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Storage Engineer at Bank of NY
Real User
We save a lot because of the deduplication and compression
Pros and Cons
  • "It has the ability to bring up disaster recovery quickly."
  • "The toughest thing that we have right now is a cabling issue. There are so many that you need to connect."
  • "I would like to see more S3 integration with other vendors, objects, or instruments."

What is our primary use case?

We use it for cloud. We have a big VMware environment with CIFS, NFS, and other applications. Most of the data is on NetApp.

How has it helped my organization?

It has the ability to bring up disaster recovery quickly.

What is most valuable?

  • High availability
  • Deduplication
  • Compression
  • Encryption

What needs improvement?

The toughest thing that we have right now is a cabling issue. There are so many that you need to connect.

I would like to see more S3 integration with other vendors, objects, or instruments. We are a big Dell EMC shop and would like to have this integration.

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What do I think about the stability of the solution?

It is very stable. Given you have so many nodes in a cluster, the volumes, connections, and lifts can be moved anywhere within the cluster.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

It is better than some of the other solutions that we have used. It is easy to expand nodes.

How are customer service and support?

We are a premiere customer. When we call, we get someone on right away.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We have grown with NetApp. As they grow, we grow.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup was straightforward, but there is some complexity. 

What about the implementation team?

We used professional services from NetApp for the deployment. Our experience with them was good.

What was our ROI?

We save a lot because of the deduplication and compression.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

We have a mixture of NetApp and Dell EMC.

What other advice do I have?

NetApp does NAS well and better than other vendors.

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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Technical Director at Venn IT Solutions
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Reseller
The stability, and the scalability, and the way it performs has been excellent
Pros and Cons
  • "The stability of our ONTAP system has been awesome over the last four to five years, particularly with the software. The controls have been excellent as well. We recently went through a view of all of our systems and found a number of them had been up, over three years without any sort of reboots or downtime. We have been very happy with the stability of the systems."
  • "The additional features I would like to see in ONTAP, and NetApp in general would probably be the single pane of glass software. Over the years that's probably the biggest area that we've struggled with. NetApp has had a lot of good products, but a lot of them haven't necessarily seamlessly integrated with each other and you have to go to multiple management consoles to manage their software or their hardware. From a customer point of view, I think that single pane of glass where you could just add modules and enable functionality would be the most beneficial thing that NetApp could add."

What is our primary use case?

Our primary use is predominately NFS data stores, iSCSI LUNs for SQL databases, and CIFS file share.

How has it helped my organization?

I think the biggest improvement we've had over the years where ONTAP has improved the efficiency of it. Organization is due to storage efficiency. They can do deduplication, which is greatly reduced our on disc storage. More recently compaction and certainly in the past have had compression. So the ability to use those compression techniques and then be able to mirror that to an external site and retain the compression techniques. The storage that it does save has been invaluable because we can then buy less storage, have less storage being transferred across the WAN, particularly where the DR sites, geographically dispersed over literally thousands of kilometers.

We use ONTAP for our ERP. It's a mission-critical application that runs 24/7. It needs to be online and responsive all the time. Our last reboot of one of the applications, the server had been up 1200 days, and it was more of periodic maintenance. Since it had been up over three years we thought we might just reboot it just to be sure, but aside from that, it runs 24/7 on an SSD aggregate. Performance is great and stability has been awesome.


We use ONTAP to clone databases and from those clone databases, we use data mining to pull out data from near real-time data sets. That's where the Snapshot and cloning features have come in.

ONTAP has reduced our overall cost of on-premise storage tenfold. We were looking at upgrades and had to evaluate another vendor. Once we took into account the Snapshot and cloning capabilities that ONTAP gives us, we literally would have bought maybe ten to fifteen times the storage we're currently using in the other vendor's storage. Obviously, that wasn't going to be economically viable. The decision was made to retain the ONTAP code base and just upgrade the existing hardware.

What is most valuable?

Definitely the most valuable features for ONTAP that we've come across are the Snapshot and cloning technologies. We take regular scheduled snapshots and from that we provision clones to SQL databases, which means that we can run multi-terabyte databases within literally minutes and do data analytics against those databases, pull them all down, and restart that process as many times as we like. It's a great use case because we used to be able to do that process every one to two weeks, but due to the restore procedure it would take twelve to sixteen hours to get any of those databases out back. Now, we can provision that in literally minutes. We can run that process a lot more frequently and get the answers back a lot more often.

