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Data Architect at a government with 10,001+ employees
Real User
Database design solution used for business analysis and to improve the health of data models
Pros and Cons
  • "I've used the reverse engineering feature a lot. I can take a look at the structure of the database and what relationships it has."
  • "There are some minor things that could be easier. We're writing up procedures to bring all the modeling back into one group as this reduces delays in production."

What is our primary use case?

We use this solution for business analysis and to generate use cases. Each model is developed based on all the requirements that are gathered. There's a small install for the setup on each machine and then we operate through a shared license server that is connected to it.

One of the things that I'm working on right now is improving the health of our models because a number of them are old. We're missing a lot of information that we need as we look towards an enterprise level data lake. This will allow us to better relate ownership of the data to a particular area within ODOT.

What is most valuable?

I've used the reverse engineering feature a lot. I can take a look at the structure of the database and what relationships it has. Some of the general modeling functions are also really valuable. It's pretty simple to show people how to add objects to model and develop relationships.

What needs improvement?

I'm trying to find some of the requirements for data cataloging within Power Designer. There are some minor things that could be easier. We're writing up procedures to bring all the modeling back into one group as this reduces delays in production.  

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

We have experienced one issue with stability which was connected to licensing. For two or three days, nobody could get in and use the tool. Assuming we do not experience a similar incident, I would rate them a seven or eight out of ten for stability. We are no longer signed up for support from Power Designer and so we have needed to determine our own workarounds in these situations which takes some time.

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How are customer service and support?

The technical support for this solution is good. When we developed the instructions, we had meetings with them and changed the order of some of the things and added things that they wanted to see. 

I would rate the support for this solution an eight out of ten. 

How would you rate customer service and support?

Positive

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup is straightforward. We had a problem a few years ago when we moved our from a SQL server. Out of 16 installs, we had three failures and that was because people changed from the standard setup.

We have two Power Designer administrators and I am one of them. When anyone checks in, it creates a change list. 

What other advice do I have?

I would rate this solution a seven out of ten. 

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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Martin Gregor - PeerSpot reviewer
DWH, BI & Big Data consultant / developer /modeler - independent contractor at Freelancer
Real User
Top 10
Data modeling tool that makes it possible to easily convert physical models into convertible files
Pros and Cons
  • "The most useful feature has been the detailed possibility to model almost anything regarding physical databases."
  • "You have the possibility to complete a connection for abbreviations if you are creating columns or names of the tables. In the Citrix environment, this has been lagging to the point where the PowerDesigner was not usable."

What is our primary use case?

I have been creating physical, logical models for data warehousing for a major bank in the Czech Republic. We have been converting these physical models into external files, generating the DDLs for objects and then deploying objects into those environments. We have 20 users in our business who use this solution but there are additional users across various branches of the bank. 

What is most valuable?

The most useful feature has been the detailed possibility to model almost anything regarding physical databases. The main goal was to create a data model for financial services in Teradata including a column description, primary case indexes and object relations. 

What needs improvement?

You have the possibility to complete a connection for abbreviations if you are creating columns or names of the tables. In the Citrix environment, this has been lagging to the point where the PowerDesigner was not usable. Various patches to fix this have not worked. Ultimately, we have abandoned PowerDesigner on Citrix. 

After working with SAP to resolve this, we found that this could be an issue with VPNs or with a firewall inside a bank institution. We haven't concluded on this for certain but definitely need an improvement when using PowerDesigner on the Citrix Server. 

In a future release, we would like to have the ability to improve the visibility of changes when doing check-ins. I have been working on a model for a few days and in those few days the repository got updated by up to 20 people. We would like to have a list of changes, the name of the user which created a change, or the login of the user who created this change in the change book. This would save us a lot of time. 

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using this solution for three years. 

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

This solution is stable but only on local devices. I have had some issues with the Citrix Server. For example, the solution has worked well when we have had users on holiday and when not running at full capacity. However, when our full operation is running, PowerDesigner does not perform well. 

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

This is a scalable solution. There is a lot of possibility to create many models and scale its use. 

How are customer service and support?

At some point, we had an issue with the abbreviation file and we couldn't solve it on our side. We had to connect to the SAP user support and they resolved the issue for us in half a day. Overall, the support we received was really good. 

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup is straightforward now but initially took some time to get used to. I've been using it as a user, not as an administrator. We connected to a repository and the name and user login was automatically remembered so it took about one minute.

At one point, we observed an error when two users have been doing check-ins of this model at the same time.

