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it_user101577 - PeerSpot reviewer
VMware Pre-Sales Engineer at a tech services company with 1,001-5,000 employees
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For my customers who must balance capital and operational budgets, it allows them to buy only what they need now and then grow as needed. However, not having VRealize detracts from its usability.

What is most valuable?

Scalability, and flexibility.

My conversations, now, have to do with trying to help customers on how to grow with VSAN.

How has it helped my organization?

It offers a lower cost of growth for a lot of our customers. They can meet immediate needs, but don’t need to spend a lot of money now. Balancing between capital budget and operational budget, instead of buying SAN to SAN, they can buy what they need now and then have operational costs after that.

What needs improvement?

If you don't have vRealize Operations, it would detract from usability of VSAN. It allows our customers to see more granularly than other storage solutions.

How are customer service and support?

Never used. Last week, I got in touch with a channel partner, and he talked about different tools and different things they had implemented. Our team excited about it because there we don’t have many resources, but now we have with channel partner.

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What about the implementation team?

We set it up for our healthcare customer with our in-house team only.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

Look outside of upfraont costs, because it’ll be equivalent to Nutanix. Its biggest value is its scalability. You can buy a little bit, and not a whole infrastructure box when you want to grow. Customers can just spin up half a dozen additional hosts quickly of they want.

What other advice do I have?

I have a lot of confidence in it, but it’s a challenge to convince customers because they’re intrigued but don’t want to take the steps. All the specs and concept of having storage within servers is interesting to customers, but not ready to pull trigger. If we can sell more with Horizon, then licenses included for pricing, and must refresh hosts anyways.

Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: We're a VMware Partner
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Director - DC & Hybrid Cloud Presales Lead for APAC at a computer software company with 10,001+ employees
Real User
OEM agnostic and easy to configure, but needs easier updates and better pricing
Pros and Cons
  • "Its ease of use is most valuable. It is easy to configure, and there is a unified interface, which makes things slightly easier."
  • "They should make the software updates easier. We should be able to upgrade it more easily."

What is our primary use case?

We are VMware and Nutanix partners. I'm more into the architecting role. I propose solutions to the customers. I'm not using it as an end-user.

Our customers use it for their core business applications. They use it for production and non-production workloads.

We are mostly working with its latest version.

How has it helped my organization?

There are definitely cost benefits. There is also no OEM dependency. I can reach out to any OEM and deploy VMware vSAN. 

What is most valuable?

Its ease of use is most valuable. It is easy to configure, and there is a unified interface, which makes things slightly easier.

What needs improvement?

They can be more competitive in terms of pricing.

They should make the software updates easier. We should be able to upgrade it more easily.

If we can have a unified dashboard for managing the public cloud environment, it would be good.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been working with this product for more than five years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

It is stable.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

It is scalable. We had a maximum of around 10,000 users.

How are customer service and support?

Our delivery team contacts them. Their response time was good enough.

How was the initial setup?

It is not really difficult, but you need a skilled resource to manage that. The deployment duration varies. It usually takes a week or so.

What about the implementation team?

We set it up for our customers. We have around four to five people for deployment and maintenance.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

It is slightly expensive. They can be more competitive in terms of pricing.

What other advice do I have?

I would definitely recommend it to others. vSAN is not suitable for all environments. It is better to do the assessment before going ahead with vSAN.

I would rate it a seven out of 10.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

On-premises
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Lead Engineer at IBS Platformix
Real User
Easy to implement but requires an entire reorganization of the architecture
Pros and Cons
  • "VMware vSAN is easy to implement in a VMware environment and it is not expensive."
  • "The architecture of vSAN is not good. vSAN works with objects, such as disks, and it causes problems with availability."

What is most valuable?

VMware vSAN is easy to implement in a VMware environment and it is not expensive.

What needs improvement?

The architecture of vSAN is not good. vSAN works with objects, such as disks, and it causes problems with availability. When we send users caches we lose the total cache disk of the group. It's really a red line for using vSAN. We don't lose all the data because it is replicated in other groups, but when the object is lost in one group, we only have one remaining and this creates a higher risk of losing data.

Another is the restrictions of using deduplication and compression, it requires all-flash for it meaning that deduplication is on for all clusters and you can't control it for specific ones. I would like VMware vSAN to give hybrid configurations more caches and to add deduplication and compression for hybrid configurations.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using VMware vSAN for a year.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The architecture of VMware vSAN is a major issue with stability. 

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

There have been no problems with scalability of this solution.

How was the initial setup?