We've been able to save a lot of space in our NetApp storage mostly due to the deduplication engine that runs. Particularly in our VM datastores, we're looking up to 70 to 80 percent of space efficiency being achieved through that. Add into that compression and now compaction with the new ONTAP version it's certainly pushing those figures more up to 80 to 90 percent.

What needs improvement?

The additional features I would like to see in ONTAP, and NetApp would probably be the single pane of glass software. Over the years that's probably the biggest area that we've struggled with. NetApp has had a lot of good products, but a lot of them haven't necessarily seamlessly integrated with each other and you have to go to multiple management consoles to manage their software or their hardware. From a customer point of view, I think that single pane of glass where you could just add modules and enable functionality would be the most beneficial thing that NetApp could add.

For how long have I used the solution?

One to three years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The stability of our ONTAP system has been awesome over the last four to five years, particularly with the software. The controls have been excellent as well. We recently went through a view of all of our systems and found a number of them had been up, over three years without any sort of reboots or downtime. We have been very happy with the stability of the systems.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

The scalability of the systems has been excellent since the introduction of ONTAP cluster mode. Traditionally we had 7-mode, and once we upgraded to cluster-mode and found that we can scale nodes transparently, moving volumes around without disruption to the core systems have been really good and makes migrations easy as well.

How is customer service and technical support?

NetApp Tech support has been very good on their ONTAP hardware and their ONTAP OS itself. The biggest area that we found it lacking is being around more of the support for the software the products outside of ONTAP, but the ONTAP support itself has been excellent.

What other advice do I have?

I would rate ONTAP around about eight out of ten. The main reason for that is because I believe nothing can have a ten out of ten. Nothing's perfect. There is always room for improvement. The only reason I don't give it a nine is multi-terabyte databases of regular support. The product itself now is excellent. The stability, and the scalability, and the way it performs has been excellent.

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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SystemsE2ad9 - PeerSpot reviewer
Systems Engineer at a tech services company with 10,001+ employees
MSP
Switching workloads from one data center to the other has been great. We have had some issues with the architecture, because of the complex setup with the MetroCluster.
Pros and Cons
  • "We have been using it for our entire environment, so we use it in file shares and in our VDI environment, at least for user data. That has reduced our user login times by about 50 percent."
  • "Going forward, I want to see a simplified deployment and more straightforward recommendations on what is required for it."

How has it helped my organization?

We have been using it for our entire environment, so we use it in file shares and in our VDI environment, at least for user data. That has reduced our user login times by about 50 percent. This has helped, and probably been one of the biggest benefits that we've recently seen, getting people's logins down to 45 seconds from more than two minutes. It's helped with our backups times, and keeping our backup windows in compliance.

What is most valuable?

The main thing has been performance, but we're hoping that we also get there on the reliability section (with the MetroCluster), so we don't have any disasters. The performance has been so good on it. Even some of their tests that we're doing, switching workloads from one data center to the other, has been great.

What needs improvement?

While its performance has been great, the configuration with the MetroCluster has been a bit of a headache. We've been working through it. However, it's a bit of a tedious process. With the MetroCluster, in theory, we should have good reliability. We have been having some issues just the finishing the configuration. Some of our DR tests have been not successful, so it's been a little troubling.

We have had some issues with the architecture, because of the complex setup with the MetroCluster. While it is getting there, we've had problems. We've had some outages trying to get the system up, so it hasn't been very good, but I'm hoping we get there. This does not seem like it's necessarily a NetApp issue, but the architecting of it has been a little rough.

Going forward, I want to see a simplified deployment and more straightforward recommendations on what is required for it. They're a little vague, and we've had some issues where we would like to have a tool that can scan the environment and find issues before deployment, fixing issues. So, when we're deploying it, we're not running into problems. Simplification would definitely help.

For how long have I used the solution?

Less than one year.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The system stability has been good. 

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

We haven't had it too long, so we haven't needed to scale it up. It does look pretty easy. We have MetroCluster, then we have the All Flash FAS and the new 8200 hybrid. 

We've been able to scale out the 8200, which has been beneficial, as we offload some of the older, slower storage to it. We have quite a bit of room to grow by adding new nodes into it. Right now, we only have two-node clusters, which have been great to upgrade, and not an issue.

How are customer service and technical support?

