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VSAN vs. EVO:RAIL

I really like what VMware is doing with their Software-Defined Data Centre strategy – the idea of allowing customers to use commoditised low cost compute, storage and networking hardware for their infrastructure has got to be a good thing – we are on the verge of hopefully making IT both much simpler and cheaper.

What I am not so sure about is EVO:RAIL, I get VSAN (see An introduction to VMware Virtual SAN Software-Defined Storage technology and What are the pros and cons of Software-Defined Storage?), but does EVO:RAIL actually make sense?

There are some advantages – it is easy to order, as it is a fixed configuration and it is easy to deploy, just plug-in, power-on and go.

But compared to VSAN it has some serious constraints:

  1. Why can’t we specify a CPU and memory quantity (6-cores seems a bit behind the times today)?
  2. Why can’t we specify the SSD and HDD configuration (the supplied capacity seems a bit on the low side)?
  3. Why can’t we start with 3 nodes and then add nodes one at a time (purchasing 4 nodes at a time does not seem ideal)?
  4. Why can’t we re-use existing vSphere and VSAN licences?
  5. Why can’t we choose to use something other than vSphere Enterprise Plus (Standard or Essentials Plus may well be more appropriate)?
  6. Why can’t we transfer the VMware licences to another EVO:RAIL appliance or standard server (the licences are OEM based and tied to the hardware)?

I would also argue that VMware has done a great job of making vSphere and VSAN easy to deploy, yes it is going to take a bit longer than EVO:RAIL, but you are not talking about a significant amount of extra time.

So for me EVO:RAIL just does not make sense, not from a technical point of view, but commercially. If VMware were to follow their strategy of Software-Defined solutions surely they would allow customers to buy EVO:RAIL compliant hardware and EVO:RAIL software separately.

Even better just have a special EVO:RAIL build of vSphere that uses standard vSphere/VSAN licencing – that way the customer can move their licences between what ever hardware form they like, is that not the point of the Software-Defined Data Centre?

It looks to me a bit like the vRAM tax and hopefully VMware will listen and make some adjustments.

Comments would be very much appreciated as I am sure there are plenty of people with different opinions.

Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: We are Partners with VMware.
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it_user186357 - PeerSpot reviewer
it_user186357Solutions Architect with 51-200 employees
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Hi,

I think it it early days for VSAN and even when it does take off it will be deployed along side SAN/NAS arrays in medium to large organisations.

As with all technologies the architecture of something like VSAN has both positive and negative attributes when compared to an array.

Best regards
Mark

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it_user234735 - PeerSpot reviewer
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I’m impressed with the interface - simple to use.

The same VMware EVO:RAIL vs Nutanix questions keep popping up over and over again. I figured I would do a quick VMware EVO:RAIL Overview post so that I can compare with Nutanix or Simplivity.

What is EVO:RAIL?

EVO represents a new family of ‘Evolutionary’ Hyper-Converged Infrastructure offerings from VMware. RAIL represents the first product within the EVO family that will ship during the second half of 2014. EVO:RAIL is the next evolution of infrastructure building blocks for the SDDC. It delivers compute, storage and networking in a 2U / 4 node package with an intuitive interface that allows for full configuration within 15 minutes.

Minimum number of EVO:RAIL hosts?

Minimum number is 4 hosts. Each EVO: RAIL appliance has four independent nodes with dedicated computer, network, and storage resources and dual, redundant power supplies.

Each of the four EVO:RAIL nodes have (at a minimum):

  • Two Intel E5-2620 v2 six-core CPUs
  • 192GB of memory
  • One SLC SATADOM or SAS HDD as the ESXi™ boot device
  • Three SAS 10K RPM 1.2TB HDD for the VMware Virtual SAN™ datastore
  • One 400GB MLC enterprise-grade SSD for read/write cache
  • One Virtual SAN-certified pass-through disk controller
  • Two 10GbE NIC ports (configured for either 10GBase-T or SFP+ connections)
  • One 1GbE IPMI port for remote (out-of-band) management

What is VMware software included with an EVO:RAIL appliance?

  • vSphere Enterprise Plus
  • vCenter Server
  • Virtual SAN
  • Log Insight
  • Support and Maintenance for 3 years

Total Storage Capacity per Appliances?

  • 14.4TB HDD capacity (approximately 13TB usable) per appliance, allocated to the Virtual SAN datastore for virtual machines
  • 1.6TB SSD capacity per appliance for read/write cache
  • Size of pre-provisioned management VM: 30GB

How many EVO:RAIL appliance can I scale to?

  • With current release EVO:RAIL scales to 4 appliance (16 Hosts)

Who are the EVO:RAIL partners?

  • The following partners were announced at VMworld: Dell, EMC, Fujitsu, Inspur, Net One Systems, Supermicro
  • All support is through by OEM.

How EVO:RAIL Run?

  • EVO:RAIL runs on vCenter Server. vCenter Server is powered-on automatically when the appliance is started. EVO:RAIL uses the vCenter Server Appliance. You can use vCenter Web Client to manage VMs.

EVO:RAIL Networks

  • Each node in EVO:RAIL has 2 x 10GbE NIC (SFP+). This means there is 8 x 10GbE NIC per hosts.
  • IPv6 is required for configuration of the appliance and auto-discovery. Multicast traffic on L2 is required for Virtual SAN.
  • EVO: RAIL supports four types of traffic: Management, vSphere vMotion®, Virtual SAN, and Virtual Machine. Traffic isolation on separate VLANs is recommended for vSphere vMotion, Virtual SAN, and VMs. EVO: RAIL Version 1.0 does not put management traffic on a VLAN.

