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Bernd Stroehle. - PeerSpot reviewer
Enterprise Architect at KosaKya
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Collects the resources within the IT system that reports the use of different resources, file system resources, storage resources, and so on
Pros and Cons
  • "The most important feature is the creation of folders. It's a really great feature because you can organize the process with naming conventions."
  • "It should support other schedulers that aren't IBM products."

What is our primary use case?

We use it at the Bank for the portfolio management system. In 2001 and 2003 I created all these jobs for the portfolio management system for collecting data from the backend system.

From 2015 I use it as the tool that collects the resources within the IT system that reports the use of different resources, file system resources, storage resources, and so on.

What is most valuable?

The most important feature is the creation of folders. It's a really great feature because you can organize the process with naming conventions. 

What needs improvement?

Other solutions like Control-M are better than this solution. IBM should have better integration with the cloud. 

It should support other schedulers that aren't IBM products. 

For how long have I used the solution?

We have been using IBM Workload Automation since 2015. 

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What do I think about the stability of the solution?

It's very, very stable. The support is quite good. I was totally astonished about the life cycle of this IBM product because a lot of colleagues told me that Control-M is the best scheduler but I have found that it's not true. IBM does a really good job with its product.

How are customer service and support?

It's better than the solution that Control-M offers. Within Deutsche bank they are using Control-M for the investment banking and they are using different timezones, for every console you need a separate installation with Control-M. With IBM, it's not necessary. 

IBM uses also has different plan options, from monthly plans to weekly plans. This is a problem with Control-M. It makes maintenance very, very costly because you have to configure different environments for different timezones.

How was the initial setup?

The scheduler is a little bit complex. They have different concepts, they use event mechanisms for their workforce. 

With Control-M you have a lot of server components. In the meantime, you can install them with Kubernetes as well which is a big improvement.

What other advice do I have?

I would definitely recommend this product. It's an interesting option in terms of schedulers. 

I would rate it an eight out of ten.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

On-premises
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it_user545040 - PeerSpot reviewer
OPTUM Tivoli/TWS Technical Lead at a healthcare company with 10,001+ employees
Real User
Notifies us when a job does not complete successfully. It is complex to use.

What is most valuable?

  • Alerting on ABENDS: When a job abnormally ends (ABENDS), the solution notifies us when the job did not complete successfully. This is a nice feature for job streams that require successful completion of one job before it moves on to another. It’s still “reactionary” in nature, but allows us to run a job stream again. This occurs, in some cases, before the end users of our data services know there’s a problem.
  • When changing a cycling ID, we only have to change it once.
  • Moving jobs from Dev to Prod only takes a text file script, which is straightforward.

How has it helped my organization?

It has over complicated things.

What needs improvement?

  • It is complex to use
  • Lacks scalability
  • It is difficult to set up jobs to run
  • We need to be able to elevate privileges like Task Scheduler

With Windows Server 2012, there is a setting for User Access Control. UAC is a security feature that prompts the user, and even administrators, when running a job that requires a higher elevation because of its interaction with the Operating System.

When you’re trying to automate tasks and run them in the background, this prompt still comes up and asks if it’s OK to raise the privilege level. That hangs the job.

When running the solution, there’s no way to get around that prompt. Any job that requires that elevated privilege sits and waits for the user to answer it.

With Windows Task Scheduler, there is a check box in the Scheduled Task that says “Run with Highest Privilege”. If that’s checked, then it automatically bypasses the UAC prompt, and completes successfully.

The only other way to get around that is to lower the UAC restriction on the server, making it more vulnerable to malicious code.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using this solution since November, 2010.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

We have not have issues with stability.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

We had to write a scripted solution to be able to change jobs behind the scenes. The solution runs with a specific command fed into it. We fed it this script: “CSCRIPT

How are customer service and technical support?

Our company has our own internal support.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We used Windows Task Scheduler. We switched because the new SSIS servers were going to be managed servers.

How was the initial setup?

The setup was very complex. Our environment is very large. Setting up Workload Automation on our set of servers required the following:

  • Setting up the agent
  • Setting up the notification lists
  • Filling out various forms for job stream scheduling. (It just goes on from there.)

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

This was the new corporate standard and we were not given a choice.

What other advice do I have?

Look into ALL options. Verify that you can run your application servers with UAC turned to "do not prompt when using an admin account".