Technical support has been good, but since we're using MetroCluster IP, we've been a little bleeding edge. This has been a bit of a problem because there are not as many people who are knowledgeable in it. We have had some issues getting people who have good knowledge on the subject, which has been why we've had some of the issues that we've had. A lot of it is just foundation and architecting. We've had some issues with existing equipment compatibility issues that we didn't really discover in the initial planning. The technical support has been good, but it has been a bit of a slow process.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We ran out of space with our old storage. We didn't have any full DR redundancy because we didn't have enough space to do a DR scenario. The main reasons to upgrade: Not enough space, we needed to upgrade, and NetApp happened to be a cheaper solution than some of the competitors.

We migrated from Dell EMC storage, where did have some issues with capacity in the IOPS, and NetApp was the cheapest solution. We got more performance and bang for our buck, so we moved over to the NetApp All Flash system. 

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup was pretty simple, just for the basics. However, when we tried to scale out and run it in production, that's when we ran into issues. Because we were sold Fibre Channel MetroCluster, then that ended up not working for our situation, we had to buy more equipment and switch it over to MetroCluster IP. This was smooth at first, but then the deployment on production was much longer process.

What about the implementation team?

All the support and deployment has been primarily from NetApp. We do have a consultant who has been assisting with some of the networking pieces, but most of the actual storage is all done with NetApp. While they've been knowledgeable, it's a complex configuration, and sometimes we've had some issues with them giving us solid answers on which direction we should go. They'll help us do something, but they don't want to give too much architecting information. That's been a bit of a headache for us. They said it was going to take 60 days, and it's been six months and we're still not fully rolled out.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

We went through a reseller to buy the solution.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

We looked at just Dell EMC and NetApp. Those were the two main choices, as they are similar products with similar performance. We could see Dell EMC was definitely more expensive, but it also had a more complex configuration. On paper, NetApp seemed cheaper and a bit simpler, which was one of the main reasons that we moved over. The performance for cost ratio was really interesting.

What other advice do I have?

I would recommend doing your homework and make sure the environment is prepped before getting it set up. Make sure you have any prerequisites and your equipment's compatible: The distance between data centers is the networking pieces being compatible with the all-flash MetroCluster. If you have any issues there, you're going to have constant headaches with the configuration. The main piece is make sure you have all your ducks in a row on your networking gear, make sure it's compatible, and fix the issues early before you start deploying.

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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reviewer1437054 - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior Analyst at a manufacturing company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Real User
Stable data management with excellent MFS reporting
Pros and Cons
  • "The MFS report is the best feature for us."
  • "I believe that the next release should be a bit cheaper."

What is our primary use case?

As an automotive company, we are able to run some applications on NetApp ONTAP.

What is most valuable?

The MFS report is the best feature for us.

What needs improvement?

I believe that the next release should be a bit cheaper.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using this solution for about ten years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

NetApp is very stable, this is why we went with this product.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

This is a scalable solution.

How are customer service and support?

Support is very good. They are available 24/7 and respond within four hours.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We used EMC in the past. It was good at the time, but it was crashing a lot. This is why we switched to NetApp.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup is straightforward as it is done by NetApp themselves and it does not require any maintenance on our side.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

ONTAP is expensive, but most storage systems are now-a-days and everything is included with the license - there are no additional fees.

What other advice do I have?

This is a stable environment that is easy to manage and good to work with - eight out of ten.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

Hybrid Cloud
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reviewer1469070 - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior IT-Ingenieur at a tech services company with 501-1,000 employees
Real User
You can achieve a very high IOPS rating with it along of deep customization capabilities
Pros and Cons
  • "The most valuable feature is the very high IOPS rating which you can achieve with it."

    What is our primary use case?

    We use NetApp ONTAP for everything. Because it is hybrid, we use it in a private cloud environment and in our shared environment with a very broad range of IOPS requirements, which means we use it as the basis for our VMware environments and as a storage for databases. In the backup area, we use it with HDDs—with the cheaper ones—and for backup target as well. So, we use it basically for everything. 

    How has it helped my organization?

    Unifyed the management, the automation, the monitoring and accounting in the storage landscape. Less administrators in the operation and internal development are able to take care of most issues.

    What is most valuable?

    The most valuable feature is the very high IOPS rating which you can achieve with it and the customization capabilities of the storage are very feature rich. 

    What needs improvement?