The initial set up of VMware vSAN is easy. The implementation requires just one click and VMware will take care of the rest.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

VMware vSAN is not expensive. We compare it with Nutanix and the discounts from VMware are really good for vSAN.

What other advice do I have?

If you want vSAN it is important that you understand all sides of the solution and have the right hardware solution. For example, you should consider if you need reliable disks for cache and split it into more clusters or groups.

I would give this solution a five out of 10.

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Account Executiveager at a tech services company with 501-1,000 employees
Real User
It offers us some flexibility, but it could be integrated better with the cloud
Pros and Cons
  • "If we decide to expand, vSAN could offer us some flexibility. We are researching ways to set this up from a new data center, which is located somewhere different from the current location right now."
  • "I would like to see better integration between the cloud and our VMware virtual environment. We only have one virtual environment, which is VMware vSAN. Right now, there is little interoperability with the cloud solution at the moment."

What is our primary use case?

I work at a small company, and we have VxRail. Like Rubrik, VxRail can be upgraded brick by brick. Now we are studying considering deploying another traditional setup comprising a host and SAN Storage. VMware vSAN is a virtual SAN Storage. 

We are planning to expand the resources of our system, including CPU, RAM, and storage. Currently, we are utilizing the basic VxRail setup, which consists of only three nodes, and we're in the process of acquiring another. I'm upgrading because it's at capacity, so we have no choice but to add another node so we can expand the loads for some new applications that we need to employ under the virtual servers. Our expansion to a new data center will add some more capacity to the current setup.

In the end, we could wind up with around six nodes, SAN storage, or flash array storage. But we don't have a definite plan yet. Everything is being drafted at the moment, and we're researching some details on backup solutions and VR solutions. We also have some cloud-based and server-hosted applications from Azure and AWS. So maybe the on-premises solution could involve some VMs or a hybrid backup solution that goes back and forth between the cloud and on-premises. 

What is most valuable?

If we decide to expand, vSAN could offer us some flexibility. We are researching ways to set this up from a new data center, which is located somewhere different from the current location right now.

What needs improvement?

I would like to see better integration between the cloud and our VMware virtual environment. We only have one virtual environment, which is VMware vSAN. Right now, there is little interoperability with the cloud solution at the moment. We are currently researching to figure out if we can achieve that. 

It's possible that we'll need to acquire new infrastructure for the new data center. And for that, we need to consult some architects, whether it's a VMware architect or some AWS and Azure architects. And we could come up with a workable blueprint that to use as a guideline so we can manage our infrastructure.

For how long have I used the solution?

I am new to this company, but I worked with different solutions at my previous company, including vSAN and the traditional VMware vSphere setup. So I've been using vSAN for two years or three years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

VMware vSAN is stable, although there's is some room for improvement. 

How are customer service and support?

I've been working with VMware technical support since I had my own company. It's pretty dependable because I used to work primarily with level three infrastructure support. We are the last escalation. I am one of the contact people between the company and the VMware vendor. The final escalations would be working with the vendor itself or some VMware engineer, whether it's vSAN, vSphere, Center, or anything else within the scope of our license.

In my environment right now, we only handle a limited set of VMware products. These solutions are not perfect because we must apply patches and updates to deal with glitches and minor bugs. Byt I think vSAN will be reliable, especially if the after-sales support and engineers are excellent and could help us work seamlessly and comfortably.

How was the initial setup?

Our initial vSAN setup is a backup from Rubrik being thrown up to AWS for Glacier. But in the near term, maybe we could migrate that kind of solution in a more seamless and resilient way. That's what we're considering right now.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

VMware is quite expensive compared to Microsoft's Hyper-V. However, when you factor in flexibility and comparability of use, it's reasonable enough. For the high price of VMware, you get seamless operation and manageability. At the same time, I think VMware is lowering the price for its cloud-based solutions. And it's stable enough that some organizations might want to put part of their setup on the cloud and the other part on-premises. VMware's advantage is that they were already preparing for cloud solutions many years ago. 

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

There are several virtual solutions that I have hands-on experience with, including VMware, Hyper-V, and some open source software. I could only compare Microsoft and VMware. VMware is significantly more expensive than Microsoft, but I still prefer VMware because it's manageable and easy to set up.

As a VMware customer, it's hard to judge the value I'm getting for the price in terms of operability and manageability. Then there are other factors, such as the amount of resources used. So when we're evaluating, we're not just looking at the price. We don't want to settle for something cheaper that might cost us some headaches.

What other advice do I have?

