Performance of flash at a much lower cost.
Senior Systems Engineer with 51-200 employees
It offers per-VM queuing, QoS, and most importantly was designed specifically for virtualization.
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IT Challenges:
Recently I had been trying to solve a problem with latency in a Microsoft 2012 R2 RDSH environment hosted on NetApp FAS storage and vSphere 5.5 Enterprise Plus. Storage was fast in terms of hard drive standards using 15k RPM SAS drives, and latency on the aggregate and volumes was relatively low. Although when connecting to RDSH any amount of latency is very noticeable.
NetApp has two different types of Flash technology to make use of intelligent caching. One is called Flash Cache which are PCIe cards that fit directly into the NetApp controllers and provide improved “read” performance. Flash Cache is a very good idea, but based on my metrics; I was seeing about 50/50 split between read and write latency. Another technology that NetApp offers is called Flash Pool and unlike Flash Cache, both read and writes can be cached on the Flash Pool SSDs. I went ahead and procured a brand new disk shelf with a combination of 10k RPM SAS drives and SSDs. The disk shelf was configured as a hybrid aggregate to take advantage of NetApp’s Flash Pool. Initial testing and benchmarking proved to have increased performance and lower latency. Once I was satisfied, I proceeded to Storage vMotion the RDSH environment to the new datastore. Users saw a much-improved performance at first, but as the environment grew and more VMs were added to this datastore, the latency increased and performance dropped.
Another idea that was new to vSphere 5.5 is the vSphere Flash Read Cache (vFRC). This seemed like a possible solution to at least reduce some of the read latency and was worth a shot. I went with a single 200 GB SSD for each ESXi host to keep the cost down since this is a new vSphere feature that we had not tested yet. Initial tests showed improvement and two Virtual Machines were upgraded to VM Version 10 and vFRC enabled. Soon afterwards I started seeing issues with Veeam backups either failing or VM Snapshots constantly needing consolidation. This was before Veeam v8 that has NetApp integration and the ability to take storage snapshots. After working with VMware and Veeam and not being able to find a resolution, I was forced to disabled vFRC.
Tintri Does “IT” Better
When it comes to high-performance flash storage, there are a lot of players in the market. It was no surprise to hear vendors tell me that an “All-Flash” array was necessary for my type of workload. While All-Flash would indeed solve the challenge I was having, was it the appropriate solution and does it make sense from a cost versus performance standpoint? The short answer was no. In this situation, a “Hybrid-Flash” array made the most sense. But you may be saying to yourself, we just spoke about NetApp’s hybrid solution that did not work out. So what makes Tintri different? Well, just about everything.
Let me just say, this is not Tintri versus NetApp. This is Tintri versus aging storage technologies that have seen very limited improvements over the years. These traditional storage arrays use file systems that were designed long before virtualization hit the market, and the same file systems are still used today. Tintri, on the other hand, has a brand new file system that was created from the ground up, offers per-VM queuing, QoS, and most importantly was designed specifically for virtualization. One of the reasons I learned about Tintri was from looking into VMware VVols for more VM-level management at the storage layer. Unfortunately, VVols is still in its infancy, and Tintri created VM-aware storage several years before the release of VVols.
But it is not just about who came up with the idea of VM-level management first. It is about how each technology was designed and implemented. As I said before, Tintri was built from the ground up and is purpose-built for virtualized environments. VVols is just an API and does not change the underlying storage architecture. Point being, not all storage systems are created equal and traditional storage systems cannot deliver such VM-level data services as they don’t fundamentally understand VMs and vDisks.
Enough with the comparisons. You just want to know how well the Tintri VMstore performs, and I can tell you it performs great! The RDSH environment that experienced latency now lives on a Tintri VMstore T820. Latency is consistently sub-millisecond, and the flash hit ratio is always 99-100%. The performance with the RDSH environment is so much improved that I can work more quickly when logging into the RDS Farm when compared to using my local laptop. But Tintri is not just an RDS or VDI solution. It works great with all types of workloads whether it be websites, databases, Exchange, and much more. If you are looking to increase performance and save money in your virtualized infrastructure, then you need to check out Tintri.
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Senior Systems Engineer with 51-200 employees
We have been using NetApp for several years and made the switch for increased performance.
What is most valuable?
How has it helped my organization?