    I cannot think of any technical improvements or features we're missing right now. The encryption on transport was a feature we wanted, which is supported by ONTAP, starting with ONTAP 9.8. Being conservativ and carefull, until now we use mainly 9.7. Until version 9.7 only encryption on rest, meaning the storage volumes itself could be encrypted. Starting to upgrade to 9.8  we will be able to encrypt the traffic as well between the storage and the client OS. 

    For how long have I used the solution?

    I have been working with NetApp ONTAP for a decade. 

    What do I think about the stability of the solution?

    I would say it's really stable. We have almost no downtime because of storage outage. Sometimes the network interface fails, but I have almost nothing negative to mention about the storage itself, with the controller. 

    What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

    This solution is scalable. We are satisfied with this because, recently, NetApp introduced smaller devices: for example, the C190. One of the complaints we had earlier, within the company, was that small pieces were not available. There weren't really any entry options for private cloud environments, which are isolated from each other and don't require very big machines, but less storage amount (TBs). In the past year or two, there have been small machines as well. This means that in the lower side, the entry side, we have a lot of new possibilities within NetApp. And on the other side, when we have already implemented something, we can just add to our cluster to expand the capacity, which we are satisfied with. 

    How are customer service and support?

    Our relationship with NetApp has been alive for more than a decade, and it's a very good relationship. We have great support and I can't complain about it at all. We also regularly take advantage of the NetApp learning offerings, workshops and trainings.

    How would you rate customer service and support?

    Positive

    How was the initial setup?

    The initial setup is easy for us because we have already been doing it for many years. We have a lot of automated stuff around it—using Ansible, for example—and we use templates and skilled professionals when we implement something. These make this solution easy for us to implement. 

    Also, the upgrades are very well planned and straightforward. 

    What about the implementation team?

    We mostly purchase professional services with the products. They are well trained and professional. It minimizes the risk and the time we would need to invest when implementing new storages ourself.

    What other advice do I have?

    We don't use the latest update. We are always at least one release back because we are very conservative and don't want to be the testers for new updates, but this means that we aren't using the latest features. Version 9.9 or 9.10 has already been introduced, but we are starting to use 9.8. 

    To those considering working with ONTAP, I would advise starting with at least Version 9.8 (not an old operating system) because there are some really good features. For example, support for transport encryption: encrypting the traffic between the storage and the clients. Support for this starts with the 9.8 operating system and this feature is very important to have, not only to encrypt the storage itself—the so-called encryption at rest—but also to encrypt the traffic. 

    I rate NetApp ONTAP a nine out of ten. 

    Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

    Private Cloud

    If public cloud, private cloud, or hybrid cloud, which cloud provider do you use?

    Other
    Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: Implementer and service provider.
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    Storage Consultant at a comms service provider with 10,001+ employees
    Consultant
    We are saving more disk space which saves us more money
    Pros and Cons
    • "We are saving more disk space which saves us more money."

      What is our primary use case?

      • SnapVaulting
      • SnapMirroring
      • Backing up

      How has it helped my organization?

      We are saving more disk space which saves us more money.

      What is most valuable?

      Aggregate data, compaction, and deduplication for ONTAP are its most valuable features, so we can save space.

      For how long have I used the solution?

      More than five years.

      What do I think about the stability of the solution?

      It is stable.

      How are customer service and technical support?

      We haven't had any issues with the technical support. When we've used the technical support, they have been helpful.

      Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

      Previously, we have 7-Mode technology. Now, we have cDOT. We changed because now we can move volumes without any interruptions.

      How was the initial setup?

      The initial setup was straightforward.

      What about the implementation team?

      We deployed the solution ourselves.

      What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

      They could reduce the price.

      Which other solutions did I evaluate?

      We looked at NetApp and Dell EMC. We chose NetApp because it was cheaper, more scalable and ordered.

      What other advice do I have?

      It is a robust product. If you buy it, you will have no issues.

      Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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      Infrastr6375 - PeerSpot reviewer
      Infrastructure Engineer at a financial services firm with 1,001-5,000 employees
      Real User
      new release has a lot of features that save us space and costs
      Pros and Cons
      • "It's very fast, NetApp is always dependable, so if we have an issue, they're very responsive."
      • "They could lower prices so my management doesn't complain about cost"

      What is our primary use case?

      I work for an oil and gas company. We go out to the field and get oil from the ground. The primary use case is for development and preparation for production. 

      How has it helped my organization?