What other advice do I have?

This solution offers good documentation and some cool usage types. I would rate this solution an eight out of ten because learning how to use this solution is easy. However, there have been some difficulties, especially with visibility of changes. I haven't been using other modeling tools so it makes it challenging to compare this solution to others.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

Hybrid Cloud
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IT/IS architecture at a consultancy with 201-500 employees
Real User
Top 20
A useful tool for creating application maps and handling change requests on IS

What is our primary use case?

I mainly use it to create application maps and to connect other applications to IOS platforms. Usually, we use PowerDesigner in order to study the impact of modifying columns and the cut-offs in order to deploy a new data model. I also use it to handle change requests on IS, for example, pushing data models or applying the follow-up on changes done directly on other IOS.

What needs improvement?

I think that the user experience could use a lot of improvement. 

It would also be good to have a connection with CMDB. In particular, the gap analysis. Usually, when we work on a project, on enterprise architect tools, we start with a paper version and then connect the CMDB. PowerDesigner cannot analyze the gap between reality and the theoretical schema we build.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using SAP PowerDesigner for about four to five years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

It is quite stable. The tool is widely used among big companies here in France and North Africa. It has evolved through the years. When it comes to stability, I would give it a ten out of ten.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

It can handle everything. It can reproduce all data models, all connections, all APIs, and so on. I would give it a nine out of ten. 

How are customer service and support?

So far, I have not had any need to contact SAP's technical support. 

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

I would say that the Linux and MEGA are intuitive, but not complete. Linux cannot track down the data model inside the databases, but it's very intuitive and user-friendly. So PowerDesigner is complete, but it's for experts and cannot be used by junior teams.

How was the initial setup?

The onboarding of the solution is very difficult when we're creating a project from scratch. Even with the new version of the design, it's very difficult to create a new project and start building blocks around it. It is a very efficient tool once the first scheme is created, the first version. Then we create the business view, then the platform view, then the application view, but what could use improvement is the user experience. We cannot start without a very long tutorial, and I would say it's not very user-friendly.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

The licensing model is quite expensive. It costs approximately one hundred thousand euros to initially set it up.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?


What other advice do I have?

I would rate PowerDesigner an eight out of ten.

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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Pratham Nagella - PeerSpot reviewer
SRM Consultant at a tech vendor with 10,001+ employees
Consultant
Top 20
Powerful document creations, helpful support, but complex to use
Pros and Cons
  • "The most valuable features of SAP PowerDesigner are the creation the flow charts and folders. It is a powerful tool."
  • "SAP PowerDesigner can improve the ease of use. It is not the best tool on the market because it is tough to navigate and use. A beginner would not be able to use it well, it requires some experience. If the solution was more user-friendly it would be able to be used by more audiences. I do not think many people are aware of this solution and they should use it."

What is our primary use case?

I used SAP PowerDesigner as a tool for document folder flow charts and other features.

How has it helped my organization?

SAP PowerDesigner is helpful because you can create any type of document.

What is most valuable?

The most valuable features of SAP PowerDesigner are the creation the flow charts and folders. It is a powerful tool.

What needs improvement?

SAP PowerDesigner can improve the ease of use. It is not the best tool on the market because it is tough to navigate and use. A beginner would not be able to use it well, it requires some experience. If the solution was more user-friendly it would be able to be used by more audiences. I do not think many people are aware of this solution and they should use it.

In a future release, more features should be added. Other solutions have more features.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using SAP PowerDesigner for approximately two years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

I rate the stability of SAP PowerDesigner a seven out of ten.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

I rate the scalability of SAP PowerDesigner a six out of ten.

We have approximately 200 to 300 in the company but not everyone uses it. We will increase usage depending on the company's requirements.

How are customer service and support?

The support from SAP PowerDesigner is great.

I rate the support from SAP PowerDesigner an eight out of ten.

How would you rate customer service and support?

Positive

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

I did not use other solutions similar to SAP PowerDesigner.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup of SAP PowerDesigner requires some training before they can work on it. It would be beneficial for those who want to work with the took to take a one month or 20-day training course.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

The price of the solution is low. 

I rate the price of SAP PowerDesigner an eight out of ten.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

I have not evaluated other solutions before using them. I use whatever the client specifies.

What other advice do I have?

We use 10 to 20 experienced people for the maintenance of the solution. However, the amount of people needed depends on what needs to be worked on. We have other teams that work on the tool, such as developers.

