We are running Apollo with SL-series servers and the best thing about them is the density of the storage area available. Regarding TCO, total cost of ownership, per terabyte, they are now the best on the market.
Network Administrator at CSC Finland
The storage area density is the best thing about them. Outside connectivity needs to keep pace with network improvements.
What is most valuable?
What needs improvement?
Connectivity to the outside of the server needs to be improved at the same time the network is improving. This would give us more IO. Of course, this is a firmware lifecycle management issue; there is work to do. Vendors should test the firmware before they are delivered to customers.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
Stability is good enough.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
Scalability is fine because with this kind of service we can easily scale horizontally. We are more or less satisfied.
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How are customer service and support?
The technical support in Finland is fine.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
We made a transformation from enterprise storage to an open-source distributed storage architecture. We switched because the pricing is better.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup was business as usual. It's not so complicated, but of course it takes time.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
The price is not significantly lower than the competition, but it's lower than the standard price.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
We looked at Dell and Super Micro. They are both on the market in Finland.
What other advice do I have?
You should run the stable firmwares on a test platform for about a month before you roll them out. This is something we have to do that right now.
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Head of Industrial Automation & Modeling at a mining and metals company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Stable solution for management and monitoring.
What is most valuable?
It's a stable product; very reliable. It is a good basis upon which to build further. You see some evolution, but not too much. If you go to their events every year, you see an incremental evolution which is normal in that road.
How has it helped my organization?
I'm just a general manager and I’m not really technical. However, it gives you a nice, better flavor of the monitoring. I have heard that it provides better management and you can see the possibilities.
What needs improvement?
OpenView is a new product which does not support older versions of the hardware. This is an issue. That's why we cannot switch to the newer one. We continue using the older product, and that's working fine. I would like to see a bit more integration. This is the major topic.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
It is stable and scalable, but the new product has some advantages which we like. However, we cannot switch because we have an issue between non-supported and supported devices.
What other advice do I have?
When choosing another vendor, we look at the overall product and then the software product on top of that. Switching to another vendor is always a big step. We normally don't do that because it presents issues. Every solution will migrate to the same functionality. There is not a great difference between various solutions, but only an incremental one.
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Research Support at a university with 1,001-5,000 employees
It's a dense product, meaning we can fit several servers into our rack space.
Valuable Features
For us, the most valuable features are the price and density. We have very limited space and we're able to fit four servers into our data center's rack space. Although I think a lot of the servers from different vendors are going to be very similar because they all use Intel chips, making them essentially the same, it's the HP management software that makes it better than the competition.
Improvements to My Organization
The biggest benefit for us is a physical benefit in that we can save our very limited space. Again, it's a dense product, meaning we can fit several servers into our rack space.
Room for Improvement
The licensing could be greatly improved, I think. We have a very hard time tracking it because we have to get a license for every server and machine. We have to click in our email, then go to the site, then login to HP, then download the license, then we have to do it all again for each server and machine, and we have to know which server or machine the license is for and give the license to the installer. It's inefficient, overly complicated, and should be simpler and pain free.
Deployment Issues
We haven't had any issues with deploying it.
Stability Issues
It's been stable so far, but we've only had it a few weeks.
Scalability Issues
We have six racks and we can fit another. At the moment, we have sixteen Apollo servers and we're going to put 40 in as we have the space for that.
Customer Service and Technical Support
We've signed up with a third-party management service. They've been really good so far.
Initial Setup
The initial setup was simple for us. HP came in, they racked and stacked it, and the software guys came in. This took a day or two and they were all done with the image. The whole process including hardware and software stack took about two weeks.
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Scalable solution with great programming storage
Pros and Cons
- "The solution is well documented in a data sheet."
- "The predictive analysis feature could be improved."
What is most valuable?
The most valuable feature is the amount of programming storage available.
What needs improvement?
The predictive analysis feature could be improved. We would like the solution to be able to implement automatically in the next release.
For how long have I used the solution?
We have been using the solution for about two months. We are currently using version eight, and it is based on-premises.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
This product is scalable. A large team is currently using it.
How are customer service and support?
The customer service and support are available 24/7.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
This is the only solution we have used. It was implemented from the beginning.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup was straightforward. The solution is well documented in a data sheet.
What about the implementation team?
The deployment was done through a third party.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
I cannot comment on the licensing costs as a different department handles it.
What other advice do I have?
