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reviewer1222554 - PeerSpot reviewer
Owner at a consultancy with 11-50 employees
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Top 20
Easy to use but could be more innovative
Pros and Cons
  • "In the end, what stands out to me is the ease of using the cloud. I don't see any distinct or unique advantages in business process modeling software compared to other application software. The cloud simplifies operations and removes many operational complexities, which is a significant benefit."
  • "It seems that there could be innovations in fostering spontaneous cooperation between departments and individuals. This extends to case management and finding new paradigms for enhancing such cooperation. While some approaches, like basic case management tools, have been tried in the past, they may not have met expectations entirely. However, ongoing efforts in administrative science are focused on these areas. Companies with innovative ideas can contribute to progress, possibly involving concepts related to trust, even within the context of web 3. There are intriguing developments in how economic and business organizations can be formed. When it comes to learning about these concepts, starting with simple examples and gradually moving to more complex ones is advisable. Begin with the basics, excluding unnecessary details that might hinder understanding. Over time, you can delve into more intricate aspects, such as Bitcoin and the Lightning Network, to gain a deeper understanding of these technologies."

What is our primary use case?

I have used it in multiple business processes in banking and insurance area.

What is most valuable?

In the end, what stands out to me is the ease of using the cloud. I don't see any distinct or unique advantages in business process modeling software compared to other application software. The cloud simplifies operations and removes many operational complexities, which is a significant benefit.          

What needs improvement?

It seems that there could be innovations in fostering spontaneous cooperation between departments and individuals. This extends to case management and finding new paradigms for enhancing such cooperation. While some approaches, like basic case management tools, have been tried in the past, they may not have met expectations entirely. However, ongoing efforts in administrative science are focused on these areas. Companies with innovative ideas can contribute to progress, possibly involving concepts related to trust, even within the context of Web 3. There are intriguing developments in how economic and business organizations can be formed.

When it comes to learning about these concepts, starting with simple examples and gradually moving to more complex ones is advisable. Begin with the basics, excluding unnecessary details that might hinder understanding. Over time, you can delve into more intricate aspects, such as Bitcoin and the Lightning Network, to gain a deeper understanding of these technologies.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using ARIS Cloud for the past 15 years. 

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What other advice do I have?

I rate the overall solution a seven out of ten. 

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reviewer1222554 - PeerSpot reviewer
Owner at a consultancy with 11-50 employees
Real User
Top 20
Excellent ability to function in complex circumstances
Pros and Cons
  • "It has proved that it also works in complex circumstances."
  • "Initial setup is rather complex. You have to find a way to isolate the complexity, and find common ground."

What is our primary use case?

Our primary use case is connected to finance, back-office processing in certain areas, reconciliation from various departments with different processes and different data departments. 

What needs improvement?

For improvement, I think BPM-vendors should make their models more flexible. One approach would be:

  • (a) to analyze the challenges of complex event processing in business environments subject to recurring change, 
  • (b) to cluster observed agile adjustments into types and 
  • (c) to extend their models to include the most common adjustment types. I think this is a very difficult issue, mathematically sound deadlock detection and prevention being one of the reasons.

Features that could be included relate to the above issues of flexibility. I'm not sure these issues could be solved in the next release, they might rather be included as goals in the medium and long-term strategy. It's really the vendors who would need to be involved in flexibility improvement and identifying the areas where it's required. I assume they are already doing that because they are quite interested in this area and are probably already on the right path.

How was the initial setup?

Initial setup is rather complex. You have to find a way to isolate the complexity, and find common ground at a level where they don't need the details, and if you choose that level, then you can use this business process modeling and then later on plug in some interfaces to deal with the details and the complexities.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

We've always gone for a higher level in price brackets, but actually I think if it really works and you can achieve a more uniform process and become a little bit more flexible, then I think the price is not really an issue. You need to prove that the return on investment is very high, and then the price isn't the deciding factor. It depends on who you talk to, accountants, for example, need to calculate the return. The pricing issue always comes up. If you can prove a good return on investment, then sometimes it's really so high that the price doesn't matter.

At the end of the day, if it's a good tool, people will stick with it. There are several tools that you can use very easily at the beginning, and later on, you find out they're lacking here or there, and in the end, it doesn't work well because of the environment or requirements that may be too complex for the tool. You might then choose a different solution, but I think in ARIS's case, that is not the issue.

What other advice do I have?

It works pretty well but there are also some pieces that need adjustment, maybe it's a little too structured. So you have to learn lots of things, We'd wanted to test S2 models in the business process notation. But you need lots of experience to get into it, and ARIS has proven that it works also in complex circumstances. I might be in favor of some tools which are not really as good as I think, and there might be other tools which are very bad, and I really like them. For now, I simply haven't had experience in the other, smaller tools. 

I would rate it an eight out of ten.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

Public Cloud
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Senior Manager at a transportation company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Real User
The usability is what we appreciate in this solution to assist us with business mapping
Pros and Cons
  • "This solution has improved the way our organization does training."
  • "I would like to see more support for architectural diagrams."

What is our primary use case?

Our primary use case for this solution is business mapping.

How has it helped my organization?