My advice to others is they should try out the solution, it's a good tool. This solution is priced low and if it works for their use case then it is better than paying for a more expensive solution. If your requirements are too high, you can't expect this tool to meet all of your needs, it does not have all the features. You have to go for other options if your requirement needs more features.

I rate SAP PowerDesigner a seven out of ten.

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Manager, Data Architecture at DFS Singapore Pte Ltd
Real User
Ability to work on a single repository is great; web portal enables view from the browser perspective
Pros and Cons
  • "Very good repository features."
  • "UI could be improved by enabling simpler navigation."

What is our primary use case?

We are using the enterprise architect version of the solution, using the repository to create our enterprise models; different business models that include process to data models and application architecture models. From a dimension perspective it's like a business application with data and infrastructure. We have categories of different models and we use this tool. I model a lot of these into centralized repositories, so they can be used by internal staff to view all the models or to see the lineage and navigate through them, viewing the relationship between the models and staff. 

In terms of modeling, we have large teams of around 50 to 60 people who have the license to show the different kinds of models in terms of system projects. For the web portal which allows viewing of the models, all users in our organization have access rights, meaning there are around 100 people that have access. The solution is used daily. We will likely carry out a review at the end of the year to see whether the current configuration is enough for us or whether we need to expand. We are customers of SAP and I'm a manager, data architecture. 

What is most valuable?

One of the key reasons for choosing this solution above others is because of the repository features which we're able to consolidate and work on a single repository where we store all our models in one location. In addition, the web portal feature allows us to present, or actually view these models from a browser's perspective. We have two groups of people: The first develops the models and the second views them. They can log in to a web portal and view the models. The product presented a strong case for us in deciding to establish this kind of creation and consumption model to make it really cost effective and increase the value of our organization. 

What needs improvement?

Although the presentation for viewing the models is good, I think it could be better. From my experience with other products, the SAP UI could be improved by enabling simpler navigation, especially for non-technical users. It would be ideal if there was a more seamless viewing experience of the models. Another improvement would be to adopt more industry models, especially from the enterprise architecture dimension. You could be adopting the industry standard as with made models, UML and other forms of industry enterprise architecture models. That would enhance the whole usability and enterprise nature of the modeling t

Additional features could support other model types which would improve the connectors to the increasing number of software to service packages now that a lot of the applications are moving into the cloud. We need to connect on all fronts. There is still a lot of room for improvement on the web portals in terms of the usability and the visual. 

For how long have I used the solution?

I've been using this solution for about eight months. 

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

From the performance perspective, I think the tool is pretty stable. The only issue might be on the loading of the model which depends on how complex your model is. You need to be careful of those with a lot of relationships and you need to add other models when you load it in the web portal, and that can slow things down. In general, the solution is stable but it depends on your configuration. I don't have many crashes. 

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

The scalability seems to be okay although I haven't fully tested it yet. 

How are customer service and technical support?

The technical support is good and they reply promptly. They also have information online. I'm happy with the support. 

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

I used to use ER/Studio and Techwin for modeling. In my previous job, the focus was more on the modeling and data modeling as a stand-alone kit. We selected PowerDesigner here because of the repository setup it caters to. SAP has the function to be able to establish the repositories, work in teams and then consolidate and present to a larger audience through a web browser. That was the main consideration for switching. The usability of how to model is pretty similar and there's no big difference in terms of the functionalities. But from a whole enterprise setup; the repositories, the check in, check out of those things into a central repository, are the key reasons we switched. 

One key difference is the connectivity. Besides the modeling we also do reverse engineering. We will try to connect to different data sources to extract information rather than building a model from scratch. That is one advantage because this is actually the SAP program so it has a good connection with the SAP product. We use quite a lot of SAP modules in our organization, so it's a good fit in a way that we can actually link it to some of our SAP servers and database and just reverse engineer the models. This is a main benefit over the other solutions which  are more neutral and more stand-alone products.

How was the initial setup?

I carried out the initial setup myself and would say that it is moderately difficult. There's a lot of reading necessary on the documentation and if you're setting it up for the first time you might require technical support. Implementation took several days but the timing really depends because some of it requires the trust structures, opening up parts, etc.  

What other advice do I have?

The key thing is really about the use case or the requirements. We are into enterprise modeling and we are looking at sharing the models and those are the requirements that shift the evaluation criteria. For those looking at stand-alone models, they may not be looking at sharing these, mainly they just want to produce their models and things, so those criteria will differentiate selecting the different products. And whether you have a large team of people or you are focusing on only a few players in a small team, that will also determine your criteria for selecting the product. 