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it_user498408 - PeerSpot reviewer
System Engineer, Infrastructure at a media company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Real User
It has two CLIs to help manage items in the active plan & database. This is useful for custom scripts automating certain tasks.

Valuable Features

TWS has two command line interfaces to help manage items in the active plan and database. This allows you to create custom scripts to make mass updates to job definitions in the plan\database. You can even schedule these custom scripts to make the updates at a later time (e.g., holding a set of jobs prior to a planned outage and releasing after). It also has an event processor that lets you define custom rules based on certain events (e.g., when a job fails, when a job hasn’t finished within a certain time or within 30 minutes of its predecessor, when a file is available, when a job is stuck, etc.).

Improvements to My Organization

Aside from basic scheduling features and Windows/Unix job types, this product gives us a lot of options to integrate with other systems:

  • Custom plug-ins (SAP, DataStage, PeopleSoft, Cognos)
  • Database & integration job types (Oracle, MS SQL, Web Services, J2EE)
  • File transfer and remote command job types

It is a great way to centralize your enterprise workload to provide better visibility to support groups and better cohesion between applications. Mobile app features are also available to empower users to monitor\manage their workload on the go.

Room for Improvement

The web UI is a bit cumbersome in terms of navigation, although it seems some improvements were made on the most recent release, v9.3. Also, scheduling is driven based off of a Symphony file, which is a flat file that outlines scheduled work for the day and its progress. This file is prone to corruption during networking/hardware issues. TWS also has a daily refresh process that refreshes the Symphony file each day. Any permanent changes to the TWS network are dependent on this process.

Time zone management can also use some improvements. We have to schedule creatively to account for the hard-coded plan start/end times with other time zones. Ideally, it would be a seamless effort.

Use of Solution

I have used it for four years.

Stability Issues

None; overall the product is very stable, but can give you odd results if the environment is unstable (hardware\network issues). Once the environment issues are resolved and job scheduling has resumed, you might still experience strange behavior with dependency resolution and cyclic job functionality, which typically clears up with the next daily refresh.

Scalability Issues

None; we’ve had no issues with scalability other than time zone management, which requires some creative scheduling scenarios to account for the hard-coded plan start/end time and time differences between master server and remote agents.

Customer Service and Technical Support

7/10; technical support is virtually impossible to get via direct phone call. You have to rely on trouble tickets and wait for a return phone call, which can take several hours depending on what time of day you are calling. You will need to keep constant follow-up on your ticket, as well, because it can slip through the cracks and go unnoticed for days. However, once engaged, especially on a conference call, the team is knowledgeable, courteous and very helpful.

Initial Setup

Initial setup was somewhat complex, although it might be because we installed on Linux. Windows might have been a bit easier using the installation wizards.

Pricing, Setup Cost and Licensing

It can get costly, as expected; IBM uses a Processor Value Unit (PVU) licensing model, which can be cumbersome to maintain.

Other Solutions Considered

I’ve used BMC Control-M in the past, at another company.

Other Advice

This product is a great product overall, but can behave strangely if any environmental issues occur (hardware/network). A lot of the issues we face, however, are supposed to be resolved with the later version. I’ve seen some demos of the latest release and it seems like large improvements have been made in terms of functionality and user experience.

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it_user453144 - PeerSpot reviewer
Tivoli Workload Scheduler Solution Architect at a non-tech company with 10,001+ employees
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Dynamic scheduling helped us schedule jobs on servers with restricted access. It doesn’t have in-built monitors to capture and report READY/INTRO state jobs.

What is most valuable?

Dynamic scheduling: This is one feature which helped us achieve some important business objectives without the need to install TWS on a server. Some of the servers in our organization have restricted access and dynamic scheduling helped us schedule jobs on these servers without the need to install TWS.

What needs improvement?

  • Monitoring
  • Reporting

TWS doesn’t have in-built monitors to capture and report READY/INTRO state jobs. In our environment, we use TWS to schedule jobs in SAP and without an in-built monitor to capture these, we use custom-built scripts to report jobs stuck in READY/INTRO state.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have used the product for seven years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

There were real stability issues. The WebSphere process gets hung on TWS masters running TWS 9.1. WebSphere is used heavily in our environment and a restart of WAS is really required at least once in a month.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

There were no scalability issues.

How is customer service and technical support?