No longer need to manage LUNs and reclaim space. No need to worry about performance degrading when capacity exceeds 80%. Space savings is great.
For how long have I used the solution?
1 month
What was my experience with deployment of the solution?
No, the deployment was very quick and easy to setup.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
Never any stability issues. Even OS upgrade is simply and can be done during production hours.
How are customer service and technical support?
Customer Service:
Great customer service!
Technical Support:Haven't had the need for technical support.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
We have been using NetApp for several years and made the switch for increased performance. The performance of the T820 exceed that of our NetApp FAS8040 with 46x 10k RPM drives with 5x SSD drives for Flash Pool.
How was the initial setup?
Initial setup was very easy. Just fill in some information including IP addresses, jumbo frames, LACP, and you are good to go.
What was our ROI?
TBD, but had we purchased the Tintri prior to spending money on NetApp there would have been a huge cost savings.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
Pricing is great, especially for what you are getting. The closest competitor I would match Tintri too as far as performance vs price is Nimble and I am glad we purchased Tintri.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
Primarily looked at Nimble, but also considered SolidFire and Tegile.
What other advice do I have?
Look at where datacenters and virtualization are going. Many people consider "Software Defined" as simply a buzzword, but the truth is software is driving the datacenter. With Tintri you can save on compute resources by taking advantage of their VM-aware Storage. I honestly stumbled upon Tintri when I was looking into VVOLs with vSphere 6.0 and our NetApp. After lots of research it was apparent that VVOLs is not ready for prime-time and Tintri does A LOT more than what VVOLs can accomplish. Plus it was clear that VMware was simply taking the direction that Tintri already had a solution to. I couldn't be happier with the decision we made to invest in Tintri and our customers are much happier too.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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Head of I.T. with 51-200 employees
We needed to move out of the space of just having network storage and move into the space of having high performance and flexible network storage.
What is most valuable?
The administrative interface is excellent. Being able to see exactly what is happening within our VM network takes the guess work out of troubleshooting and makes management tasks an absolute breeze.
How has it helped my organization?
Implementing Tintri gave an immediate speed boost to our computer systems. This was very welcome to the staff because their desktop computers responded quicker, reports ran faster, and user satisfaction hit an all time high.
This transitioned our I.T. systems from being a 'burden' to being a trusted and dependable source of information.
For how long have I used the solution?
1.5 years
What was my experience with deployment of the solution?
No - very fast deployment and Tintri's knowledgeable engineers helped us get our units connected and running in less than one hour.
This is a really well thought through product.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
Out of the six controllers we have deployed one card failed after a week. The affected system did not degrade in performance in any way and Tintri had a replacement controller out to me for a rapid changeout. I can not speak highly enough of how well the guys tackled the situation and the whole experience had zero impact on our regular computer operations.
Tintri's own OS upgrades are also super stable and applying firmware updates is a total non-event.
How are customer service and technical support?
Customer Service:
In my view Tintri's customer service is excellent, I am in regular contact with various folks throughout their organisation even though we have not had one problem.
Technical Support:Very good. Tintri seems to attract high quality and experienced talent to their team. They are also always available whenever we reach out.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
Yes, our network storage was on Netapp / IBM N series. It was a great system when we first implemented our virtualised environment back in 2007, however the performance of the system and design ethos did not suit the workload we wanted to put to it. For us, business evolved and system user demands increased. We needed to move out of the space of just having network storage and move into the space of having high performance and flexible network storage.
How was the initial setup?
As I indicated earlier the initial setup was very straight forward. Tintri have a setup guide that gives admin's a planning checklist to ensure that your install works right from the get go.
What about the implementation team?
In-house with support from Tintri's own systems engineers.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
Yes, we ran an evaluation and virtual beauty parade of Tegile, Netapp, HP, Hitachi, Dell, EMC. Tintri was the clear winner for us.
What other advice do I have?
For anyone looking at buying enterprise storage, take a good look at the market place, there are a lot of options out there. I did the same and found that Tintri was a clear leader in the space and would give me the performance and benefits I was looking for.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
System Engineer Werkplekken at a university with 1,001-5,000 employees
Good for VDI environments or if you need to provide high-end VMWare solutions.
Pros and Cons
- "It is a set and forget environment with a very good tooling to view performance and delivers the IOPS we need for our VDI environment."