I rate this solution a ten out of ten. Unfortunately, I have been working with it for only two months, so I cannot give advice to others. However, the solution is good and can be improved by including automatic implementation in the next update.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
On-premises
Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: Partner
Network End Data Center Architect at a tech services company with 1,001-5,000 employees
A compact system with a powerful CPU and powerful hard drives, perfect for our branches
Pros and Cons
- "We usually use three blades for two-rack units, and with enough storage, it's really a small system with a powerful CPU, powerful hard drives, powerful disks."
- "We would like to see SimpliVity on top of the Apollo."
What is our primary use case?
We use the Apollo system for most of our branch offices. Our roadmap is to implement Apollo in all our branch offices by the end of 2018. So we will have something like 50 branch offices with Apollo.
We performed a PoC. We were very happy with it, so we decided to implement it in all the branches.
What is most valuable?
It's a compact system. We usually use three blades for two-rack units, and with enough storage, it's really a small system with a powerful CPU, powerful hard drives, powerful disks. So it provides enough performance in terms storage value. And the internal network, we are also very happy with it. So, for the branches for us, it's perfect.
How has it helped my organization?
The benefit is, as I said, we are compressing everything. In the past, we used StorageWorks P2000, plus SAN switches, plus three or four servers and so on. Now, we have two-rack units for everything.
For a branch it's perfect because it's simplifying our life.
What needs improvement?
We would like to see SimpliVity on top of the Apollo.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
Touch wood, it's perfect until now. Nothing to complain about.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
We are not using it in that manner. We are not using it for the scalability. So the size, one Apollo for each branch, is perfect for us. We are not thinking about scalability.
How are customer service and technical support?
As usual, with HPE, we are very happy with the support. Honestly, we used it only once for the Apollo system, but all our kits are HPE. So we use their support often and we haven't noticed any difference between Apollo versus C7000 or DL servers. So it's in line with the standard HPE support and we are happy with that.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
We have a strong relationship with HPE. So HPE was proactive in proposing this solution. We had a PoC, as I said, and we were happy with it and decided to implement it. It satisfies all our needs and is the perfect solution.
How was the initial setup?
It was straightforward.
We always have an HPE engineer on our site, close to us. But usually, we prefer to do this kind of setup, at least the first time, to put our hands on the device itself, by ourselves. So the setup was done 95% without the support of this engineer. And maybe 5% for optimization with the support of this guy.
What other advice do I have?
Our most important criteria when selecting a vendor include, of course, the experience of the technician, then the support. With HPE as I said, we have a strong relationship. So there is a priority channel for HPE versus other vendors. We always perform a PoC, we compare the vendors. But we were happy with HPE so we have no reason to change right now.
I rate it eight out of 10 right now. It will be a 10 when SimpliVity will be on top of it.
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Executive Vice President with 501-1,000 employees
It gives us the density of a blade without the issue of shared IO, but it needs direct integration with software.
What is most valuable?
It gives us the density of a blade without the issue of shared IO, and a good price point for object storage.
How has it helped my organization?
It's allowed us to compete with cloud storage providers like AWS to put together a scalable on-premises solution of more than 20PB at a similar pricepoint.
What needs improvement?
Direct integration with software (Cleversafe, Scality, Ceph) for a purpose-built object store appliance. Stay closer to the current rev of processors. I know it is a heating/cooling issue, but being a couple of revs back is problematic when comparing consolidation of workloads with standard intenl servers running the latest chips.
For how long have I used the solution?
We have implemented this for a few client over the past three years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
Big stability issues with the CPU on the first generation which made them virtually unusable. HP has done a better job of regression testing against software (hypervisors and big data platforms specifically) in the recent generations.
How are customer service and technical support?
It's got better in the past year and in line with other major manufacturers (Cisco, EMC).
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
Standard Proliant servers (DL380s) with internal storage. We also looked at SAN and NAS solutions, as well as VSAN technologies from VMware, HP, and Citrix. None could hit the pricepoint to compete with AWS S3.
How was the initial setup?
Standard server technology. Some initial issues with flashing FW, but the rest was straightforward.
What about the implementation team?
We were the vendor.
What other advice do I have?
Great solution for object stores. Consolidation ratio on compute doesn’t make it a great alternative for virtualization hosts, but could be a decent hyperconverged platform. HP is utilizing SL technology for their CS-250 Hyperconverged appliance.
Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: HP Platinum Partner.
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