Senior Systems Engineer at a healthcare company with 501-1,000 employees
Deployments with VNX & VPLEX are pretty simple. The problem came into play when we began using RecoverPoint with VMAX.
What is most valuable?
Complete out of band block replication with EMC storage arrays (such as VNX, VMAX, & VPLEX). It's seamless integration into VMware's Site Recovery Manager is very useful.
How has it helped my organization?
We have been able to achieve a very low RTO & RPO with near real-time replication policies & adequately sized journals for a limited recovery time requirement to bring systems online as well as a great recovery point to roll back to in the event of a disaster or outage.
What needs improvement?
The new Gen5 appliances have adopted the Unisphere management interface & it is written for Adobe Flash, which in my experience, is very slow & makes administration cumbersome at times. The Unisphere interface is missing some components that were taken out of the Gen3 Recover Management console such as the ability to refresh views & rescan splitters to pull in new storage on the fly without having to cancel a CG creation mid-flight.
What was my experience with deployment of the solution?
Deployments with VNX & VPLEX are pretty simple as the splitter is installed on the SPs for VNX & on the directors for the VPLEX. The problem came into play when we began using RecoverPoint with VMAX. We discovered that the write splitting takes place at every single director port where a write occurs so in order to capture all writes, you have to zone the RPAs to every single FA port that has volumes mapped to them & are in use for RecoverPoint. It was a technical "gotcha" but we were able to rectify it.
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What do I think about the stability of the solution?
Only when we discovered that the zoning requirements for VMAX were different than standard VNX deployments did we run into issues; however, we were able to quickly resolve that issue.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
This solution is quite scalable. The maximum number of nodes per RP clusteris 16 so there's no issue there. The caveats associated with that are that you will need additional FC ports (by a factor of 4) on your storage fabric to support each new RPA. Also, if you are increasing the number of nodes in your cluster you are likely replicating more storage, in which case you will need adequate RecoverPoint capacity licensing to do based on the size of your work load.
How are customer service and support?
Customer Service: Good at time but also questionable at times. EMC has grown to such a big enterprise they are struggling with their support sector.Technical Support: Good at time but also questionable at times. EMC has grown to such a big enterprise they are struggling with their support sector.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
We were not using any other replication technology at that time but we are currently looking at Zerto as an alternative to RecoverPoint due to cost constraints & easibility of use of the Zerto product.
How was the initial setup?
It was complicated learning the configuration on the VMAX array due to each director port performing the write split operation. VNX & VPLEX arrays do not operate this way so it is much easier to configure & manage RP when using VNX or VPLEX.
What about the implementation team?
If through a vendor team, how would you rate their level of expertise? Implemented with direct involvement from EMC professional services.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
We did not evaluate others before RecoverPoint. It was a package deal with our VNX purchases.
What other advice do I have?
Make 100% sure it meets your needs & integrates properly. Otherwise you could end up paying additional licensing fees to make it work & you could also be put in a situation where the deployment is overly complicated due to the infrastructure you're using it in.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Senior Infrastructure Solutions Architect at Benya systems
Dependable backup solution with excellent automatic failover feature
Pros and Cons
- "RecoverPoint's most valuable feature is the automatic failover."
- "RecoverPoint's WAN optimization could be improved."
What is our primary use case?
I mainly use RecoverPoint as a disaster recovery site plan.
What is most valuable?
RecoverPoint's most valuable feature is the automatic failover.
What needs improvement?
RecoverPoint's WAN optimization could be improved.
For how long have I used the solution?
I've been using RecoverPoint for almost six years
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
RecoverPoint is very stable.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
RecoverPoint is scalable.
How are customer service and support?
Dell's technical support is fast and efficient.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup was very simple and took around a week.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
RecoverPoint came free as an add-on to the PowerProtect Data Manager backup software from Dell EMC.
What other advice do I have?
RecoverPoint can be depended on as your only disaster recovery solution without any need to mix different types of failover systems. I would rate RecoverPoint as nine out of ten.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
Hybrid Cloud
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Mature with a nice user interface and good management capabilities
Pros and Cons
- "The solution is now Flash-based, which is better. they moved away from Java."
- "The cost of the solution is pretty high. The licensing costs may affect a company's ability to scale."
What is our primary use case?
Our customers are using this solution. We basically use the solution for DR, Disaster Recovery.
What is most valuable?
The setups that we have in place are great. We use the site replication, the Continuous Remote Replication. That's quite useful for us.
The stability is good.
the initial setup is straightforward.
One advantage of the RecoverPoint is the ability to recover to a point in time. You also have so many images and you are able to recover them.
The product is quite mature.
The solution is now Flash-based, which is better. they moved away from Java.
The management capabilities are excellent.
The product has a new user interface, which is very nice.
What needs improvement?
There's always room for improvement, although I don't have a specific example on hand.
The cost of the solution is pretty high. The licensing costs may affect a company's ability to scale.
For how long have I used the solution?
