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Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics vs WhereScape RED comparison

 

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Categories and Ranking

Pentaho Data Integration an...
Ranking in Data Integration
30th
Average Rating
8.0
Number of Reviews
51
Ranking in other categories
No ranking in other categories
WhereScape RED
Ranking in Data Integration
49th
Average Rating
8.2
Number of Reviews
15
Ranking in other categories
No ranking in other categories
 

Mindshare comparison

As of November 2024, in the Data Integration category, the mindshare of Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics is 1.4%, up from 0.5% compared to the previous year. The mindshare of WhereScape RED is 1.0%, down from 1.1% compared to the previous year. It is calculated based on PeerSpot user engagement data.
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Featured Reviews

Jacopo Zaccariotto - PeerSpot reviewer
Apr 5, 2022
The drag-and-drop interface makes it easier to use than some competing products
It's difficult to use custom code. Implementing a pipeline with pre-built blocks is straightforward, but it's harder to insert custom code inside the pre-built blocks. The web interface is rusty, and the biggest problem with Pentaho is debugging and troubleshooting. It isn't easy to build the pipeline incrementally. At least in our case, it's hard to find a way to execute step by step in the debugging mode. Repository management is also a shortcoming, but I'm not sure if that's just a limitation of the free version. I'm not sure if Pentaho can use an external repository. It's a flat-file repository inside a virtual machine. Back in the day, we would want to deploy this repository on a database. Pentaho's data management covers ingestion and insights but I'm not sure if it's end-to-end management—at least not in the free version we are using—because some of the intermediate steps are missing, like data cataloging and data governance features. This is the weak spot of our Pentaho version.
SM
Jul 9, 2021
Quick to set up, flexible, and stable
The scheduling part I don't like due to the fact that it allows you to schedule as a parent and child and other things, however, the error trackability has to be a little more user-friendly. It's also not user-friendly in the sense that it loads all the jobs and there are not enough filters so that it doesn't need to load everything. If the job fails, you don't get any type of alert or email. It would be ideal if there was some sort of automated alert message. Technical support isn't the best. It would be ideal if we understood how to do it in a card exception regarding exclusion, where the card is captured separately rather than filling the whole process on the data inbound side. Certain workloads like this are organized in such a way where you seem to be doubling the work as opposed to streamlining the process.

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We asked business professionals to review the solutions they use. Here are some excerpts of what they said:
 

Pros

"The solution has a free to use community version."
"The amount of data that it loads and processes is good."
"The product is user-friendly and intuitive"
"The fact that it's a low-code solution is valuable. It's good for more junior people who may not be as experienced with programming."
"Pentaho Data Integration is quite simple to learn, and there is a lot of information available online."
"It is easy to use, install, and start working with."
"Its drag-and-drop interface lets me and my team implement all the solutions that we need in our company very quickly. It's a very good tool for that."
"The solution offers features for data integration and migration. Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics allows the integration of multiple data sources into one. The product is user-friendly and intuitive to use for almost any business."
"WhereScape RED has improved our business's ability to generate needed reporting without requiring a large team of developers to manually code all of the necessary plumbing."
"RED generates comprehensive documentation and regenerates it as quickly as things changes, but it also provides impact documentation."
"Naturally produces a way to easily debug your DW data solutions."
"I like the data vault implementations."
"WhereScape's deployment package is a fantastic feature. The application allows for selecting specific objects that you would like to deploy from one environment to another rather than deploying the entire database."
"I found the initial setup very easy."
"This is a fantastically robust DW tool that will make you at least 10 times faster in producing a DW."
"Data transformations and rollups are easy to accomplish."
 

