It is an affordable alternative to hardware SAN and is seamlessly compatible with our vSphere 5.5 hosts which are sitting on HP Proliant hardware. The 'valuable' feature is in essence the product itself - virtual storage.
Network Administrator at a retailer with 501-1,000 employees
It has allowed us to expand our available ESX storage without replacing arrays or adding hardware.
What is most valuable?
How has it helped my organization?
It has allowed us to expand our available ESX storage without replacing arrays or adding hardware. It also helps with vMotion and provides disk space for extra clients on hosts with under-allocated CPU/Memory.
What needs improvement?
The key element is whether virtual storage is the right choice, and what hardware you are going to use. I suppose I could wish for less latency, but that might be coming from configuration as opposed to actual product support – especially since I only see latency on one of the two VSAs that we have deployed.
The things that I wanted almost three years ago when we purchased, have already been improved. Those would have been limited licensing and minimal support documentation. A good alternative might have been to hire an integrator familiar with both HP and VMWare products.
For how long have I used the solution?
We've had it for about three years.
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What was my experience with deployment of the solution?
We had no issues with the deployment.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
The stability has been exceptional.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
The limitations of two hosts and 10TB per VSA is acceptable for the cost savings.
How are customer service and support?
Customer Service:
We use a third-party vendor, so my excellent customer service experience is due to my local contact.
Technical Support:HP technical support has always been good when dealing with enterprise products.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup for the VSA was straightforward, it uses an OVF virtual appliance. I did have to refer to highly detailed instructions for the vSphere configuration for NICs and iSCSI software adapters. Since this is a virtual SAN, I use only software RAID 0 and no snapshots - those are better handled by the HP hardware arrays and vSphere, respectively.
What about the implementation team?
Since we are a small enterprise shop and I have fairly sophisticated knowledge of both storage and virtualization, I did the implementation myself. I recommend that unless you have solid knowledge of designing and configuring your hypervisor environment that you use an experienced consultant.
What was our ROI?
Since our gain is roughly equivalent to having a small hardware SAN, and we purchased during a BOGO promotion, I would estimate our ROI somewhere around 900%.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
It comes with three years software support, but I've never had to use it.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
We compared VMWare VSA to HP StoreVirtual VSA. At that time, the VMWare solution was limited to a single VSA per datacenter, and we use two of the HP VSAs between four hosts, so that was our deciding factor.
What other advice do I have?
It is an excellent alternative to small hardware SANs if you already have the disk space on other servers and adequate network bandwidth for your level of disk activity. I can only comment on use within a vSphere environment, but in my experience, it is simply awesome. I would like to warn that before implementing a VSA, you should thoroughly evaluate your storage and network requirements. Good design of a VSA implementation is just as critical as good design of a hardware SAN.
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IT Manager for Infrastructure at a government with 1,001-5,000 employees
It's very solid, and we haven't really had any trouble with it.
What is most valuable?
StoreVirtual has been real good for us. We started with the original P4300 LeftHand SANs before they became StoreVirtual. What I love about those is the two nodes and the mirroring back and forth, and you can't lose anything. It's very solid, and we haven't really had any trouble with those either. We have a newer StoreVirtual that we've connected to one of the C3000 Blade Enclosures and it runs well. We lost a system board once and we lost a couple of servers, but we were able to bring everything back. Equipment-wise, it allows us to do all our work. We're real happy with that.
How has it helped my organization?
The things we like best about it is just that it's safe, it's reliable, it's easy to transfer data back and forth, it's easy to replicate elsewhere. We've been very happy with them.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
Outside of the one incident on the StoreVirtual where we lost the system board which was a little tough. If the guy who came out to replace it knew what he was doing and put the right firmware on, then we wouldn't have lost any virtual servers. But beyond that, the other ones have been very good and we've been really happy there.
How are customer service and technical support?