I've used the solution for five years or so. It's been a while.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
We have found the solution to be extremely stable. There are no bugs or glitches. It doesn't crash or freeze.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
The solution is scalable. The only downside is it might be a little bit expensive in terms of being limited in terms of the consistency of groups that you can create. The licensing tends to be a little bit pricey for the region in which we are operating.
How are customer service and support?
I haven't needed technical support and therefore cannot speak to how helpful or supportive they are.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
What we used to have was not exactly the same. However, from a storage point of view, we've used some things such as IBM Metro Mirror, SVC for implementing similar solutions. Instead of using the additional RecoverPoint, we used Global Mirror for continuous change volumes. We also used Metro Mirror.
We used these other products in slightly different scenarios - not in exactly the same way we are using Dell.
How was the initial setup?
With the Dell EMC products, the implementation is quite straightforward. You have the implementation procedure. You can actually generate details to guide you through the implementation if you're not familiar with the process. From that aspect, it is fine. There's not really an issue.
What about the implementation team?
I am able to handle the implementation for clients.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
The licenses are expensive.
What other advice do I have?
I handle the installation and support of the product for clients.
I'd rate the solution at a seven out of ten. I'm pretty happy with it. It's a good solution.
Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: partner
Head - Solution Design & Architect at a tech services company with 201-500 employees
A stable and reasonably priced product that gives continuous data protection
Pros and Cons
- "The solution provides continuous data protection."
- "The product should provide integration with new products."
What is our primary use case?
Our clients use the product for replication.
What is most valuable?
The solution provides continuous data protection.
What needs improvement?
New products like PowerStore do not support RecoverPoint. The product should provide integration with new products.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have been using the solution for almost eight years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
The product is stable. I rate the stability a nine out of ten.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
I rate the solution’s scalability an eight out of ten.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup is very easy. I rate the ease of setup a ten out of ten.
What about the implementation team?
On average, the deployment takes at least three hours.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
The product is fairly priced. I rate the pricing a seven out of ten.
What other advice do I have?
Overall, I rate the product a nine out of ten.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
On-premises
Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: Partner
CEO/Technical Director at Flebytes Limited
A well priced, stable solution that doesn't use too much bandwidth
Pros and Cons
- "The solution is very stable. Once it's installed, many customers forget they even have it."
- "The solution normally supports only specific types and amounts of storage. If it could be increased to support much larger amounts or a wider range, it could fetch a bigger market."
What is most valuable?
There are two features that are very good. One is that it doesn't use a lot of bandwidth. The other is that you can recover all the way up to a certain particular moment.
What needs improvement?
The solution normally supports only specific types and amounts of storage. If it could be increased to support much larger amounts or a wider range, it could fetch a bigger market. If the solution could work with other storage solutions, it would be better.
I would like them to add automation features across the solution.
For how long have I used the solution?
I've been using the solution for more than five years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
The solution is very stable. Once it's installed, many customers forget they even have it.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
The solution is very scalable. As long as you have room for the storage, it can scale up to meet it.
How was the initial setup?
The solution is very simple to implement. Even a customer could do it. You don't have to be too technical.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
The solution isn't too expensive. There are no other fees above licensing. Once you buy the license, because the license is attached to the storage that you are replicating, it's a one-off price.
What other advice do I have?
I would recommend the product. It's good, especially for those who want to do replication and don't have a lot of money. It's a very good product and it uses very little bandwidth.
I would rate the solution eight out of ten.
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Solutions Architect with 51-200 employees
RecoverPoint combines vSphere Replication with RecoverPoint for storage arrays
The history of RecoverPoint is an interesting one – first off it was available via a host-based (i.e. Windows) or Fabric-based (i.e. Brocade) splitter and used dedicated physical appliances. Things got really interesting when EMC built the splitter technology into their arrays (VNX, VMAX and VPLEX) as it became much simpler and more cost effective to deploy. The next phase of its evolution was to create a virtual appliance that can be deployed more cost effectively that the physical appliances – initially these were even free, but now there is a nominal charge for them.
The next logical progression of the technology is to go back to the beginning and build new host splitters, but for hypervisors rather than operating systems. The great news is that VMware has just introduced a feature called vSphere APIs for I/O Filters (VAIO) – sounds pretty cool, but what does it do?
It allows VMware’s partners to plug their technology directly into the VM I/O Path to provide services like server-side caching, de-duplication, compression, replication or encryption.
This provided the RecoverPoint team with the capability to build a splitter directly into vSphere that can replicate individual VMs (VMDK and RDM) on any type of storage supported by VMware (FC, FCoE, iSCSI, NAS and DAS) – much like vSphere Replication.
Thus RecoverPoint for Virtual Machines was born combining the best of vSphere Replication with the best of RecoverPoint for storage arrays.
How does it improve on vSphere Replication?
