 1, 2023

Performs automatic rendering of diagrams, but usability needs to be improved

ARIS BPA was underutilized because they used the ARIS modeling paradigm, including value-added chains, EPCs, and functional allocation diagrams ARIS BPA is coming up with a centralized repository of local business processes that could be referenced for design work and operations. The most…

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Saswata Mondal

Director Data Science at a media company with 5,001-10,000 employees

Jul 11, 2023

The creation of data models is easy and quick, and the fitting model is very intuitive

We use erwin Data Model to create logical and physical data models The solution has been very helpful. The logical and physical data models provide visualization for communication across the business, among the data team, and technical team. Without this solution, communication would be…

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Quotes from Members

We asked business professionals to review the solutions they use. Here are some excerpts of what they said:

Pros

"From an architectural point of view, when you're looking at the business area, you can find all the information you have to use as an architect."

"There is a module designer, that one is very powerful and it creates very good reports."

"This solution has helped us in terms of discovering business processes."

"ARIS has a good collaboration function. You create a portal where any authorized users can work on the models. There are simple flows for making and approving changes."

"Aris BPA has a lot of tools that are more professional than Bizagi."

"The ability to sort via multiple criteria to identify the relationships you need for a specific object."

"Platform that it supports covers legacy and new. Caters to moving older objects into an integrated DB, relatively popular ones: SQL, Oracle, etc."

"The initial setup and installation are very straightforward."

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"Any tool will do diagramming but I think the ability to put the stuff up in a graphical fashion, then think about it, and keep things consistent is what's valuable about it. It's too easy when you're using other methods to not have naming consistent standards and column consistent definitions, et cetera."

"The fitting model is very intuitive."

"The solution's ability to compare and synchronize data sources with data models is fantastic. We use it for that on a regular basis to make sure that changes haven't been made to the database outside of the modeling process. I can take existing databases and reverse engineer them and understand their structure within 15 minutes. If I didn't have Data Modeler it would take hours. It increases our productivity and helps in understanding our legacy application."

"It provides flexibility with the code. You can change the code as you want. Basically, you can change SQL based on what's best for your project."

"There is absolutely no problem with the stability."

"We can create mappings in erwin and possibly data dictionaries."

"I have worked with erwin Data Modeler for quite some time and familiarity is its most valuable feature."

"It's important to create standard templates — Erwin is good at that — and you can customize them. You can create a standard template so that your models have the same look and feel. And then, anyone using the tool is using the same font and the same general layout. erwin's very good at helping enforce that."

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Cons

"Sometimes, ARIS BPA breaks down, and its stability can be improved."

"One of the issues is, when you are defining databases, the way they use entities and relationship diagrams, the way we can define data, like data models, there is still a part they could improve."

"The model graphics can be exported in PDF, but the model is too small to read."

"There should be a more intuitive tool when creating reports."

"Migration to the next release is very tricky. You can't do it without support from ARIS or from a software kit. And it takes a lot of time and a lot of money to migrate. My impression is that a lot of companies do not migrate regularly because of that issue."

"End-to-end visibility and real-time are areas that will need greater attention."

"The user experience's usability (in general) should be improved as the tool is updated."

"Its governance tool and integration with ESB and execution engine can be improved. Their partner support can also be improved."

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"I would like to have more data sources from other, different vendors. In recent years, the vendor has reduced the number of data sources, and I would like to have more data sources for every brand. For example, with Oracle, I would like to have compatibility for many versions, including old ones, not just the most recent."

"It is not a very stable solution. I rate the stability five out of ten."

"The modeling product itself is far and above anything else that I've seen on the market. There are certain inconsistencies when it comes to keeping up with other platforms' databases in the reverse-engineering process. It should also support more database platforms."

"erwin generally fails to successfully reverse engineer our Oracle Databases into erwin data models. The way that they are engineered on our side, the syntax is correct from an Oracle perspective, but it seems to be very difficult for erwin to interpret. What I end up doing is using Oracle Data Modeler to reverse engineer into the Oracle data model, then forward engineer the DDL into an Oracle syntax, and importing that DDL into erwin in order to successfully bring in most of the information from our physical data models. That is a bit of a challenge."

"There is a lack of local support in the China region."

"I would like to see more support for working with the big-data world. There are so many new databases evolving and it's very hard for them to keep up with all of the new technologies. It would be good if they were able to dynamically support big-data platforms, other than Hive and Teradata."

"The reverse engineering in Oracle Databases needs improvement, as there are issues."

"In terms of improvements, support could have been better in terms of installation, especially of workgroups. We struggled quite a bit to get it up and running. Collaboration could have been better from an installation perspective, but it is trivial as compared to what we use it for. Other than that, I don't have much feedback. It works pretty well, and the fact that we've been using it for more than a decade shows that it is quite solid."

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Pricing and Cost Advice

"It is well worth the investment in the enterprise."

"The product is a bit pricey."