I would rate this solution an eight out of 10. 

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

On-premises
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Bhargav Thota - PeerSpot reviewer
Database Engineer at a tech company with 10,001+ employees
Real User
It has a good extraction feature, is highly scalable, and has clear documentation
Pros and Cons
  • "The feature I found valuable in SAP PowerDesigner is extraction. I also like that my company hasn't faced any issues because of the clear documentation about SAP PowerDesigner."
  • "One disadvantage of SAP PowerDesigner is that you cannot reverse engineer the ALTER statements, so that's an enhancement or area for improvement I'm looking forward to seeing from the SAP team in the future. That should directly reflect on the physical data models my company builds."

What is our primary use case?

We use SAP PowerDesigner for logical data modeling and physical data modeling.

What is most valuable?

The feature I found valuable in SAP PowerDesigner is extraction.

I also like that my company hasn't faced any issues because of the clear documentation about SAP PowerDesigner.

What needs improvement?

One disadvantage of SAP PowerDesigner is that you cannot reverse engineer the ALTER statements, so that's an enhancement or area for improvement I'm looking forward to seeing from the SAP team in the future. That should directly reflect on the physical data models my company builds.

I also want SAP PowerDesigner to be able to generate ALTER statements in the future.

For how long have I used the solution?

I've been using SAP PowerDesigner for over two and a half years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

Stability-wise, SAP PowerDesigner is a seven out of ten.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

SAP PowerDesigner is a highly scalable solution.

How are customer service and support?

I haven't contacted the technical support for SAP PowerDesigner. Support only reaches out to me to see if there's any upgrade or patch installation issue.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

My company hasn't used a different solution apart from SAP PowerDesigner. It's been the company's solution for the last twenty years. Though my company recently thought of bringing erwin Data Modeler on board, the initiation process was put on hold.

How was the initial setup?

Setting up SAP PowerDesigner was straightforward, though the technical management team handled that. That team makes the software available for people to use.

What was our ROI?

My company hasn't disclosed ROI details to me, so I have no information on whether there was ROI from SAP PowerDesigner.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

Regarding costs, SAP PowerDesigner is pricey, as I've heard from my team manager, which is why the company has been thinking of bringing another solution on board.

What other advice do I have?

My company has implemented SAP PowerDesigner and no longer requires any other data modeling tool.

I'm using the desktop version of SAP PowerDesigner, version 16.5.7.

In the company, more than one hundred people use SAP PowerDesigner. My company only has twenty-two licenses, so most users rely on mobile licenses.

One person can handle the deployment and maintenance of SAP PowerDesigner.

I advise anyone looking into using SAP PowerDesigner to consider the only constraint that erwin Data Modeler could overcome and SAP PowerDesigner couldn't. erwin Data Modeler can generate the ALTER statements apart from the CREATE statements. In contrast, SAP PowerDesigner only generates the CREATE statements, which is why people prefer to use erwin Data Modeler. You also need to consider your budget. Cost-wise, SAP PowerDesigner is better than erwin Data Modeler.

My rating for SAP PowerDesigner is eight out of ten.

My company is a customer of SAP PowerDesigner.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

On-premises
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reviewer1365882 - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior Principal IT Architect -- MDM Architecture at a healthcare company with 10,001+ employees
Real User
Good property sheet capabilities, and the central repository works well on the company network
Pros and Cons
  • "I like the property sheet capability and the user-defined attributes that you can set up."
  • "Checking-in models to the repository, especially when working remotely, is a slow process than can sometimes have problems with models being corrupted."

What is our primary use case?

I use PowerDesigner to take business requirements and model them from a data modeling perspective. We can then take the result and turn it into a physical model in a database like SQL Server or Oracle.

How has it helped my organization?

This is a tool that facilitates a more cohesive development. From a design and documentation perspective, it makes sure that all of the databases are the correct version for the code base, without running into issues with things being out of sync or out-of-date compared to production or development. 

What is most valuable?

I like the property sheet capability and the user-defined attributes that you can set up.

The central repository is helpful because they have the ability to check-in models when working as part of a larger team. It supports versioning, as well.

What needs improvement?

Checking-in models to the repository, especially when working remotely, is a slow process than can sometimes have problems with models being corrupted. Between the client tool and the repository, the process is very chatty. Consequently, sometimes it takes forever to download a model and if it is corrupted then you won't be able to check it in or out again.