- "Speed of our VDI machines. We have a very high log in and log out ratio and machines are being refreshed instantly so we have a constant boot storm on our storage."
How has it helped my organization?
When implementing our VDI environment we noticed that we were unable to push out the IOPS for the VDI's to achieve the performance we wanted to. With Tintri we are able to deliver good performing VDI desktops.
What is most valuable?
The fact that it is very easy to set up and delivers. It is a set and forget environment with a very good tooling to view performance and delivers the IOPS we need for our VDI environment.
What needs improvement?
Speed of our VDI machines. We have a very high log in and log out ratio and machines are being refreshed instantly so we have a constant boot storm on our storage. Tintri can easily put up the effort then run this smoothly.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
Not until now.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
Not until now. Because we don't have a full flash array but a hybrid we expected to not have a 100% flash hit ratio but to this day we never got below 100% hit ratio of Flash.
How are customer service and technical support?
Customer Service:
Perfect. Normally they are aware of an issue earlier than we are. And even if they don't support something they still put in the effort to help us
Technical Support:
Very high.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
Yes, we used diferent kinds of storages but they were unable to deliver the IOPS we needed.
How was the initial setup?
Straightforward. As said, within 45 minutes from unboxing to production.
What about the implementation team?
Through a vendor team. Other than getting the Tintri out of the box it was very easy.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
Speed of our VDI machines. We have a very high log in and log out ratio and machines are being refreshed instantly so we have a constant boot storm on our storage.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
Yes, we tried multiple storage vendors but at that time Tintri was our best option for what we needed to achieve. They also provided us with a demo model.
What other advice do I have?
I'd say if you are going for VDI environments or need to provide high end VMWare solutions make sure to try Tintri. If you tried it and used it you wont go back to anything else.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Network Engineer at a healthcare company with 501-1,000 employees
We were able to increase productivity by moving away from LUNs and simplifying management of our backend storage.
What is most valuable?
- Dedupe
- VAAI
- The deep dive analysis of performance for each VM
How has it helped my organization?
We were able to increase productivity of our small team by moving away from LUNs and simplifying management of our backend storage.
What needs improvement?
Integration of all the interfaces:
- For each Tintri
- For the global centre management
- Analytics
The interfaces are all great, but if all the functionality were built into one global centre, this would make the interface a single pane.
For how long have I used the solution?
We have been using this solution for nearly two years
What was my experience with deployment of the solution?
There were no issues with deployment.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
There were no issues with stability.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
Scaling requires the purchase of a new VMstore.
How are customer service and technical support?
Customer Service:
Customer service is excellent. Any time we needed questions answered or help, our service team was quick to respond and they were very knowledgeable.
Technical Support:Technical support is excellent. We performed an upgrade which caused an alert to be sent to our team. By the time we finished reading the alert, someone from Tintri was already calling us to explain the issue. In this specific case, it was an erroneous alert due to filling a temp folder during the upgrade process.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
We were using a hyper-converged solution that wasn't scaling with our limited budget and space.
How was the initial setup?
The setup was straightforward and quick to deploy. It took under an hour from racking to being available for use.
What about the implementation team?
We deployed the solution in-house.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
Scope your needs properly and buy the right model. Leverage your pre-sales team for help.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
We evaluated Nimble and Nutanix.
What other advice do I have?
- Test the sales pitch
- Do a PoC
- Push the box to the limits of your environment and see for yourself
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
IT Systems Manager at a insurance company with 501-1,000 employees
Some of the most valuable features we've found are the thin provisioning, deduplication, and VMware View/VDI support.
What is most valuable?
Some of the most valuable features we've found are the thin provisioning, deduplication, and VMware View/VDI support.
How has it helped my organization?
We purchased the T540 for our VMware View/VDI deployment. When we chose Tintri, it was the only product to offload the VDI cloning to the array. This reduced the provision by 8-15 minutes depending on which system we were on. Other systems now have this same feature, but the Tintri is rock solid.
What needs improvement?
We have tested the replication piece – it actually works well, but is expensive based on our limited needs – if we were utilizing the Tintri for more of our VM workload it may be more cost effective.
For how long have I used the solution?
I've used it for two years.
What was my experience with deployment of the solution?