It's been hit and miss. I guess there's some guys in Texas or Houston that we've been able to get a hold of who know their stuff and it's like a different group, the LeftHand people. They know their things inside and out, and usually are able to steer us right to what we need, so we've been real happy there.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
We'd seen a couple of lunch and learns and meetings and talked to some of the LeftHand people, and decided it made sense cost-wise and function-wise. We were using some Dell EqualLogics, actually we were using EqualLogic before Dell bought them. So we were still using those in conjunction with the LeftHands that then became StoreVirtuals. Then when we put in one of the C3000 BladeEnclosures, we bought an actual StoreVirtual and that gave us the space to run the servers that we need.
How was the initial setup?
The setup has been really easy. I did it three or four times after the system board failed. It was easy to run through the system, but the tech support guys kind of walked me through what we needed to do, and actually I set it up in the first place, so that's been real good too.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
I had a guy from EMC call me once and his whole sales pitch was, "Well, we've got the biggest marketshare." And I told him, "That's a load of crap." Our deal is, we can't afford that stuff, and we don't want it. Even if Dell's got them now, we still don't want it. One of the things that we really love about HPE in all phases is the ability to continue maintenance, to continue coverage. Where we got the word from Dell that five years after the day you bought your EquaLogic you're out of luck. We won't sell you anything, we won't sell you parts, we won't sell you ... and we're like, "Okay, we won't buy your stuff." And we haven't. We got real close on 3PARs, we may still do that again, but we went a different direction. But, you know, "Treat us fair and we'll buy." That's what we love about HP, we really have no complaints.
It was a recommendation from the vendor that we said, "This is solid." When we first bought them, we'd actually gone two or three HP events and listened to the whole talk of, "Here's how, what it's put together, here's how it works." So, that's kind of what lead to it, was that we pretty much just said, "Okay, we'll trust you. Let's go with it." And we've been happy.
What other advice do I have?
I don't think we'd have any good reasons to go elsewhere. In fact we have done that. We were talking to a guy from city of Carson City, and he was having some server issues and so we hooked him up with our vendor, and they took him out of the Dells he had, and gave him some HPs and he's been very happy ever since.
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Project Leader & Senior Consultant at a tech services company with 51-200 employees
Redundancy of the product, especially for remote locations, is the most valuable feature.
Valuable Features
Redundancy of the product, especially for remote locations, is the most valuable feature. Easy implementation and easy online upgrade process, which is very secure, are also great. If anything happens, the upgrade can be restarted or stopped without an impact on the production.
Improvements to My Organization
We and our customers did not have any downtime for their SAN, not because of an update or due to an expansion of the cluster with extra nodes. The support tool does not depend on one system. It just reads the status of the SAN and can be installed on more than one device.
Room for Improvement
You cannot easily mix SAS with SATA or SSD within a cluster. So tiering is not easy to implement at a reasonable cost.
Use of Solution
I’ve done about 30 implementations in the last six years. Most of our implemented systems are clusters of P4500G2/P4530/P4300 G2/P4330.
Stability Issues
The system is functional and always up, even if several nodes need rebooting when an upgrade takes place.
Scalability Issues
It has on the fly scalability.
Customer Service and Technical Support
Support for StoreVirtual is a separate team within HP. All the support-engineers are specialists which can always find a way to fix your issue.
Initial Setup
A complete installation of a four-node cluster can be done within four hours to be ready to move your VMs to the new cluster. It's very easy.
Implementation Team
Only the first implementation with a vendor team. After that it is straightforward.
ROI
There is not an easy way to build redundancy at this price. Only one license with all the features is needed as it has no additional costs. Every vendor should do that.
Other Solutions Considered
We use this product for easy redundancy over two locations. No other solution could make this happen as easily. We also resell EMC SAN and the business case of the customer is the most important to fit the best SAN.
Other Advice
Always follow best practice to be sure to connect in the best way to your VMware or Hyper-V-environment.
Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: We are reseller of this HP product.
Counsel
Data is stored in two different places, leveraging more security and availability
Pros and Cons
- "Data is stored in two different places, leveraging more security and availability. Therefore, network problems are having less affect on iSCSI."
- "Simplicity of not having to buy FC or FCoE SAN. Instead, we buy servers with their own storage."
- "Product looks like it is in the end of development."
What is our primary use case?
Enterprise data and health care. All our data was in a P4500 StoreVirtual, now it is gradually moving to a 4 Node VSA.
How has it helped my organization?
Data is stored in two different places, leveraging more security and availability. Therefore, network problems are having less affect on iSCSI. We also plan to build a Metro Cluster using VSA.
What is most valuable?
- Data replication (Network RAID 10)
- Simplicity of not having to buy FC or FCoE SAN. Instead, we buy servers with their own storage.
What needs improvement?
Product looks like it is in the end of development. HPE will be probably be merging with SimpliVity. I hope they will continue the product as we already have multiple HW servers besides HPE, and a software SDS means more flexibility for us.
For how long have I used the solution?
More than five years.
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IT Manager at a healthcare company with 501-1,000 employees
With the new virtual environment in ConvergedSystem, I don't need to purchase new servers because I can create a new server and continue work.
Valuable Features:
The most valuable feature is that it allows me to have more servers in my data center. Also, the support I get from HP is tremendously valuable. We have VMware, Microsoft, and HP blades, enclosures, and 3PAR in the data center, but HP provides us with a single point-of-contact for any issue. I'm very happy with the support and I've actually seen them worry more about issues than I have been.
Improvements to My Organization:
The biggest benefit is cost savings because I have to bring in a lot of new technology. For example, with servers, we need one for archiving, another for BI, and another for IT support. With the new virtual environment in ConvergedSystem, I don't need to purchase new servers because I can just create a new server and continue work.
Room for Improvement:
HP needs to be more careful about the partners they select for implementation. With a virtual environment, HP cannot just provide hardware to the customer and expect the customer to complete the implementation themselves. With the virtual environment of ConvergedSystem, you have to do a lot of integrations and software installations. HP should have stricter mechanisms as to which implementation partners they provide their customers. I've had issues with implementation partners, but HP's support has been great and they eventually resolved my problems.
Stability Issues:
There are stability issues, but I'm happy with the support. No technology is error free, that's why HP has support.
Scalability Issues:
It is highly scalable. We have four links that contain nine servers, and the enclosure itself can go up to 16 blades. The infrastructure has many things, such as FlexFabric, SAN switches, network switches, storage, and the enclosure. If I need to increase capacity, I only need to increase the number of blades and to put in new discs into my 3PAR servers. I believe that with this infrastructure, I can scale for the next seven years.
Other Advice:
It fulfills all my requirements, the price is good, and it's scalable.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Imaging Business Technical Manager at a pharma/biotech company with 501-1,000 employees
It's a unique staging environment for us where we mimic a real-life environment on a smaller scale.
What is most valuable?
It's HP's attempt to put everything into one box, which we've found to be a real blessing. Previously we didn't have a consolidated, unified solution for compute, storage, and networking. It's also simple to configure and to operate.
How has it helped my organization?
We operate in the healthcare sector, and there aren't a lot of solutions that allow us to make sure that our solutions are ready to go in our environment. We have a unique staging environment. We literally test the solution to death before it goes into the hospital environment with the 80/20 rule. If it's 80% configured, we'll run it step-wise before it gets over the doorstep. This helps us to mimic a real-life environment on a smaller scale.
What needs improvement?
For our use, it provides what we need. I don't think there's much else they can throw into the converged box. I don't think, however, it would be suitable for our actual production environments because we need something much more sophisticated and expandable. It would need more constituent parts for storage and compute to work faster.
What was my experience with deployment of the solution?
