Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics vs webMethods.io comparison

Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics vs. webMethods.io

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8.0

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Data Integration (30th)

webMethods.io

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8.0

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Business-to-Business Middleware (4th), Enterprise Service Bus (ESB) (3rd), Managed File Transfer (MFT) (10th), API Management (10th), Cloud Data Integration (6th), Integration Platform as a Service (iPaaS) (4th)

Featured Reviews

Eric Smets

System Engineer at a tech services company with 11-50 employees

Sep 4, 2022

Enterprise Edition pricing and reduced Community Edition functionality are making us look elsewhere

I would like to see better support from one version to the next, and all the more so if there are third-party elements that you are using. That's one of the differences between the Community Edition and the Enterprise Edition. In addition to better integration with third-party tools, what we have seen is that some of the tools just break from one version to the next and aren't supported anymore in the Community Edition. What is behind that is not really clear to us, but the result is that we can't migrate, or we have to migrate to other parts. That's the most inconvenient part of the tool. We need to test to see if all our third-party plugins are still available in a new version. That's one of the reasons we decided we would move from the tool to the completely open-source version for the ETL part. That's one of the results of the migration hassle we have had every time. The support for the Enterprise Edition is okay, but what they have done in the last three or four years is move more and more things to that edition. The result is that they are breaking the Community Edition. That's what our impression is. The Enterprise Edition is okay, and there is a clear path for it. You will not use a lot of external plugins with it because, with every new version, a lot of the most popular plugins are transferred to the Enterprise Edition. But the Community Edition is almost not supported anymore. You shouldn't start in the Community Edition because, really early on, you will have to move to the Enterprise Edition. Before, you could live with and use the Community Edition for a longer time.

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reviewer1979073

Integration Developer at a computer software company with 51-200 employees

Oct 3, 2022

Great support, good adaptors and easy to use

The most important thing when using it is that there is a really good community from the producers, Software AG, and the Empower platform, where you can find almost every kind of error or problem that you face. You can find a solution right there in the community. There is also typical support where you can create a ticket if you are not able to find the issue on your own. If it's something new, then they will approach you and help you in resolving it. The best features are these adapters. Software AG developed many different adapters for the usual databases, et cetera. I was not using Salesforce much. However, it's really handy that you have an adapter for these popular platforms. It's just plug-and-play. When it comes to the user interface, I'm already really used to it. I cannot say anything against it. For me, it's easy to use. When there is some issue or bug, they work on the development of that. And then, in the next release, they just fix it. I had a few situations when I faced some issues, and then I had to report them. Within the next three weeks, typically, it just gets fixed.

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Pros

"This solution allows us to create pipelines using a minimal amount of custom coding."

"Lumada has allowed us to interact with our employees more effectively and compensate them properly. One of the cool things is that we use it to generate commissions for our salespeople and bonuses for our warehouse people. It allows us to get information out to them in a timely fashion. We can also see where they're at and how they're doing."

"Provides a good open source option."

"The abstraction is quite good."

"Flexible deployment, in any environment, is very important to us. That is the key reason why we ended up with these tools. Because we have a very highly secure environment, we must be able to install it in multiple environments on multiple different servers. The fact that we could use the same tool in all our environments, on-prem and in the cloud, was very important to us."

"The fact that it's a low-code solution is valuable. It's good for more junior people who may not be as experienced with programming."

"The way it has improved our product is by giving our users the ability to do ad hoc reports, which is very important to our users. We can do predictive analysis on trends coming in for contracts, which is what our product does. The product helps users decide which way to go based on the predictive analysis done by Pentaho. Pentaho is not doing predictions, but reporting on the predictions that our product is doing. This is a big part of our product."

"One of the most valuable features is the ability to create many API integrations. I'm always working with advertising agents and using Facebook and Instagram to do campaigns. We use Pentaho to get the results from these campaigns and to create dashboards to analyze the results."

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"We needed a tool that was able to orchestrate and help us configure our APIs so that we could maintain and see the heartbeat, traffic, trends, etc."

"The connectivity that the tool provides, along with the functionalities needed for our company's business, are some of the beneficial aspects of the product."

"There were no complexities involved in the setup phase...The product is able to meet my company's API protection needs."

"webMethods platform is used to build an EAI platform, enabling communication between many internal systems and third-party operators."

"webMethods API Portal is overall very valuable. It is now a comprehensive API catalogue that serves various purposes, including API assessment and evaluation."

"It is a very stable product."

"The performance is good."

"Oracle's self-service capabilities, of which we make extensive use, is the most valuable feature."

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Cons

"It could be better integrated with programming languages, like Python and R. Right now, if I want to run a Python code on one of my ETLs, it is a bit difficult to do. It would be great if we have some modules where we could code directly in a Python language. We don't really have a way to run Python code natively."

"Lumada could have more native connectors with other vendors, such as Google BigQuery, Microsoft OneDrive, Jira systems, and Facebook or Instagram. We would like to gather data from modern platforms using Lumada, which is a better approach. As a comparison, if you open Power BI to retrieve data, then you can get data from many vendors with cloud-native connectors, such as Azure, AWS, Google BigQuery, and Athena Redshift. Lumada should have more native connectors to help us and facilitate our job in gathering information from these new modern infrastructures and tools."

"I would like to see improvements made for real-time data processing."

"In terms of the flexibility to deploy in any environment, such as on-premise or in the cloud, we can do the cloud deployment only through virtual machines. We might also be able to work on different environments through Docker or Kubernetes, but we don't have an Azure app or an AWS app for easy deployment to the cloud. We can only do it through virtual machines, which is a problem, but we can manage it. We also work with Databricks because it works with Spark. We can work with clustered servers, and we can easily do the deployment in the cloud. With a right-click, we can deploy Databricks through the app on AWS or Azure cloud."