Technical support was not always the best. You need a little bit of patience until the PMR is routed to the right layer of support.

How was the initial setup?

Initial setup using the GUI was straightforward. However installing/upgrading a TWS master using the silent approach is a little bit tricky, as the details and the steps have to be collected from many other documents. There was no single document to help us to install the TWS, WAS, and IBM Installation Manager using the silent approach.

What other advice do I have?

I would recommend other users to definitely consider TWS, as it has proven to be a powerful tool in our environment so far.

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it_user550128 - PeerSpot reviewer
Consultant at a financial services firm with 1,001-5,000 employees
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The simplicity of the GUI is the most valuable feature for us.

What is most valuable?

The simplicity of the GUI is the most valuable feature for us.

How has it helped my organization?

My organization has automated a lot of tasks that were previously being done manually like processing of cheques from multiple banks. This was a three step process wherein a dedicated man resource used to scan the cheques individually, another person then updated a record in the database followed by sending out an email.

All these steps required a lot of time and money and any absence of human resources would result in severe lapses. With the help of Tivoli, all the three tasks were automated into a single jobstream that runs throughout the year without any manual intervention, even taking off days and holidays.

What needs improvement?

Out of the box reporting and provision for customization/integration with other products are the areas where this product can be improved.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using the product for six years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

We have not encountered any significant stability issues.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

We have not encountered any scalability issues.

How are customer service and technical support?

The support teams at IBM that work with Tivoli Workload Scheduler cases are comprised of people who have tremendous command on troubleshooting issues as well as people who are not that technically capable. So the experience can be good and bad depending on the engineer that you end up coordinating with. I would say overall, the support for this product is above average.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

I have been consistently using Tivoli Workload Scheduler as a one stop solution for my various client's job scheduling and automation needs, so I am not aware of any previous solutions.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup is not very easy as IBM has multiple components integrated with the core product which are mandatory to setup and can be a bit tricky.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

This would be one the expensive lines of product in IBM's portfolio, so initial costs can run high if someone is buying it for the first time. The licensing is IBM proprietary, and clients are not charged on the basis of underlying hardware configuration that hosts the installed application - CPU cores and manufacturer to be exact - which goes up as you add on to your processing capabilities.

Over a period, once you are a client, you may get better pricing quotes from your sales representative. Also, there are workload based flexible pricing options available for smaller setups which can always be considered and negotiated accordingly.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

The alternatives in this category of products are not many. BMC Control-M and CA Autosys and another job scheduler from Tidal are the major ones. I have evaluated BMC and CA, both are equally capable and perform wonderfully well, the one advantage IBM has over its counterparts is its capabilities with mainframe scheduling for a very long time. Most old companies have had mainframes for 2-3 decades now and IBM integrates seamlessly across their legacy mainframe as well as the newer distributed setups.

What other advice do I have?

It's a very good scheduling product if you have a combination of mainframe and distributed environments that have batch operations and repetitive tasks running on them. The SAP plugin is outstanding and SAP process chains run a like a dream when scheduled using Tivoli.

If you have an environment like the one I've just mentioned, this would unarguably be your best bet. The initial costs are steep but it pays off in the longer run as the product itself is very stable if configured correctly.

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it_user426939 - PeerSpot reviewer
AVP, DevOps Manager at a financial services firm with 1,001-5,000 employees
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It's array of scheduling options includes run and exclusion calendars (holidays).

What is most valuable?

The features most valuable to us are the diverse array of scheduling options, including run and exclusion calendars (holidays). The dependency management system allows us to build just about any scheduled batch process imaginable. Tivoli consistently runs jobs as scheduled and precisely as defined. This is critical, as we need our scheduler to be dependable and consistent.

We can also export job and schedule definitions to a flat file and then import them into a higher environment. This is critical for treating jobs and schedules as code, checking the definitions into version control, and deploying them cleanly. We can manage jobs and schedules ourselves without needing to turn to a designer in production.

How has it helped my organization?

Tivoli Workflow Scheduler provides a centralized tool for all scheduled jobs, including design, monitoring, and support. With thousands of jobs running each day, this would be unmanageable using Windows scheduled tasks, cron jobs, or a home grown scheduler based on Quartz or similar framework.

What needs improvement?