- Uses continuous replication rather than copy-on-write snapshots
- Has minimal impact on storage performance so can scale much further
- Enables synchronous and near zero RPO asynchronous replication
- Uses WAN optimisation to significantly reduce bandwidth requirements
- Has in-built orchestration so does not require Site Recovery Manager
- Uses a journal to enable recovery to any point-in-time
- Can replicate a group of VMs at a consistent point-in-time
What are the RecoverPoint for Virtual Machines components?
- vCenter plug-in
- ESXi write-splitter
- Virtual appliance
vSphere 5.1 and 5.5 are supported.
So if vSphere Replication meets your needs and its impact on performance is minimal then stick with it (as it is included with most versions of vSphere why would you not?), but typically copy-on-write snapshot based replication solutions do not scale well (see Comparing asynchronous remote replication technologies) so this is where RecoverPoint steps in. I especially think for customers of EMC XtremIO (which currently does not have native replication) RecoverPoint for Virtual Machines will become the de facto solution.
vSphere VAIO and RecoverPoint for Virtual Machines are two pretty significant pieces of new technology that are going to provide even more options for customers – which has got to be a good thing.
Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: We are Partners with EMC.
Senior System Engineer at a financial services firm with 501-1,000 employees
Our site disaster recovery plan was simplified by scripting the failover procedure.
What is most valuable?
Main feature we use is remote (async) data replication, over IP, over a distance approx 300 kms.
How has it helped my organization?
- Data replication with Recoverpoint over a long distance without FC is simple and delivers a cost reduction (ethernet DWDM is cheaper than fiber)
- Our site disaster recovery plan was simplified by scripting the failover procedure.
- Offloading the storage array with replication tasks was very useful to us because in the past our experience with Mirrorview /A icm with high data change rates was sometimes problematic.
What needs improvement?
I am not familiar with improvements in Recoverpoint v4.xx, so I don't know exactly what the latest improvements are.
For how long have I used the solution?
- EMC Recoverpoint/SE
- Software version 3.5 SP1
- Bi-directional data replication between two VNX5500
- Total amount of replicated data 25 TB.
- We've been using it now for about 3 years. (same hardware, some newer software versions)
What was my experience with deployment of the solution?
No, together with EMC support personal we had a good deployment. The sizing was done well, the only puzzle was to set up the consistency groups in the right way and spread them out over the Recoverpoint nodes. In the end this was done by 'trial and error'. But later on we would use the commandline to monitor the loadbalancing.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
No problems at all.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
No, though some CG's (mostly VMWare ESX) are busier than others. Overall performance is good. Each datacenter site consists of two nodes (local cluster).
How are customer service and technical support?
Customer Service: Very good, EMC did support us to implement it well and gave useful instructions/ lessons to help to maintain it well.Technical Support: Excellent
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
Yes, EMC Mirrorview /A and /S. Because of relocation of our datacenters the distance between them increased enormously because of the large distance and the availability of Ethernet only between the sites.
How was the initial setup?
Initial setup was straightforward and data replication did work very quickly. The main puzzle was to seize the replication sets and consistency groups. Our host environment is rather complex. (Open VMS, Linux, AIX, Windows, ESX)
What about the implementation team?
Vendor team, their expertise was excellent.
What was our ROI?
Actually I do not know but due to merging and organizational changes the solution will run for three years total.
What other advice do I have?
My advice is very positive. There is a good plug-in VMWare vCenter for SRM, stretched Windows clusters, local replication feature, granular level in Point In Time Copies.
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Technical Team Lead at a tech services company with 501-1,000 employees
Enables the rolling back of volume states to a point in time.
How has it helped my organization?
A traditional way of data protection is to perform backups. With a backup solution, we can implement Recovery Point Objectives (RPOs). However, we are not really sure how to reach Recovery Time Objectives (RTOs), especially when those RTOs have minimal values.
With RecoverPoint, we can "instantly mount" an image Point in Time in case of a problem. The RTO was improved, for sure.
What is most valuable?
Continuous Data Protection and Remote Data Protection are the most valuable features:
- Continuous Data Protection: Enables the rolling back of volume states to a point in time within seconds.
- Remote Data Protection: Permits the replication of environments in a synchronous or asynchronous way with minimal bandwidth consumption.
What needs improvement?
RecoverPoint journals consume a lot of storage to obtain a large RPO.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have used this product for three years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
We did not encounter any stability issues.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
We did not encounter any scalability issues.
How are customer service and technical support?
We have not called support for three years. The technical documentation is good, so I would give it a rating of 9/10. I am not sure that technical support is perfect.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
We used to deploy Oracle Data Guard for replicating Oracle, but RecoverPoint can replicate other environments because it acts on the storage side.
How was the initial setup?
We had an easy setup. Just remember to size your storage well.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
I recommend using the CL licensing mode.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
Other replication solutions are specific to products (Data Guard for Oracle, VMware replicator for VMware), but RecoverPoint can replicate multiple products.
What other advice do I have?
RecoverPoint acts on a block level and it needs an EMC Splitter to work. If your storage arrays are not EMC, then you need to virtualize your storage via VPLEX before acquiring RecoverPoint.
Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: EMC Reseller
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