I rate VMware vSAN seven out of 10. I prefer a traditional SAN storage solution. Right now, we're only using vSAN for small solutions. At the basic level, it's good enough because it operates the same way as the traditional setup. It's suitable for companies that are starting and might expand in the near future. For those use cases, vSAN is a great choice compared to Hyper-V. It's much easier to maintain. However, I haven't deployed vSAN for a larger configuration.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

On-premises
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Managing Director at WISE VARY
Real User
Top 10
Easy to manage, with a convenient dashboard and good stability
Pros and Cons
  • "The solution fits well with my requirements."
  • "It would be ideal if the solution offered some intelligent monitoring."

What is our primary use case?

We primarily use the solution for virtualization for our organization.

What is most valuable?

The solution is easy to manage due to the fact that it uses the same dashboard as Center.

vSAN is okay for HCI.

The solution fits well with my requirements. 

The stability is good.

The product can scale.

I have always found the technical support to be helpful and responsive. 

What needs improvement?

So far, the solution is okay with me. 

It would be ideal if the solution offered some intelligent monitoring. Right now, most of these features are in another subscription such as Log Insight.

For how long have I used the solution?

I've used the solution for three years. 

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The stability has been very good. There are no bugs or glitches. It doesn't crash or freeze. 

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

We currently have ten people that directly use the solution in our organization. 

The scalability is simple. It's very easy to scale the HCI node.

How are customer service and support?

We rarely use technical support. We might use them for consulting purposes sometimes if, for example, we have a new system and then we are concerned that it might or might not be running on vSAN. We might need them to probe it first. So far, we have been satisfied with the level of support we get.

How was the initial setup?

I was not a part of the implementation process and therefore cannot speak to how easy or difficult it may be. 

The solution has very few maintenance requirements. Occasionally, they may recommend a fix or patch by updating it, and we do so. However, other than that, it's pretty simple to maintain.

What about the implementation team?

Normally we use a local system integrator or distributor to do the setup for us.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

The pricing is competitive with other vendors. It's mid-range in terms of pricing. It's not cheap and it's not overly expensive.

What other advice do I have?

We are a customer and an end-user.

We are using the latest version of the solution at this time. 

I'd recommend the solution to other users. It's easy to deploy and great for virtualization. 

I would rate the solution at a nine out of ten.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

On-premises
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Network Manager at Bank of Abyssinia
Real User
Extremely easy to deploy and manage; suitable for our requirements
Pros and Cons
  • "Easy to deploy and manage."
  • "This is quite an expensive solution."

What is most valuable?

This is a fantastic product, it is easy to deploy and to manage, and it suits our requirements. 

What needs improvement?

It is quite an expensive solution for us and I would like to see some improvements on the backup side of the solution. 

For how long have I used the solution?

I've been using this solution for three years. 

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup is straightforward. 

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

The price is quite expensive for us. 

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

Public Cloud
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reviewer1320009 - PeerSpot reviewer
Founder at a construction company with 11-50 employees
Real User
Easy to set up, fairly stable, and cost-effective
Pros and Cons
  • "It uncoupled the idea of proprietary technology and component capabilities. It is basically a proprietary technology for a cost-effective infrastructure."
  • "They can package it in a way that is specific to the hardware infrastructure and the hardware platform. It should stay fairly up to date with the drivers and the manufacturer issues. The problem with uncoupling the proprietary technology and component capabilities is that by uncoupling them, you run into some concerns or challenges over the poor performance model. These concerns really come when you start talking about high performance, high bandwidth, and high availability types of environments. While vSAN is a leader, in a critical view, it is not about being cost-effective. It is more about the immediate impact of money loss to the business in critical applications where we want to maintain a continuous operational 59 model. It is, however, good for QA/QC tasks. I don't necessarily know how it works in regards to VDI or virtual desktop infrastructure."

What is our primary use case?

We use it for commoditization and cost-effectiveness. We use it only to be able to spin up instances for monitoring and to do some application testing for other contracts. We are using the latest version.

What is most valuable?

It uncoupled the idea of proprietary technology and component capabilities. It is basically a proprietary technology for a cost-effective infrastructure. 

What needs improvement?

They can package it in a way that is specific to the hardware infrastructure and the hardware platform. It should stay fairly up to date with the drivers and the manufacturer issues.