"As far as I remember, not all connectors worked very well. They can add more connectors and more drivers to the process to integrate with more flows."

"If you're working with a larger data set, I'm not so sure it would be the best solution. The larger things got the slower it was."

"There is not a data quality or MDM solution in the Pentaho DI suite."

"I have been facing some difficulties when working with large datasets. It seems that when there is a large amount of data, I experience memory errors."

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"The installation process should be simplified for first time users and be made more user-friendly."

"The high price of the product is an area of concern where improvements are required."

"With respect to the API gateway, the runtime component, the stability after a new release is something that can be improved."

"The market webMethods Integration Server falls under is a very crowded market, so for the product to stand out, Software AG would need to get traction in the open source community by releasing a new version or a base version and open source it, so people can create new custom components and add it to the portfolio."

"The solution should include REST API calls."

"webMethods.io needs to incorporate ChatGPT to enhance user experience. It can offer a customized user experience."

"It would be nice if they had a change management system offering. We built our own deployer application because the one built into webMethods couldn't enforce change management rules. Integration into a change management system, along with the version control system, would be a good offering; it's something that they're lacking."

"I would like to have a dashboard where I can see all of the communication between components and the configuration."

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Pricing and Cost Advice

"I believe the pricing of the solution is more affordable than the competitors"

"We are using the Community Edition. We have been trying to use and sell the Enterprise version, but that hasn't been possible due to the budget required for it."

"There was a cost analysis done and Pentaho did favorably in terms of cost."

"For most development tasks, the Enterprise edition should be sufficient. It depends on the type of support that you require for your production environment."

"The solution reduced our ETL development time by a lot because a whole project used to take about a month to get done previously. After having Lumada, it took just a week. For a big company in Brazil, it saves a team at least $10,000 a month."

"I primarily work on the Community Version, which is available to use free of charge."

"There is a good open source option (Community Edition)."

"Sometimes we provide the licenses or the customer can procure their own licenses. Previously, we had an enterprise license. Currently, we are on a community license as this is adequate for our needs."

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"webMethods.io Integration's pricing is high and has yearly subscription costs."

"The price is high and I give it a five out of ten."

"I am not involved in the licensing side of things."

"Sometimes we don't have a very clear idea what the licensing will entail at first, because it can be very customizable. On one hand, this can be a good thing, because it can be tailored to a specific customer's needs. But on the other hand it can also be an issue when some customer asks, "What's the cost?" and we can't yet give them an accurate answer."

"webMethods Integration Server is expensive, and there's no fixed price on it because it has a point pricing model. You can negotiate, which makes it interesting."

"webMethods.io is expensive. We have multiple components, and you need to pay for each of them."

"Pricing is the number-one downfall. It's too expensive. They could make more money by dropping the price in half and getting more customers. It's the best product there is, but it's too expensive."

"I would like to see better pricing for the license."

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Top Industries

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Financial Services Firm

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Computer Software Company

14%

Government

Educational Organization

Financial Services Firm

14%

Computer Software Company

13%

Manufacturing Company

12%

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Questions from the Community

Which ETL tool would you recommend to populate data from OLTP to OLAP?

Hi Rajneesh, yes here is the feature comparison between the community and enterprise edition : https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/pdf/brochure/leverage-open-source-benefits-with-assurance-of-hita...

What do you think can be improved with Hitachi Lumada Data Integrations?

In my opinion, the reporting side of this tool needs serious improvements. In my previous company, we worked with Hitachi Lumada Data Integration and while it does a good job for what it’s worth, ...

What do you use Hitachi Lumada Data Integrations for most frequently?

My company has used this product to transform data from databases, CSV files, and flat files. It really does a good job. We were most satisfied with the results in terms of how many people could us...

What do you like most about Built.io Flow?

The tool helps us to streamline data integration. Its BPM is very strong and powerful. The solution helps us manage digital transformation.

What is your experience regarding pricing and costs for Built.io Flow?

webMethods.io is expensive. We have multiple components, and you need to pay for each of them.

What needs improvement with Built.io Flow?

webMethods.io needs to incorporate ChatGPT to enhance user experience. It can offer a customized user experience.

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Also Known As

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Built.io Flow, webMethods Integration Server, webMethods Trading Networks, webMethods ActiveTransfer, webMethods.io API

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Overview

Pentaho Data Integration stands as a versatile platform designed to cater to the data integration and analytics needs of organizations, regardless of their size. This powerful solution is the go-to choice for businesses seeking to seamlessly integrate data from diverse sources, including databases, files, and applications. Pentaho Data Integration facilitates the essential tasks of cleaning and transforming data, ensuring it's primed for meaningful analysis. With a wide array of tools for data mining, machine learning, and statistical analysis, Pentaho Data Integration empowers organizations to glean valuable insights from their data. What sets Pentaho Data Integration apart is its maturity and a vibrant community of users and developers, making it a reliable and cost-effective option. Pentaho Data Integration offers a range of features, including a comprehensive ETL toolkit, data cleaning and transformation capabilities, robust data analysis tools, and seamless deployment options for data integration and analytics solutions, making it a go-to solution for organizations seeking to harness the power of their data.

webMethods.io Integration is a powerful integration platform as a service (iPaaS) that provides a combination of capabilities offered by ESBs, data integration systems, API management tools, and B2B gateways.

Sample Customers

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Cisco, Agralogics, Dreamforce, Cables & Sensors, Sacramento Kings

Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics vs. webMethods.io