"Prices are high. However, they are worth it if the organization utilizes the tool to its full potential."

"If you can afford it, it's the best so far."

"Usually, our company buys technical support from the Software AG site. We bought the technical support for the first year of usage for ARIS version 6 and 7. So, when we migrated to ARIS version 7, we bought support only for the first year. Then, we didn't use it the next year. Our experience was that we use it only one to three times during the first year. Therefore, there wasn't much value for us to buy this service because we have no problem with using ARIS after the first year."

"Negotiate. Price is high so make sure you’re getting the best deal."

"The solution has a fair price for the value it delivers."

"ARIS Express is free."

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"erwin has this option where you pay a one-time fee and you have the license for six years, which makes sense because I don't upgrade my database engine every other year. I have an application that depends on it. This is something weird about PowerDesigner. There are no additional costs beyond the standard licensing fee."

"The pricing of the solution is cheap. I rate the pricing a five out of ten."

"I don't specifically know what we're paying now. About three years ago, in another organization, I have this memory of 6,000 AUD a seat or something like that, but I am not sure. In the mid-2000s, it was something like 1,200 AUD a seat. I get the impression that there was a price jump when it was spun off from CA as a separate company, which is understandable, but it could sometimes be a barrier in some organizations picking it up. I haven't talked to erwin people yet, but I'm going to suggest to them that they could perhaps think of having an entry-level product that is priced a bit lower, and then, you can buy the extra suite."

"Price-wise, erwin Data Modeler is okay. You can purchase a single license and it is not very expensive."

"Pricing is very high compared to any other product."

"There are no costs in addition to the standard licensing fees."

"erwin is expensive compared to other solutions. We are paying almost $6,000 per seat a month."

"The primary reasons that erwin was selected were that it was much more affordable for us [than Embarcadero] and it was easily maintainable."

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Top Industries

By visitors reading reviews

Financial Services Firm

15%

Government

11%

Computer Software Company

11%

Manufacturing Company

10%

Financial Services Firm

19%

Government

10%

Computer Software Company

Manufacturing Company

Company Size

By reviewers

Large Enterprise

Midsize Enterprise

Small Business

Questions from the Community

What do you like most about ARIS BPA?

The most valuable features of ARIS BPA are its flexibility and reporting.

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What is your experience regarding pricing and costs for ARIS BPA?

ARIS has different licensing mechanisms for different modules, but they are perpetual licenses. So you pay once. It is a mid-range product in terms of licensing costs. So, it depends on what you wa...

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What needs improvement with ARIS BPA?

I always miss an execution module that is better than the current one. The current one is called ARIS Process Governance, and it's mostly focused on setting up internal workloads for ARIS and the p...

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What do you like most about erwin Data Modeler by Quest?

Forward engineering, DDL generation, reverse engineering, and reporting are the most valuable features of the solution.

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What is your experience regarding pricing and costs for erwin Data Modeler by Quest?

erwin Data Modeler by Quest is an expensive solution.

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What needs improvement with erwin Data Modeler by Quest?

The solution's model mark could be better because it crashes sometimes.

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Also Known As

ARIS, ARIS BPM

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Overview

ARIS is the market-leading solution for professional business process management and modeling. Whether you want to document the "as-is" state of your operations for quality or certification reasons or design the "to-be" in terms of continuous improvement in your transformation program, ARIS is the best choice for establishing a single source of truth regarding all process excellence topics in your organization. It is for any organization looking to digitally transform their business, increase operational excellence and customer experience and ensure compliance in execution. ARIS helps you to make the most out of your processes with Process Mining, Risk & Compliance Management, RPA and much more.

What makes the difference?

The most comprehensive platform for process excellence in the market
Easy to use
Covers business & IT architecture from all angles
Full flexibility and >100 diagram types
Customer-driven development based on best practices
Strong partner ecosystem

ARIS is the market-leading solution for any organization and ideally suited to digitally transform the organization, increase operational excellence and customer experience and ensure compliance in execution.

erwin pioneered data modeling, and erwin Data Modeler (erwin DM) remains trusted, award-winning software for data modeling and database design, automating complex and time-consuming tasks. Use it to discover and document any data from anywhere for consistency, clarity and artifact reuse across large-scale data integration, master data management, metadata management, Big Data, business intelligence and analytics initiatives – all while supporting data governance and intelligence efforts.

Sample Customers

Tesco, Weifu, Airbus, Siemens, Proximus, Alicorp, Sekerbank, Bancor, Philips,Sky, Emirates NBD, Dubai Municipality, Suva, U.S. Army, Australia Post, Westfalen Weser Energie - ARIS serves customers across all industries and of every size worldwide. Companies trust ARIS as the market leader for process excellence with more than 30 years of experience in the market, 10 million users worldwide, from 1 user companies to the Fortune 500.

Premera, America Honda Motors, Aetna, Kaiser Permanente, Dental Dental Cali, Cigna, Staples

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