Cons

"The performance could be improved. If they could have analytics perform well on large volumes, that would be a big deal for our products."
"I would like to see support for some additional cloud sources. It doesn't support Azure, for example. I was trying to do a PoC with Azure the other day but it seems they don't support it."
"Lumada could have more native connectors with other vendors, such as Google BigQuery, Microsoft OneDrive, Jira systems, and Facebook or Instagram. We would like to gather data from modern platforms using Lumada, which is a better approach. As a comparison, if you open Power BI to retrieve data, then you can get data from many vendors with cloud-native connectors, such as Azure, AWS, Google BigQuery, and Athena Redshift. Lumada should have more native connectors to help us and facilitate our job in gathering information from these new modern infrastructures and tools."
"As far as I remember, not all connectors worked very well. They can add more connectors and more drivers to the process to integrate with more flows."
"​I work with the Community Edition, therefore I do not have support. There was an issue that I could not resolve with community support.​"
"The reporting definitely needs improvement. There are a lot of general, basic features that it doesn't have. A simple feature you would expect a reporting tool to have is the ability to search the repository for a report. It doesn't even have that capability. That's been a feature that we've been asking for since the beginning and it hasn't been implemented yet."
"Although it is a low-code solution with a graphical interface, often the error messages that you get are of the type that a developer would be happy with. You get a big stack of red text and Java errors displayed on the screen, and less technical people can get intimidated by that. It can be a bit intimidating to get a wall of red error messages displayed. Other graphical tools that are focused at the power user level provide a much more user-friendly experience in dealing with your exceptions and guiding the user into where they've made the mistake."
"​There is not a data quality or MDM solution in the Pentaho DI suite.​"
"The ability to execute SSIS projects within WhereScape would be nice because we have a lot of packages that are too cumbersome to recreate."
"No support for change data capture or delta detection - that must be custom coded ."
"Improve the object renaming ability (it works, but it could be more automated)."
"Customization could be better."
"Technical support isn't the best."
"Jobs cannot be deleted via the deployment package. When deploying from dev to QA or production, a job has to be retired. The job has to be manually removed from the target environment."
"The scheduled jobs which are run by the WhereScape scheduler seem to be a strangely separate animal. Unlike all other WhereScape objects, jobs cannot be added to WhereScape projects. Also, unlike all other objects, jobs also cannot be deleted using a WhereScape deployment application."
"They need a more robust support center. It has been a bit difficult to find solutions to problems that are out-of-the-box."
 

Pricing and Cost Advice

"I use it because it is free. I download from their page for free. I don't have to pay for a license. With other tools, I have to pay for the licenses. That is why I use Pentaho."
"I mostly used the open-source version. I didn't work with a license."
"I think Lumada's price is fair compared to some of the others, like BusinessObjects, which is was the other thing that I used at my previous job. BusinessObject's price was more reasonable before SAP acquired it. They jacked the price up significantly. Oracle's OBIEE tool was also prohibitively expensive."
"Sometimes we provide the licenses or the customer can procure their own licenses. Previously, we had an enterprise license. Currently, we are on a community license as this is adequate for our needs."
"When we first started with it, it was much cheaper. It has gone up drastically, especially since Hitachi bought out Pentaho."
"The price of the regular version is not reasonable and it should be lower."
"For most development tasks, the Enterprise edition should be sufficient. It depends on the type of support that you require for your production environment."
"The solution reduced our ETL development time by a lot because a whole project used to take about a month to get done previously. After having Lumada, it took just a week. For a big company in Brazil, it saves a team at least $10,000 a month."
"Our company purchased a corporate unlimited license."
"Speed to market of a warehouse solution at a relatively inexpensive price point."
"Factor in the price of specialized consulting who know this product. They're hard to find and expensive."
"ROI is at least 10 times."
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Top Industries

By visitors reading reviews
Financial Services Firm
23%
Computer Software Company
14%
Government
7%
Retailer
5%
Financial Services Firm
17%
Government
10%
Insurance Company
9%
Manufacturing Company
9%
 

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Questions from the Community

Which ETL tool would you recommend to populate data from OLTP to OLAP?
Hi Rajneesh, yes here is the feature comparison between the community and enterprise edition : https://www.hitachivantara.com/en-us/pdf/brochure/leverage-open-source-benefits-with-assurance-of-hita...
What do you think can be improved with Hitachi Lumada Data Integrations?
In my opinion, the reporting side of this tool needs serious improvements. In my previous company, we worked with Hitachi Lumada Data Integration and while it does a good job for what it’s worth, ...
What do you use Hitachi Lumada Data Integrations for most frequently?
My company has used this product to transform data from databases, CSV files, and flat files. It really does a good job. We were most satisfied with the results in terms of how many people could us...
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Hitachi Lumada Data Integration, Kettle, Pentaho Data Integration
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66Controls, Providential Revenue Agency of Ro Negro, NOAA Information Systems, Swiss Real Estate Institute
British American Tobacco, Cornell University, Allianz Benelux, Finnair, Solarwinds and many more.
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