Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics vs Talend Data Management Platform comparison

Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics vs. Talend Data Management Platform

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Pentaho Data Integration an...

Ranking in Data Integration

30th

Average Rating

8.0

Reviews Sentiment

5.8

Number of Reviews

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Talend Data Management Plat...

Ranking in Data Integration

20th

Average Rating

8.2

Reviews Sentiment

7.1

Number of Reviews

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Mindshare comparison

As of November 2024, in the Data Integration category, the mindshare of Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics is 1.4%, up from 0.5% compared to the previous year. The mindshare of Talend Data Management Platform is 1.6%, up from 1.3% compared to the previous year. It is calculated based on PeerSpot user engagement data.

Data Integration

Q&A Highlights

RajneeshShukla

Solution Architect at a tech vendor with 10,001+ employees

Sep 09, 2021

Which ETL tool would you recommend to populate data from OLTP to OLAP?

We have experiences only in Pentaho Data Integrator (open source competitor of the Oracle Data Integrator). But OLAP exporting wasn't in our scope until now.

Low-code makes development faster than with Python, but there were caching issues

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Ryan Ferdon

Senior Data Engineer at Burgiss

If you're working with a larger data set, I'm not so sure it would be the best solution. The larger things got the slower it was. It was kind of buggy sometimes. And when we ran the flow, it didn't go from a perceived start to end, node by node. Everything kicked off at once. That meant there were times when it would get ahead of itself and a job would fail. That was not because the job was wrong, but because Pentaho decided to go at everything at once, and something would process before it was supposed to. There were nodes you could add to make sure that, before this node kicks off, all these others have processed, but it was a bit tedious. There were also caching issues, and we had to write code to clear the cache every time we opened the program, because the cache would fill up and it wouldn't run. I don't know how hard that would be for them to fix, or if it was fixed in version 10. Also, the UI is a bit outdated, but I'm more of a fan of function over how something looks. One other thing that would have helped with Pentaho was documentation and support on the internet: how to do things, how to set up. I think there are some sites on how to install it, and Pentaho does have a help repository, but it wasn't always the most useful.

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Srinivas Mamidipalli

Senior Technical Manager at YASH Technologies

Built for everything and packed with features but there are some monitoring limitations

Our company uses the solution to provide data integration services for customers. Most of our implementations are on-premises for large or enterprise-level customers. We have six users with experience in both the local studio and the enterprise versions. The solution can run on any machine and…

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Quotes from Members

We asked business professionals to review the solutions they use. Here are some excerpts of what they said:

Pros

"I can create faster instructions than writing with SQL or code. Also, I am able to do some background control of the data process with this tool. Therefore, I use it as an ELT tool. I have a station area where I can work with all the information that I have in my production databases, then I can work with the data that I created."

"The solution offers features for data integration and migration. Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics allows the integration of multiple data sources into one. The product is user-friendly and intuitive to use for almost any business."

"One of the valuable features is the ability to use PL/SQL statements inside the data transformations and jobs."

"It makes it pretty simple to do some fairly complicated things. Both I and some of our other BI developers have made stabs at using, for example, SQL Server Integration Services, and we found them a little bit frustrating compared to Data Integration. So, its ease of use is right up there."

"Lumada has allowed us to interact with our employees more effectively and compensate them properly. One of the cool things is that we use it to generate commissions for our salespeople and bonuses for our warehouse people. It allows us to get information out to them in a timely fashion. We can also see where they're at and how they're doing."

"I can use Python, which is open-source, and I can run other scripts, including Linux scripts. It's user-friendly for running any object-based language. That's a very important feature because we live in a world of open-source."

"It's very simple compared to other products out there."

"It is easy to use, install, and start working with."

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"The most valuable feature is the data loading and scripting language"

"The tool was mainly used for ETL processes to apply governance rules on data."

"I think Talend is one of the easiest tools for faster implementation compared to other tools."

"The solution is very user-friendly and easy to understand."