This solution has improved the way our organization does training.

What is most valuable?

The most valuable feature of this solution is its usability.

What needs improvement?

I would like to see more support for architectural diagrams.

How are customer service and technical support?

Our experience with technical support was good.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup of this solution was straightforward. It was a "grin filled" implementation.

What other advice do I have?

This product works for us right now. If at some point it doesn't work then we'll end up changing it.

I would rate this solution an eight out of ten.

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it_user793557 - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior Manager Advisory Services at a consultancy with 11-50 employees
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Opens collaboration opportunities between team members within the organization where they can submit change requests and navigate processes
Pros and Cons
  • "Aris Connect opens collaboration opportunities between team members within the organization where they can actually submit change requests, navigate processes, and offer comments. It opens up the potential for BPM within the organization. I didn't see such an angle of a BPM portal with any other products. So I would say that's the best selling feature."
  • "If you have multiple tiers of approvals into that update of the policy, or the process design itself, it takes ages to prepare those internal flows within the system."

What is most valuable?

Aris Connect opens collaboration opportunities between team members within the organization where they can actually submit change requests, navigate processes, and offer comments. It opens up the potential for BPM within the organization. I didn't see such an angle of a BPM portal with any other products. So I would say that's the best selling feature.

What needs improvement?

They need to revamp a whole module. This module has been in place for 16 years. It hasn't been updated since then. It's actually a separate license on its own. It's a disaster. It needs to be more functional. It doesn't work easily. It takes too much time to just create a simple flow, in terms of the process and governance structure. 

If you have multiple tiers of approvals into an update of a policy, or the process design itself, it takes ages to prepare those internal flows within the system.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using this solution for around ten years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The design suite of ARIS is stable. In terms of other modules such as Risk and Compliance or APG, especially APG, I wouldn't describe it as 'not stable', I would describe it as labor-intensive; you need to do a bunch of steps to make sure that the cloud engine is running smoothly for those two modules.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

It is fairly easy to scale but it is quite expensive to scale.

I also sell the platform as a reseller for this solution. We have hundreds of thousands of users. I don't use it largely myself within my organization. I work in PwC, PricewaterhouseCoopers. We don't tend to sell it but when we see clients interested, we give our recommendation and comparison between BPM engines, and they end up going to directly contract the vendor themselves.

We don't even recommend ARIS over another platform. We would recommend ARIS over another platform if the client doesn't have a budget. It's the most expensive option.

The users will vary. Some of the clients that adopted ARIS have 1,000 plus employees. Others have 200 employees. I even have a client that has 50,000 employees.

How are customer service and technical support?

Their technical support is weak. It's a regional problem because the Middle East region, in general, is still an underdeveloped market when it comes to certain technologies; particularly BPM.

They're still not into the structure scheme that you have in Europe or the U.S. At the end of the day, if a bank adopts a BPM engine, the scale of the licensing, the structure and even the usability of the platform is way higher. The number of transactions that a local bank does is less than a number of transactions that an international bank does. 

The other point is largely speaking, BPM here is very fragmented. It's either some people do the design only and the other side only does the implementation or execution without paying attention to the business design of flows. It doesn't go coherently as it does in Europe or the U.S. It doesn't go in a full-fledged cycle where you actually start with the design and move forward and make your organization agile.

Aside from that, I think that the vendors are not interested in largely investing in the technical support in the region because they are not as busy as in other regions. The thing that maybe ARIS has the edge on in the region is that they have a couple of strong partners here in the region. The vendor themselves are not fully available but the partners are really strong. The firm I used to work with, prior to joining PwC, used to handle level one and level two technical issues of various regions. When it comes to ARIS, that's the only edge I would say that has over the other competitors. 

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup is straightforward. I would say it's one of the easiest tools to navigate. It gives a big margin of freedom. You can lose track if you don't know what you're doing. I would say the ARIS team should have an easier standard filter where people can start at a novice level of the application rather than open the whole potential at once because people can get lost. That's an aspect that needs improvement. 

It has a structured way to do the architecture and it forces you to start with the metamodel and move from there within a certain architectural design cycle. While ARIS is very simple and easy, the potential is huge and people tend to lose focus.

What other advice do I have?

Don't be fooled by the potential, take it slow and step by step. It's a long journey, to be honest, to adopt a BPM engine. Involve your IT team, don't look at it from only a business design because the tool itself is meaningless unless you combine it with web method.

Skew the design and make sure that the business elements that you're designing have actual merit in your back-end legacy; or that you can actually create a certain form to fill whatever gap you need to be filled. Otherwise, it's just a fancy way to design what you can change that into.

If you are buying ARIS only to map your processes, you're better off with Visio. I know it's more labor-intensive, but don't make that investment. Every vendor comes with a unique feature. For example, Pega is very powerful when it comes to execution. It helps you come up with the structure of your architecture easier than ARIS does. They have a unique approach to their platform. One platform covers the design and execution. 

Discard the brand name because the only feature that ARIS has that other tools don't is the process architecture itself, the design elements. However, in terms of the execution, you cannot do anything with ARIS. It doesn't add value. 

I would rate it a nine out of ten. 

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