We've had no deployment issues.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
It's stable for how we use it.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
One reason we chose this is because our test systems are not huge and, therefore, don't need to really scale. We have historically tried to reduce our compute needs to be simpler. So even the smallest ConvergedSystem has enabled us to grow. For our small-to-medium-sized customers, we don't need too many alterations. For our larger customers, we typically invest in higher specs. So it's a solution that works perfectly well for us for what we need it to do.
How are customer service and technical support?
We have a solid second-line support for our hardware and we train our own staff to take up first-line support. This empowers us to triage anything and not have to worry about HP resolving minor hardware elements. We're still able to escalate something quickly if there's a catastrophe. By doing the initial triage, you could say we have 24/7/365 coverage.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
As we move away from physical tech and look more into virtual solutions and sharing infrastructures in the medical world, we need to secure our data. Even our test data needs to be locked away and separate from other data for security reasons. So we were looking in particular for a small environment but yet big enough for our test environment. ConvergedSystem hits that sweet spot where we have just enough compute, storage, and networking capability.
How was the initial setup?
We are moving more into the enterprise solutions now. The HP ConvergedSystem enabled us to take a step in that direction but not be overbearing in terms of the technology. The configuration and initial setup was a little bit of a challenge for us as we needed to train our staff. Now our staff that are trained up and it's fairly simple and straightforward.
What other advice do I have?
Be sure to look at your requirements, not just short-terms but also medium-to-long term. Make sure you invest only to the typical three- or five-year window to give yourself the flexibility to move into something else if necessary.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Senior Storage Consultant at a tech services company with 10,001+ employees
The software is stable, but hardware/disk failures happen frequently
Pros and Cons
- "The initial setup is straightforward, not a complex procedure."
- "Hardware and disk failures are happening frequently."
What is our primary use case?
We do the implementation of the solution.
Our customers are using it for their backup and file storage.
What is most valuable?
Catalyst handling.
The software is perfect.
What needs improvement?
Hardware and disk failures are happening frequently.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have been using the solution for seven to eight years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
It is stable. I am not getting many calls about the product, only about disk failure.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
We are working on single node only. That is a limited edition for this solution.
We have several customers. There are 50 to 70 users connected.
How are customer service and technical support?
We use the technical support.
Documentation is all available on the HPE site for all the products.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup is straightforward, not a complex procedure.
What other advice do I have?
We always recommend this to our customers, but we only have one solution.
I would rate the solution as a seven (out of 10).
Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: Partner.
Systems Engineer at BETA CAE
The network RAID feature provides maximum availability.
Pros and Cons
- "The network RAID feature gives us maximum availability, since we cannot afford any downtime, even for a second."
- "The penalty for the availability is performance. So, you have to balance or choose between the availability and the performance."
How has it helped my organization?
It gives us what we want. It provides stability and availability. It is a very reliable solution.
What is most valuable?
The network RAID feature gives us maximum availability, since we cannot afford any downtime, even for a second. We need our systems continuously up.
What needs improvement?
The next release is already out and I found that the many of the improvements that we were thinking about in the product such as the dual controller, are already implemented.
The penalty for the availability is performance. So, you have to balance or choose between the availability and the performance. We chose availability, but it would have an impact in the performance.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
Now, we're not afraid of anything that goes wrong.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
We didn't have any problems. We scaled up a few years ago; the system was just fine.
How are customer service and technical support?
We have used the technical support only for faulty replacements such as replacement of disks, for example. The contract was for the next business day. It was fine.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
We were not using any other solution previously. Our partner suggested this product; we saw that it fits our needs and tried it out. We were quite pleased with the result and decided to invest in this solution.
How was the initial setup?
I was involved in the setup process. It was easy.
What other advice do I have?
If this solution fits your needs and also if your environment is similar to ours, then we would suggest this solution.
The factors that we look at while selecting a vendor are that they should be innovative, provide a good support option and have reliable products. I don't want my product to fail.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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