The problem with uncoupling the proprietary technology and component capabilities is that by uncoupling them, you run into some concerns or challenges over the poor performance model. These concerns really come when you start talking about high performance, high bandwidth, and high availability types of environments. While vSAN is a leader, in a critical view, it is not about being cost-effective. It is more about the immediate impact of money loss to the business in critical applications where we want to maintain a continuous operational 59 model. It is, however, good for QA/QC tasks. I don't necessarily know how it works in regards to VDI or virtual desktop infrastructure.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using VMware vSAN for one and a half years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

It is fairly good.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

I wouldn't really be able to comment on that because we don't really have enough of an environment to understand what the cost of scale would look like. Our customers are small to medium enterprises.

How are customer service and technical support?

They are pretty good. I would rate them a seven out of ten. 

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We didn't use any solution previously. We just had monolithic storage. We just wanted to test this solution out.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup is fairly straightforward. You just need to do a level of due diligence before you do the installation. You can run into issues depending upon the compatibility with drivers.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

It is fairly cost-effective for entry to mid-level performance based on the underlying hardware components.

What other advice do I have?

I would advise doing your homework and making sure that it scales according to your expectations, performance, and ownership cost.

DataCore is a company that competes against them. DataCore is more focused, whereas VMware is wide. DataCore is a little bit better in terms of due diligence and information. vSAN is one of the many products based on the VMware industry, whereas DataCore is very focused and very niche. They've been doing virtualization since 1986.

I would rate VMware vSAN an eight out of ten.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

On-premises
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Vishal Bhatia - PeerSpot reviewer
Trainer/Consultant at a educational organization with 501-1,000 employees
Real User
Top 5
Easy to configure, deploy, and manage
Pros and Cons
  • "The deduplication and compression are excellent."
  • "There's a lot that can be done to segregate. That may be available now in vSAN 7, I suppose, however, the deduplication and compression can be segregated."

What is our primary use case?

We don't have any specific use cases, however, we do have a variety of workloads running on vSAN.

How has it helped my organization?

It's a massive shift now to have it in the portfolio and to have a complete software-defined data center.

What is most valuable?

The policies the solution has been very good. We use them a lot.

The deduplication and compression are excellent. 

There are a couple of features which we are using right now that we really like.

It's the kind of solution that is very easy to use, which may be its most valuable aspect for our organization.

The initial setup is straightforward.

The solution overall is very easy to manage and configure.

What needs improvement?

There's a lot that can be done to segregate. That may be available now in vSAN 7, I suppose, however, the deduplication and compression can be segregated. 

Increasing the classifiers to maybe more than 64 could be done in future releases.

The file service is something that can be integrated.

Something more could be done to integrate from a monitoring perspective right in the console itself so that we have deeper monitoring capabilities.

For how long have I used the solution?

I've been using the solution for about three years, however, I suspect it's been even longer than that.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

We haven't had any issues I can recall in terms of stability. It's pretty reliable. It doesn't crash or freeze. There aren't bugs or glitches.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

In our organization's case, we started with a number of nodes and I scaled it up from there. I didn't find any issues expanding the product. Scalability was not a problem.

This is a pretty recent deployment. While I've been working with the solution for three or four years, it's new to the company for the most part.

We plan to increase usage in the coming year. New workloads will get deployed and we'll begin to expand it more.

How are customer service and technical support?

The technical support has been very good. They're quite knowledgable and responsive. We're satisfied with the level of support we get.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

My organization didn't previously use a different hyper-converged solution. This product is their first in this particular area.

How was the initial setup?

There's no complexity in the original setup of the solution. The implementation is very straightforward.

Deployment was pretty quick. Just testing it out and finally rolling it out we managed to do in a couple of days. I would say within a week we were able to be up and running. 

What about the implementation team?

My company was involved directly with a reseller. The other nitty-gritty elements were something that I took care of it.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

I was not directly involved from a pricing perspective. I suppose it was competitive and that's why the company went ahead and with vSAN, therefore I assume the pricing is okay.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

We did look at other options. We ended up choosing vSAN mostly due to the price. However, we also liked how easy it was to set up, configure, and manage compared to other options.

What other advice do I have?

We're a partner with VMware.

Overall, I would rate them eight out of ten. They still have room for improvement. However, overall, we've been pleased with the results. It's easy to use, manage, and monitor.

The solution is best suited for small to medium-sized organizations.

If the solution is ideal for a company depends on the workloads and what they're trying to do right now. If a company would like to make a choice between the All-Flash or the Hybrid, I would definitely go for All-Flash. It may be a bit expensive as compared to Hybrid, however, definitely from a feature perspective and a performance perspective, All-Flash is the way to go.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

On-premises
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