I think CA is too heavy and can't do some things out-of-the-box, so I can't tell you that I love Identity Suite, because right now I don't. Also, everything's a customization, though they say it's not. What was easy to do with Xceedium has now become very difficult following CA's acquisition of them. The model that I see with IdentityMinder, for example, is that they are trying to think of all the things that the people would want to customize, and they make it out-of-the-box. Let's say I want a custom connector, but it's difficult to do that. So we have to go back to CA and get something, as opposed to doing it myself. To fix it, you get a product enhancement, which can take a year. It's not a horrible solution. You have SiteMinder, which is really good and the best of breed. What's interesting to me is just CA's model where, for example, they've added the secure proxy server which they're calling the application gateway. Everything must come through that, making it a little bit difficult sometimes to use the product. Also, when I look at CA's other products, why are they different products? Why, for example, aren't they just part of your SSO product? Why do I have to buy a license for a product when the only use is going to be with SiteMinder?
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