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it_user157611 - PeerSpot reviewer
Project Leader with 5,001-10,000 employees
Vendor
With the dataflows created in Dataservices, the customer could load and consolidate data from three different offices.

What is most valuable?

The easy integration with SAP Systems and the possibility to create a dataflow which is executed directly in the SAP system source.

How has it helped my organization?

With the dataflows created in Dataservices, the customer could load and consolidate data from three different offices (USA, Europe and Argentina) using the same dataflows for every company.

What needs improvement?

We used a different repository for every consultant and it created problems to maintain the final version of each dataflow in every user. I think there should exist a common repository (as well as in BO reporting suite tools) and give the different accesses via authorization roles.

For how long have I used the solution?

I used it for 10 months.

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What was my experience with deployment of the solution?

The biggest problem was the maintenance of difference repositories.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The stability problems were caused by hardware configuration. My doubt is if Dataservice is difficult to configure or there was a lack of knowledge in the Basis team.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

No, we didn't. Actually the dataflows constructed were completely scalable.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

No, in that project we only used BO Dataservices.

How was the initial setup?

I think it is easy to use. When we started to use it we had never worked with Dataservices and we could adapt to it easily because the main functions are similar to other tools.

What about the implementation team?

The implementation was with a vendor team. Actually I was the project manager of the vendor and the level of expertise in ETL projects was high but it was our first experience with DataServices.

What was our ROI?

We only had the net margin of the project construction and it was about 15%.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

As the person in charge of the consultancy, we didn’t have costs.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

Before working with Dataservices I had worked with other solutions, but in this project we had no choice of another tool. Anyway, I think that Dataservices was a good choice because every source was SAP.

What other advice do I have?

From my point of view, Dataservices is a good ETL choice if there are SAP systems in the sources or the targets (it can help to make BW transformations much easier). In general I would say that it is very important to have a good source and destination definition before implementing anything, as well as in any other ETL tool.

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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President at i-DValue
Consultant
Enables ability to change the source and target from Oracle to SQL without changing your code

What is our primary use case?

  • Data warehousing project (with CDC or comparison table to update our histories).
  • Four sources: SQL Server, Oracle, SAP ECC, Excel file.
  • One target: Azure SQL Data Warehouse.
  • Complex transformation to load the Data Warehouse (good and simple optimization).

How has it helped my organization?

  • It's very simple to build a data flow.
  • The development is faster than SSIS or Talend.
  • Impact analysis is very useful to know who used this KPI (the report on the user that had access to this report).
  • Profiling data is very useful to know the interesting fields.

What is most valuable?

  • Portability of development (you can change your source/target from Oracle to SQL without changing your code).
  • Web console monitoring.
  • Auto-documentation.
  • Simple toolbox with all you need.

What needs improvement?

  • Development with web tool (today is with client tool).
  • Connection to Active Directory to extract user and group.
  • A PaaS cloud service (today is on-premise).
  • Better connection to SAP BW.

For how long have I used the solution?

More than five years.
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reviewer1256877 - PeerSpot reviewer
Manager of Customer Care Center at a construction company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Real User
Good logging capability, but not a solution that I recommend for incident management
Pros and Cons
  • "The most valuable feature is the logging capability."
  • "The interface is not quite user-friendly and is in need of improvement."

What is our primary use case?

Our primary use is for storing incidents and all of the financial information that accompany them.

How has it helped my organization?

We do maintenance on buildings and our customers call if there is a problem. Each time a call comes in we log the incident, solve the problem, and later invoice the customer.

What is most valuable?

The most valuable feature is the logging capability. We use it for logging incidents.

What needs improvement?

The interface is not quite user-friendly and is in need of improvement. 

In the next release of this solution, I would like to have a planning tool.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using SAP Data Services for two years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

With respect to stability, we have not had any problems.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

We have not had issues with scalability.

How are customer service and technical support?

We have our own technical support group, so I have not been in contact with SAP for support.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

We are currently evaluating ServiceNow to see if it meets our needs and has a better user interface.

What other advice do I have?

This is not a solution I recommend for incident management. SAP works well for the financial side of the business, but for anybody who is researching solutions for incident management, I suggest that they use another product.

I would rate this solution a six out of ten.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

On-premises
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Technical Project Manager Big Data and BI - Banking at a tech services company with 5,001-10,000 employees
Real User
Easy code writing and good stability but needs integration with big data solutions
Pros and Cons
  • "The fact that it's built on SQL, it makes it easy to write code. The database and the connection are quite smooth."
  • "The description of error messages isn't extensive, although they point to the problem. With other solutions, like Talend, I was able to use the debugger to get directly to the problem, but with SAP Data Services the debugger is not working. I'm not sure if it's a problem with the version specifically, but I'm using it in an enterprise environment and I can't do an upgrade."

What is most valuable?

The fact that it's built on SQL, makes it easy to write code. Also, the database and the connection are quite smooth. 

What needs improvement?

The solution lacks user-friendly features. Compared to other integration tools I've used before, it's less user-friendly and the built-in features just aren't sufficient. 

The description of error messages isn't extensive, although they do point out the problems. With other solutions, like Talend, I was able to use the debugger to get directly to the problem, but with SAP Data Services the debugger is not working. I'm not sure if it's a problem with the version specifically, but I'm using it in an enterprise environment and I can't do an upgrade.

The query feature does not allow a lot of flexibility in building the code. They need to make progress with this feature as well.

In future releases, I'd like to see the integration of a big data solution within SAP Data Services. I don't know if they offer that right now. The version I have is quite basic. If I was able to use more data sources with other software, and have the solution be more compliant with more data source types and big data sources, that would be helpful.