"The basic tools are easy to pick up and understand."

"I like everything about this product, but the biggest thing is the ease of use."

"The most valuable feature is integration."

"They're very competitive in terms of performance, which is a good selling point. It has very rich features. It provides a very rich feature set in the application."

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Cons

"Its basic functionality doesn't need a whole lot of change. There could be some improvement in the consistency of the behavior of different transformation steps. The software did start as open-source and a lot of the fundamental, everyday transformation steps that you use when building ETL jobs were developed by different people. It is not a seamless paradigm. A table input step has a different way of thinking than a data merge step."

"One thing that I don't like, just a little, is the backward compatibility."

"The support for the Enterprise Edition is okay, but what they have done in the last three or four years is move more and more things to that edition. The result is that they are breaking the Community Edition. That's what our impression is."

"I have been facing some difficulties when working with large datasets. It seems that when there is a large amount of data, I experience memory errors."

"The testing and quality could really improve. Every time that there is a major release, we are very nervous about what is going to get broken. We have had a lot of experience with that, as even the latest one was broken. Some basic things get broken. That doesn't look good for Hitachi at all. If there is one place I would advise them to spend some money and do some effort, it is with the quality. It is not that hard to start putting in some unit tests so basic things don't get broken when they do a new release. That just looks horrible, especially for an organization like Hitachi."

"I would like to see improvement when it comes to integrating structured data with text data or anything that is unstructured. Sometimes we get all kinds of different files that we need to integrate into the warehouse."

"In the Community edition, it would be nice to have more modules that allow you to code directly within the application. It could have R or Python completely integrated into it, but this could also be because I'm using an older version."

"The web interface is rusty, and the biggest problem with Pentaho is debugging and troubleshooting. It isn't easy to build the pipeline incrementally. At least in our case, it's hard to find a way to execute step by step in the debugging mode."

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"I would like to sync a project and do an upload from that current version, and then from GitLab, be able to download the latest one."

"They lack in memory capacity."

"We'd like to see more connectors it the future."

"Once you get past the basic tools, it gets pretty complicated."

"I've had some issues with bugs causing crashes, especially when making changes to the system or with the monthly upgrades to Studio they've introduced."

"Performance and speed could be improved."

"The biggest challenge with Talend was its performance."

"The stability is good, but the performance is slower when I work on a huge amount of data."

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Pricing and Cost Advice

"There is a good open source option (Community Edition)."

"You don't need the Enterprise Edition, you can go with the Community Edition. That way you can use it for free and, for free, it's a pretty good tool to use."

"The solution reduced our ETL development time by a lot because a whole project used to take about a month to get done previously. After having Lumada, it took just a week. For a big company in Brazil, it saves a team at least $10,000 a month."

"You need to go through the paid version to have Hitachi Lumada specialized support. However, if you are using the free version, then you will have only the community support. You will depend on the releases from Hitachi to solve some problem or questions that you have, such as bug fixes. You will need to wait for the newest versions or releases to solve these types of problems."

"We did a two or three-year deal the last time we did it. As compared to other solutions, at least so far in our experience, it has been very affordable. The licensing is by component. So, you need to make sure you only license the components that you really intend to use. I am not sure if we have relicensed after the Hitachi acquisition, but previously, multi-year renewals resulted in a good discount. I'm not sure if this is still the case. We've had the full suite for a lot of years, and there is just the initial cost. I am not aware of any additional costs."

"Sometimes we provide the licenses or the customer can procure their own licenses. Previously, we had an enterprise license. Currently, we are on a community license as this is adequate for our needs."

"I primarily work on the Community Version, which is available to use free of charge."

"I mostly used the open-source version. I didn't work with a license."

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"The price is on a per-user basis. It's a little more expensive than other tools. There aren't any additional costs beyond the standard licensing fee."

"The licensing cost is about 40,000 Euros a year."