One area of improvement is the user interface. While it is extremely functional, it’s not very user friendly and it’s difficult to visualize the flow of a complicated job schedule. A visual flow would be very useful to see how far a schedule has progressed, where it failed, and why.

For how long have I used the solution?

We’ve been using Tivoli Workload Scheduler for 4.5 years.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

We have had no issues with scalability. However, we have less than 100 batch servers across all environments, so our environment is not very large.

How are customer service and technical support?

I can’t rate technical support. I have never worked with IBM technical support on an issue with TWS. However, our number of support requests has been low due to the reliability of the product.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

I have not used a previous solution. TWS was already in use when I started working here.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup is somewhat complex when taking into account the following factors:

  • the supported\recommended database types are Oracle or DB2 for Windows shops
  • deployment of agents across all batch processing servers
  • security configuration
  • load balancing and redundancy on the MASTER

Upgrades are also complex as all existing jobs, schedules, and other entities must be ported over and tested.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

I have not dealt with pricing or licensing.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

I did not evaluate other products as TWS was already in use when I started working here.

What other advice do I have?

Before purchasing Tivoli Workflow Scheduler, check out Automic One Scheduler. It’s much more expensive, but it does a lot more than just scheduling. If you are using TWS, make sure you provide training to your batch developers. Design a model for promoting jobs and schedules between environments. Utilize “composer” extracts and check your jobs and schedule definitions into a version control repository.

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it_user536097 - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior TWS Administrator & production support engineer at a maritime company with 1,001-5,000 employees
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Fault Tolerant Agents can run jobs without a network connection. POF is only one time a day.

What is most valuable?

With FTA (Fault Tolerant Agent) on remote servers, you have Agents to run jobs. An FTA does not need a network connection to do the job, except when the master sends the daily production plan to the FTA. This feature is very nice because POF is only one time a day. So FTA removing POF from the final schedule is very valuable.

What needs improvement?

Have a more simple GUI for end-users. This is simply because I am used to using the command line. The GUI is not easy for non-technical users.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have used the solution for 15 years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

We had stability issues when managed by not enough skilled people.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

There were no scalability issues using DM.

How is customer service and technical support?

Technical support was excellent.

How was the initial setup?

Initial setup was simple.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

It is expensive.

What other advice do I have?

Spend time to define a robust architecture, and day-to-day operations with a specialist.

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it_user489873 - PeerSpot reviewer
Graduate Research Assistant at a university with 10,001+ employees
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Job monitoring and scheduling​ using the front end was easy.

Valuable Features

The TWS GUI was an excellent feature. Job monitoring and scheduling using the front end was extremely easy.

Improvements to My Organization

Job scheduling is an integral part of deploying data warehousing jobs. I was a part of the developer team and while coordinating with the support team who did the actual job scheduling, it was easy for them to coordinate with us on what job to release first, what to cancel, what to release dependencies, etc.

Room for Improvement

If there was a way to monitor SLA breaches from within TWS, it would have been great. The only way to monitor job failures on TWS was to check the GUI for any failed streams. This said, there are ticketing systems associated with batch and real-time jobs that triggered an alert whenever something failed and that works well with TWS.

The one scenario that I encountered (and found a solution to by implementing a script from outside of TWS) was when a critical job does not start running even after the scheduled time, say due to an unexpected outage on one of the dependencies listed on TWS, there was no way to alert the owners of the application. And no ticketing system would alert anyone because technically, there is no failure. Or there was no way to trigger an alert from within TWS for a long running job, that is running way past it’s ETA.

Use of Solution

I used the solution for two years.

Deployment Issues

None that I encountered during my two-year tenure at Chase.

Customer Service and Technical Support

Deployments and issues with the TWS server were handled by a different team. Other than periodic maintenance outages, there was no other major downtime that I encountered.

Initial Setup

Individual access setup was relatively easy. But I think I would attribute this to the setup teams, to the on-boarding team at Chase. We had a specialized request procedure and an access team handled the request.

Other Solutions Considered

Things shifted after I joined. They evaluated Control-M and decided to pursue Control-M and discontinue use of TWS. Control-M had a far superior user interface and also had a notification system which TWS lacked.

Other Advice

There are multiple factors that would influence my preference to this product. In purely ease of use, functionality etc, I would rate it 8/10. I am not considering the cost of license etc.

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SLA breaches can be alerted on via the use of Event Rules.

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