For how long have I used the solution?

I've been using the solution for 1.5 years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

I would rate the stability seven out of ten. It's good, but it's not the best.

How was the initial setup?

I wasn't part of the initial setup, so I can't speak directly to the implementation of the solution.

What other advice do I have?

We are using the on-premises version of the solution. We work on the enterprise version and have a few hundred users.

I like the platform. It's quite robust. It's just there are little improvements that could make the solution better, but it's quite a good tool.

I would rate the solution seven out of ten.

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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FranciscoSantos - PeerSpot reviewer
Director at Pixel Studio PTY
Real User
Top 5
It offers short development time and pre-built processes for data migration and DQ

What is our primary use case?

Data migration and data quality.

How has it helped my organization?

It offers short development time and pre-built processes.

What is most valuable?

Ease of development.

What needs improvement?

Big data, real-time connectivity without the need to use SAP Replication Server

For how long have I used the solution?

More than five years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

Excellent too

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

Excellent, you build a network of Job Servers to balanced the execution load

How are customer service and technical support?

Local teams always available, plus direct support from Walldorf if required

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

I'm using SAP Data Services since it was an OEM product in Cognos in 1998

How was the initial setup?

Data Services itself, none. The must difficult (kind of) ids to setup the databases connectivity for sources and targets.

What about the implementation team?

In-House

What was our ROI?

Lower time to put applications in Production

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

The SAP Data Services EE License has all the additional products for enterprise wide data delivery, like Information Steward, Event Stream Processing, etc.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

None, because other products cannot connect to SAP generating ABAP code to access pool and cluster tables

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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it_user157620 - PeerSpot reviewer
Microstrategy Developer Specialist at a tech services company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Consultant
The initial setup was straightforward and complex projects are in the pipeline.

For how long have I used the solution?

I am Microstrategy BI developer with 6 years experience and with 1 year experience on SAP Data Services.

How are customer service and technical support?

Out of 5, I would give SAP Data Services technical support a 4.5. The technical support from SAP was quick and technically very clear. The way the issues are being reviewed and the response we receive are great.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

The first ETL tool being implemented is SAP Data Services and it was implemented during 2008.

What about the implementation team?

The product was implemented by a third party consulting company. The implementation was good from a technical perspective, but there were few flaws in the business logic which the third party consulting team should have gained from the in-house business analysts.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

Since I recently joined a year ago, I am not sure whether any other tool was evaluated along with this ETL tool.

What other advice do I have?

I would advise implementing SAP Data services using a Unix platform rather than a windows platform.

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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Business Intelligence and Decision Support Team Leader at a university with 1,001-5,000 employees
Real User
ETL and third-party data integration are great features, but inadequate data analysis and data profiling has increased testing and user-acceptance duration.

What is most valuable?

ETL is very useful. We use Data Services not only with data warehouse development but also integration with other 3rd parties and external data.

How has it helped my organization?

We have integration with 30 different systems now. Business users manual data-entry load has decreased, and data between different systems are consistent in almost-real time.

We can develop time-based, visualized analyses with our BI platform, and four years ago, business users had to prepare their complex records in Excel every time they needed data reports. Now they only need to refresh reports. On the other hand, business users were only able to query data four years ago, but now their visions are changing and they are now performing data mining and forecast analyses.

What needs improvement?

Data mining and more visualized reports are the next steps.

What was my experience with deployment of the solution?

We had to deal with data quality problems.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

It has inadequate data analysis and data profiling, which has increased testing and user acceptance duration.

BO Web Intelligence, v4.0 is more unstable than XI v3.x. We’ll upgrade to v4.1 in Q3.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

No, we did not.

How was the initial setup?

Setup was straightforward, but the customization and implementation process was complex.

What about the implementation team?

We started with a vendor-partner, but now we have in-house team and still get consultancy advice from the partner.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

  • Cognos
  • Microsoft SSIS
  • SSRS

What other advice do I have?

First, perform an analysis of your business users' requirements.

The data quality and your data warehouse models are the most important parts of a BI project. Design the model from both business requirements and source data. Make sure you involve business users from the beginning and explain the advantages of business intelligence to the data life-cycle well. Assign a short and attractive name to the web site and/or tool that users can remember easily and will like.

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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it_user162117 - PeerSpot reviewer
Consultant at a tech vendor with 10,001+ employees
MSP
Auto documentation & recovery of jobs are valuable but when working with custom functions, repeatedly fails to execute.

Valuable Features

  1. Impact and Lineage analysis.
  2. Auto Documentation.
  3. Recovery of jobs.
  4. Text Data Processing.

Improvements to My Organization

I've done a migration project (from OWB to BODS) in Singapore. The reason customer opted for BODS over OWB was automated trigger E-mail when job fails and the recovery of the jobs from the point it failed in the last execution. Also, when loading data from flat files, once the data loading from a file is complete BODS is capable enough to call any batch files to move the processed files to another location after completion.

Room for Improvement

When working with custom functions, many times it fails to execute (from 4.0 onwards) because of the data types mismatch errors. This has to be corrected.

Use of Solution

More than 6 Years.

Deployment Issues

No issues with deployment.

Stability Issues

No issues with stability.

Scalability Issues

No issues with scalability.

Customer Service and Technical Support

Customer Service:

100% as no manual intervention is required once the solution is implemented.

Technical Support:

100%.

Initial Setup

It was quite straightforward for me as I had experience with other ETL tools and the concepts.

Implementation Team

Through vendor team and the level of expertise was satisfactory.

Other Solutions Considered

OWB.

Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: My company is a Partner with the vendor.
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