      We're able to gather information, and put it all together to find out where the best place to drill would be. Also, speed. Our databases work a lot faster, probably 18 or 20 percent faster than previously. The speed has increased the performance. 

      My colleagues get their information files without bringing down SQL.

      What is most valuable?

      It's very fast, NetApp is always dependable, so if we have an issue, they're very responsive.

      The new release has a lot of features that will save us space and therefore, money. The inline deduplication and compression are really nice. 

      What needs improvement?

      They could lower prices so my management doesn't complain about cost. Other than that, I'm always happy with the releases. 

      What do I think about the stability of the solution?

      It's 100 percent. We've never had any issues with it. 

      What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

      It's 100 percent. It's easy to add additional storage disks. 

      How are customer service and technical support?

      I would rate tech support at nine-plus out of ten. It's not a ten because I have to wait when I call. I can wait for 20, 30 minutes before I get to somebody who can actually help me. Normally NetApp identifies the issue before I get out of bed and has a solution already planned. 

      Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

      We were coming to end-of-life with our old solution, and this was the next generation that was available, so we would have upgraded regardless. This was the best option.

      How was the initial setup?

      It was straightforward. It's built on previous NetApp operating systems. I understood it without knowing the new generation. 

      What about the implementation team?

      We used NetApp Professional Services, and it was very good. I worked with them beforehand and gave them my plan. Any corrections were made beforehand. We've done it twice and it's been very good.

      What was our ROI?

      I know they have saved time, and time equals money. We also have more space in the data center. It's a smaller footprint by half a rack. That's a lot less money and a lot less cooling.

      Which other solutions did I evaluate?

      We looked at Dell EMC, but we would never go with them. They don't have good support and it's gotten worse over the years since Dell and EMC merged. Instead of two bad support systems, they have now combined it into one huge, bad support system. NetApp's technical support and proven stability are a lot better than them. We've been using NetApp for around 15 years and we've always had good results with it.

      What other advice do I have?

      It's an advance from what we used before, and a lot faster. It doesn't take a lot of learning to start using it.

      Take a look at NetApp and get the Professional Services involved. If you're coming from a different vendor, they'll be able to assist with getting the data moved over. That would be my main point.

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      ITManage5bab - PeerSpot reviewer
      IT Manager at a non-tech company
      Real User
      The disks are stable and our data is safe
      Pros and Cons
      • "If we want to change things in models, such as add, replace, and adjust to another client, it is very easy."
      • "They have very good tech support who always answers our questions and troubleshoots our issues. They're great."
      • "I would like more security against the malwares, spyware, and ransomware. I feel like ONTAP is a bit lacking in this area."

      What is our primary use case?

      It is the easiest way to backup, restore data, and access data along with keep it secure. It has an easy interface to manage all the data.

      How has it helped my organization?

      It has made it easy to deal with the scalability in our organization along with the mass increase of data. We avoid loss of important data and can recover it completely. NetApp has made this challenge for us easy.

      What is most valuable?

      • Saving data and backing up it, up to the minute.
      • 100% guarantee restoring data. 
      • Saving money because of the dedupe technologies.

      What needs improvement?

      I would like more security against the malwares, spyware, and ransomware. I feel like ONTAP is a bit lacking in this area.

      What do I think about the stability of the solution?

      It is very stable. You can trust NetApp almost 100% that it will work fine. The disks are stable and our data is safe with NetApp.

      What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

      If we want to change things in models, such as add, replace, and adjust to another client, it is very easy. This is a good thing.

      How are customer service and technical support?

      They have very good tech support who always answers our questions and troubleshoots our issues. They're great. It is easy to escalate, and they have friendly people. They will help you all the time, every hour in a day.

      Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

      NetApp was our first storage solution.

      How was the initial setup?

      The initial setup was straightforward.

      What about the implementation team?

      We used Encore Technology Group. Our experience was not very good as they lost data, which was a critical mistake for us. They also did not respond in time.

      What was our ROI?

      Because of the dedupe technologies and Data ONTAP servers, we have saved 20% on hardware. This is a lot of money for us.

      What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

      While it is going to cost a lot of money, their technologies is worth it.

      Which other solutions did I evaluate?

      We also considered HPE and IBM, but NetApp was the cheapest, friendliest, and most accessible.

      What other advice do I have?

      It is friendly to use and manage. They are very good in backup and restoring 100% of things up to the minute. It's very easy for regular users. 

      Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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