EVO:RAIL Deployment

EVO: RAIL deployment is simple, with just four steps:

  1. Step 1. Decide on EVO: RAIL network topology (VLANs and top-of-rack switch). Important instructions for your top-of-rack switch are provided in the EVO: RAIL User Guide.
  2. Step 2. Rack and cable: connect the 10GbE adapters on EVO: RAIL to the 10GbE top-of-rack switch.
  3. Step 3. Power on EVO: RAIL.
  4. Step 4. Connect a client workstation/laptop to the top-of-rack switch and configure the network address to talk to EVO: RAIL. Then browse1 to the EVO: RAIL IP address, for example https://ipaddress:7443.

The wizard asks questions about the host names, networking configuration (VLANs and IPs, etc.), passwords, and other things.

After completing the wizard, you get a snazzy little build process indicator that shows a high level workflow around what the engine is doing.

Once completed, you get a very happy completion screen that lets you log into EVO:RAIL’s management interface.

Once logged in, you are presented with a dashboard that contains data on the virtual machines, health of the system, configuration items, various tasks, and the ability to build more virtual machines.

The interface will allow you to manage virtual machines in an easy way. It has pre-defined virtual machine sizes (small / medium / large) and even security profiles that can be applied to the virtual machine configuration!

EVO:RAIL provides you monitoring capabilities. Simple overview.

Conclusion

I’m quite impressed with the interface for EVO:RAIL, it uses HTML5 and is very simple and friendly to use. Welcome to Hyper-Converged World. Next discussion, EVO:RAIL vs Nutanix.

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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We can use it at a remote site in our other branches without paying for more bandwidth. We cannot, however, add more VM clusters to scale up.

Valuable Features

It's an all-in-one solution that fits a small environment.

Improvements to My Organization

Remote sites- we have several hospitals so we can use it at a remote site in other branches if we didn’t want to pay for more bandwidth.

Room for Improvement

It wasn’t scalable enough for our needs – could be more scalable to add more VM clusters. Sometimes it didn’t play nice when you tried to bring in another cluster, we wanted to see how far we could go and it didn’t perform like we needed. Performance was lacking.

Stability Issues

Very high – we didn’t see any issues with stability during our POC.

Scalability Issues

It seemed limited to us because we are enterprise.

Customer Service and Technical Support

We used it through Dell, but support was excellent. This is key when I'm selecting new vendors.

Initial Setup

It was straightforward.

Implementation Team

We used a vendor team.

Other Solutions Considered

No one does anything like VMware does.

Other Advice

Your size will determine how you should approach picking a new vendor. I know they are trying to push EVO:RAIL for big business, but I think its more medium business at this point.

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It is a nice piece of technology, but it is way too expensive.

My view on EVO:RAIL has always been that it is a nice piece of technology, but it is way too expensive with a deeply flawed licensing model (more thoughts at VMware EVO:RAIL or VSAN – which makes the most sense?). It has just been “improved” because you can now use existing vSphere licenses which will dramatically reduce the cost of the appliance (more details here).

Even though VMware had a great chance to really make things so much better they have wasted the opportunity – amazingly they are still forcing you to use Enterprise Plus whereas Essentials Plus would be more appropriate in most cases. It is also not clear if the vSphere licences can be moved, or if Virtual SAN and Log Insight are still tied to the hardware or if existing licenses can be used as well.

So this still leaves us with the following questions:

  1. Why would you have to use vSphere Enterprise Plus?
  2. Why would you not have perpetual rights to all of the software?
  3. Why would you want 4 under-powered nodes?
  4. Why would you want the minimum number of nodes to be 4 (2 or 3 would be better)?
  5. Why would you scale in 4 node increments (1 would be better)?
  6. Why would you not allow the addition of extra drives?

The bottom line is I would love to know what VMware’s agenda is for EVO:RAIL – if anyone knows please get in touch because I just do not get it.

Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: We are Partners with VMware.
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Nutanix vs. EVO:RAIL

2015 IT Trends: Convergence, Automation, and Integration.

The hyper-converged gaining momentum each of the last few years, there are more and more customers taking notice. During VMworld 2014 in August, VMware announced of hyper-convergence: the EVO: RAIL, the combination of virtualization software loaded onto four blade servers, sliding on a rail into a 2u space of a server rack. It represents compute, storage, and networking in a single modular unit.

Please read my other post for VMware EVO:RAIL and Nutanix.

VMware software included with an EVO:RAIL appliance:

  • vSphere Enterprise Plus
  • vCenter Server
  • Virtual SAN
  • Log Insight
  • Support and Maintenance for 3 years

Hardware:

Hypervisor:

Some customers are implementing non VMware products to virtualize workloads, the flexibility to support more than VMware is quickly becoming important. VMware EVO:RAIL only support VMware while Nutanix support KVM or Hyper-V over VMware.

Read my other post for VMware and Microsoft Hyper-V 2012R2 here.

Storage:

This comparison is not cover performance, only comparing the availability and data services that the hyper-converged platforms offer.

Nutanix are using a Virtual Storage Appliance (VSA). There is a VSA on each node in the storage cluster and they act like scale out storage controllers. While VMware has taken the approach of building VSAN as a module in the vSphere kernel. Each approach has its benefits and draw backs. The VSA model will use more host resources to provide storage services. Using the VSA is allowing vendors to offer deduplication, compression, backup and replication among other services. While VMware’s integrated approach uses far less resources, it does lag in the data services it can offer currently.

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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The real comparison needs to be made between Nutanix and EMC/Dell's VX-Rail. This is a much closer than the EVO:Rail go to market concept.

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