"The price of the Talend Data Management Platform is reasonable. The other competing solutions are priced high. Gartner Magic Quadrant identified other solutions, such as Informatica, that are far more expensive."

"The pricing is a little higher than what I had expected, but it's comparable with I-PASS competitors."

"License renewal is on a yearly basis."

"The tool is cheap."

"The solution's pricing is very reasonable and half the cost of Informatica."

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Answers from the Community

RajneeshShukla

Solution Architect at a tech vendor with 10,001+ employees

Sep 9, 2021

Which ETL tool would you recommend to populate data from OLTP to OLAP?

There are two products I know about * TimeXtender : Microsoft based, Transformation logic is quiet good and can easily be extended with T-SQL , Has a semantic layer that generates metat data for cubes . price approx 40K$, works with tables . Attunity (Bought by Qlik) : technology agnostic , nice web interface , expensive > 100K€. Works with transaction logs There are many other pure ETL ...

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Stefan Schäfer

CEO / Owner with 51-200 employees

Apr 6, 2020

We usually use Talend. Look here: https://community.talend.com/t5/Design-and-Development/The-way-from-OLTP-to-OLAP/td-p/116719

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RajneeshShukla

Solution Architect at a tech vendor with 10,001+ employees

Apr 7, 2020

Thanks Stefan !!! May I know if Talend is opensource /free ? It is available in all 3 editions - basic , standard end enterprise? it is capable to read data from all heterogeneous system like various types of data bases and files etc..?

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Top Industries

By visitors reading reviews

Financial Services Firm

23%

Computer Software Company

14%

Government

Comms Service Provider

Computer Software Company

20%

Financial Services Firm

17%

Manufacturing Company

Government

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Questions from the Community

Which ETL tool would you recommend to populate data from OLTP to OLAP?

Hi Rajneesh, yes here is the feature comparison between the community and enterprise edition : https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/pdf/brochure/leverage-open-source-benefits-with-assurance-of-hita...

What do you think can be improved with Hitachi Lumada Data Integrations?

In my opinion, the reporting side of this tool needs serious improvements. In my previous company, we worked with Hitachi Lumada Data Integration and while it does a good job for what it’s worth, ...

What do you use Hitachi Lumada Data Integrations for most frequently?

My company has used this product to transform data from databases, CSV files, and flat files. It really does a good job. We were most satisfied with the results in terms of how many people could us...

What do you like most about Talend Data Management Platform?

We can develop our own code if we do not see the functionality we need.

What is your experience regarding pricing and costs for Talend Data Management Platform?

Talend was an open-source tool, so there were no fees associated with it.

What needs improvement with Talend Data Management Platform?

The biggest challenge with Talend was its performance. Sometimes data cleaning from the data warehouse was very slow, and we had to restart the server to enhance performance.

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Also Known As

Hitachi Lumada Data Integration, Kettle, Pentaho Data Integration

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Overview

Pentaho Data Integration stands as a versatile platform designed to cater to the data integration and analytics needs of organizations, regardless of their size. This powerful solution is the go-to choice for businesses seeking to seamlessly integrate data from diverse sources, including databases, files, and applications. Pentaho Data Integration facilitates the essential tasks of cleaning and transforming data, ensuring it's primed for meaningful analysis. With a wide array of tools for data mining, machine learning, and statistical analysis, Pentaho Data Integration empowers organizations to glean valuable insights from their data. What sets Pentaho Data Integration apart is its maturity and a vibrant community of users and developers, making it a reliable and cost-effective option. Pentaho Data Integration offers a range of features, including a comprehensive ETL toolkit, data cleaning and transformation capabilities, robust data analysis tools, and seamless deployment options for data integration and analytics solutions, making it a go-to solution for organizations seeking to harness the power of their data.

Talend offers robust data integration in an open and scalable architecture to maximize its value to your business. Simple, graphical tools and wizards get you up and running quickly with native code generation that streamlines development.

Sample Customers

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Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics vs. Talend Data Management Platform