Installation was maybe an hour including racking the equipment and setup. It's one of the simplest SANs I have touched. We have been eliminating new arrays all of 2015 and still, Tintri is the easiest to configure.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
We encountered no issues with stability.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
We currently have about 240TB of data and add about 60TB a year. Ideally, we prefer to have a single array to manage for our primary workload. Our VDI environment is stored separately and Tintri more than fits the need of this environment.
How are customer service and technical support?
Customer Service:
Customer service is great to work with.
Technical Support:Technical support has been excellent. We did a beta test of the T850. This involved us in weekly conference calls with their engineering dept. They are extremely knowledgeable and great to work with.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
We were utilizing an EMC VNX which worked well for our day to day workloads, but was not optimized for VDI. That was what lead us to the Tintri solution in 2013.
How was the initial setup?
It had the simplest setup of any SAN I've worked with.
What about the implementation team?
For the first T540, the Tintri engineer came up and walked us through the setup. I think this was mostly a good will gesture and to meet us in person. The second one my team did themselves. We had both communicating with the VMware environment in less than an hour.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
I think for the money, Tintri is a great solution.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
We looked at other solutions. When we purchased this, it was the only solution offering the features we needed.
What other advice do I have?
Buy it.
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Head of IT at a tech services company with 1,001-5,000 employees
The most important features to us are its low latency, the high performance, and the per-VM QoS.
What is most valuable?
There are several features we find valuable, but the most important to us are its low latency, the high performance, and the per-VM QoS.
How has it helped my organization?
With VMstore, we're able to perform better and have better insight into our data storage infrastructure.
What needs improvement?
It lacks deduplication, and dedupe on all data is something that would be a big improvement that we need.
For how long have I used the solution?
We've used it for one year.
What was my experience with deployment of the solution?
We didn't encounter any issues with deployment.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
It's been very stable for us.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
We've been able to scale without any problems.
How are customer service and technical support?
Customer Service:
10/10
Technical Support:10/10
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
We switched to VMstore get better performance, VM-aware storage, and improved QoS.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup was straightforward.
What about the implementation team?
We implemented it with our in-house team.
What was our ROI?
We anticipate that our ROI will be around three years.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
Before choosing Tintri, we evaluated solutions from Nimble Storage and Equalogic.
What other advice do I have?
I think this is a perfect product if you need a VM-aware storage solution. As a service provider we love the possibility to look at the virtual environment from the storage perspective, to see which VMs are using IOPS/capacity and to analyze where the latency is produced (host/network/storage). With the new QOS features we can guarantee to meet customer demands and we don’t have to use different storage platforms for different performance alternatives. For example; if the customer wants spinning-SATA-RAID5 performance we can set a limit on the IOPS and if the customer wants Hybrid-SSD-spinning we can guarantee 5000 IOPS.
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Technical Team Lead - Environments Team with 501-1,000 employees
The most valuable features for us are the reliability and it's ease of use.
What is most valuable?
The most valuable features for us are the reliability and it's ease of use.
How has it helped my organization?
It's the most stable storage unit since the much more expensive HP 3PAR unit was released.
For how long have I used the solution?
Our first unit – the T540 - was bought at the beginning of 2012.
What was my experience with deployment of the solution?
We encountered no issues with deployment.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
There were stability issues only when we exceeded the operational limitations. We found that the number of running VM’s advertised per device is not consistent with what we experience due to the workload each of our VM’s generates.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
We encountered no issues with scalability.
How are customer service and technical support?
Customer Service:
The customer service is very good. We have active interactions with the technical support and development teams
Technical support has been excellent so far.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
We switched because we encountered reliability problems. The cost of scaling out the solution to overcome these issues was excessive.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup was extremely simple.
What about the implementation team?
The implementation was done in-house.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
We evaluated Nutanix.
What other advice do I have?
Just give it a try, even via POC, to see how much simpler it is to implement and how well it performs.
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Well our backups are a mess and we need something that will take care of everything. We use Symantec and Veeam together at the moment. I love Veeam but hate Symantec which does our Exchange environment. Also we use a Data Domain for our storage which does not restore the fastest either. Rubrik offers an appliance that contains everything and is easily scalable. They offer many features including Cloud Backup (I know Veeam does too). The overall solution seems sound and they are moving towards physical backup too.