It would be a nice feature if we had the ability to generate a JSON file from a model.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using PowerDesigner for more than 10 years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

If you're just modeling on one computer such as your desktop, or your client's computer, then it is very stable. However, if you are not on your company's network and you are checking in models from a remote location then there can be problems.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

I think that the scalability is fine, given that it's for design and development on a project team. On a large project team, we might have 10 or 20 modelers working on it. You don't have thousands or tens of thousands of users, so it scales just fine for what its purpose is.

In my department, we have 10 or 15 users who are data architects or solution architects.

How are customer service and technical support?

We have somebody internally who supports the platform. We have client licensing, so if there is an issue then we can raise a ticket with the vendor, but that is somebody from another group. My personal impression is that technical support is fine.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

I have used other tools like erwin Data Modeler and they have versioning repositories also, but it seems like their check-in and check-out processes are much simpler and much cleaner. The central repository seems to be a little more stable.

The other advantage to erwin is that you can model right in the diagram, which means less clicking. In PowerDesigner, sometimes there are so many property sheets that we are constantly clicking.

What other advice do I have?

When I began using PowerDesigner, it was an independent product. Since that time, SAP acquired it. It is a very solid product that does both data modeling and business process modeling.

My advice for anybody who is implementing PowerDesigner is to make sure that the central repository for versioning models is on a high-bandwidth network with a solid database backing it up.

In summary, this product gives you all of the features that a modeler would require to produce both logical and physical data models. There really is not a lot that is lacking and my only complaint is about the versioning repository. Of course, this is only a problem when we are working remotely. If there is a large model with perhaps 600 tables and 2,500 attributes, then it is going to be very demanding on bandwidth.

I would rate this solution an eight out of ten.

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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Muharrem Iseri - PeerSpot reviewer
Managing Partner at a tech services company with 11-50 employees
Real User
Top 5Leaderboard
An user-friendly collaborative tool with easy data governance and reverse engineering features
Pros and Cons
  • "It is more flexible than other tools and user-friendly, making it easy to adapt."
  • "Based on my experience with SAP PowerDesigner, I'd like to see improvements in the DMM feature."

What is our primary use case?

I use SAP PowerDesigner for data warehouse projects and governance projects, including physical, logical, and conceptual designs.

What is most valuable?

It is more flexible than other tools and user-friendly, making it easy to adapt. It's valid on the enterprise side as I can create data dictionaries or business glossaries and easily extend them to both business and IT sides. The solution also facilitates easy export and publish my work in different formats like HTML or PDF. PowerDesigner supports various databases, allowing for easy reverse engineering, including Oracle, SAP, Microsoft, etc. PowerDesigner fetches all objects into the design model for further needs.

SAP PowerDesigner makes data governance easy to use. IT or business users can quickly implement database or glossary objects by editing and publishing entries and creating naming standards for both database and business glossary sides. It allows dictionary or naming standard abbreviations to be easily applied to all objects, including conceptual, logical and physical models.

The reverse engineering feature allows you to create a project in your database and show it logically by publishing it for all users in your enterprise. It lets you directly connect PowerDesigner to your databases, whether it's Microsoft or Oracle, and fetch all objects, including primary keys, entities, and stored procedures. You can then edit these objects in your model.

What needs improvement?

Based on my experience with SAP PowerDesigner, I'd like to see improvements in the DMM feature. Even if I have an ETL tool, I'd like the DMM options to directly connect to ETL tool repositories like Azure Sentinel, Informatica, or ODI, helping me map all object relationships, like source-to-target mapping, directly from the ETL tool's repository.

Forward engineering in the DMM options is one area where PowerDesigner could add functionality. While it's excellent for showing source-to-target mapping and understanding data lineage, it would be helpful if it could also handle ETL functions and coding. I wish I could implement ETL operations within PowerDesigner, especially since I've already mapped and designed everything. Having everything in one place, including the ability to forward engineer databases and work on ETL coding, would be incredibly useful.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been working with SAP PowerDesigner for the past ten years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

Stability is also good; I would rate it as eight out of ten.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

For scalability, I'd rate it around eight out of ten.

How are customer service and support?

Technical support is decent, though the response time and quality could be better.

How would you rate customer service and support?

Neutral

How was the initial setup?

The setup process for SAP PowerDesigner is simple.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?


What other advice do I have?

Overall, I'd rate PowerDesigner an eight out of ten.

I recommend the product to other users.

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