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SystemsE2ad9 - PeerSpot reviewer
Systems Engineer at a tech services company with 10,001+ employees
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Switching workloads from one data center to the other has been great. We have had some issues with the architecture, because of the complex setup with the MetroCluster.
Pros and Cons
  • "We have been using it for our entire environment, so we use it in file shares and in our VDI environment, at least for user data. That has reduced our user login times by about 50 percent."
  • "Going forward, I want to see a simplified deployment and more straightforward recommendations on what is required for it."

How has it helped my organization?

We have been using it for our entire environment, so we use it in file shares and in our VDI environment, at least for user data. That has reduced our user login times by about 50 percent. This has helped, and probably been one of the biggest benefits that we've recently seen, getting people's logins down to 45 seconds from more than two minutes. It's helped with our backups times, and keeping our backup windows in compliance.

What is most valuable?

The main thing has been performance, but we're hoping that we also get there on the reliability section (with the MetroCluster), so we don't have any disasters. The performance has been so good on it. Even some of their tests that we're doing, switching workloads from one data center to the other, has been great.

What needs improvement?

While its performance has been great, the configuration with the MetroCluster has been a bit of a headache. We've been working through it. However, it's a bit of a tedious process. With the MetroCluster, in theory, we should have good reliability. We have been having some issues just the finishing the configuration. Some of our DR tests have been not successful, so it's been a little troubling.

We have had some issues with the architecture, because of the complex setup with the MetroCluster. While it is getting there, we've had problems. We've had some outages trying to get the system up, so it hasn't been very good, but I'm hoping we get there. This does not seem like it's necessarily a NetApp issue, but the architecting of it has been a little rough.

Going forward, I want to see a simplified deployment and more straightforward recommendations on what is required for it. They're a little vague, and we've had some issues where we would like to have a tool that can scan the environment and find issues before deployment, fixing issues. So, when we're deploying it, we're not running into problems. Simplification would definitely help.

For how long have I used the solution?

Less than one year.
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What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The system stability has been good. 

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

We haven't had it too long, so we haven't needed to scale it up. It does look pretty easy. We have MetroCluster, then we have the All Flash FAS and the new 8200 hybrid. 

We've been able to scale out the 8200, which has been beneficial, as we offload some of the older, slower storage to it. We have quite a bit of room to grow by adding new nodes into it. Right now, we only have two-node clusters, which have been great to upgrade, and not an issue.

How are customer service and support?

Technical support has been good, but since we're using MetroCluster IP, we've been a little bleeding edge. This has been a bit of a problem because there are not as many people who are knowledgeable in it. We have had some issues getting people who have good knowledge on the subject, which has been why we've had some of the issues that we've had. A lot of it is just foundation and architecting. We've had some issues with existing equipment compatibility issues that we didn't really discover in the initial planning. The technical support has been good, but it has been a bit of a slow process.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We ran out of space with our old storage. We didn't have any full DR redundancy because we didn't have enough space to do a DR scenario. The main reasons to upgrade: Not enough space, we needed to upgrade, and NetApp happened to be a cheaper solution than some of the competitors.

We migrated from Dell EMC storage, where did have some issues with capacity in the IOPS, and NetApp was the cheapest solution. We got more performance and bang for our buck, so we moved over to the NetApp All Flash system. 

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup was pretty simple, just for the basics. However, when we tried to scale out and run it in production, that's when we ran into issues. Because we were sold Fibre Channel MetroCluster, then that ended up not working for our situation, we had to buy more equipment and switch it over to MetroCluster IP. This was smooth at first, but then the deployment on production was much longer process.

What about the implementation team?

All the support and deployment has been primarily from NetApp. We do have a consultant who has been assisting with some of the networking pieces, but most of the actual storage is all done with NetApp. While they've been knowledgeable, it's a complex configuration, and sometimes we've had some issues with them giving us solid answers on which direction we should go. They'll help us do something, but they don't want to give too much architecting information. That's been a bit of a headache for us. They said it was going to take 60 days, and it's been six months and we're still not fully rolled out.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

We went through a reseller to buy the solution.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

We looked at just Dell EMC and NetApp. Those were the two main choices, as they are similar products with similar performance. We could see Dell EMC was definitely more expensive, but it also had a more complex configuration. On paper, NetApp seemed cheaper and a bit simpler, which was one of the main reasons that we moved over. The performance for cost ratio was really interesting.

What other advice do I have?

I would recommend doing your homework and make sure the environment is prepped before getting it set up. Make sure you have any prerequisites and your equipment's compatible: The distance between data centers is the networking pieces being compatible with the all-flash MetroCluster. If you have any issues there, you're going to have constant headaches with the configuration. The main piece is make sure you have all your ducks in a row on your networking gear, make sure it's compatible, and fix the issues early before you start deploying.

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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reviewer1437054 - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior Analyst at a manufacturing company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Real User
Stable data management with excellent MFS reporting
Pros and Cons
  • "The MFS report is the best feature for us."
  • "I believe that the next release should be a bit cheaper."

What is our primary use case?

As an automotive company, we are able to run some applications on NetApp ONTAP.

What is most valuable?

The MFS report is the best feature for us.

What needs improvement?

I believe that the next release should be a bit cheaper.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using this solution for about ten years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

NetApp is very stable, this is why we went with this product.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

This is a scalable solution.

How are customer service and support?

Support is very good. They are available 24/7 and respond within four hours.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We used EMC in the past. It was good at the time, but it was crashing a lot. This is why we switched to NetApp.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup is straightforward as it is done by NetApp themselves and it does not require any maintenance on our side.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

ONTAP is expensive, but most storage systems are now-a-days and everything is included with the license - there are no additional fees.

What other advice do I have?

This is a stable environment that is easy to manage and good to work with - eight out of ten.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

Hybrid Cloud
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reviewer1469070 - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior IT-Ingenieur at a tech services company with 501-1,000 employees
Real User
You can achieve a very high IOPS rating with it along of deep customization capabilities
Pros and Cons
  • "The most valuable feature is the very high IOPS rating which you can achieve with it."

    What is our primary use case?

    We use NetApp ONTAP for everything. Because it is hybrid, we use it in a private cloud environment and in our shared environment with a very broad range of IOPS requirements, which means we use it as the basis for our VMware environments and as a storage for databases. In the backup area, we use it with HDDs—with the cheaper ones—and for backup target as well. So, we use it basically for everything. 

    How has it helped my organization?

    Unifyed the management, the automation, the monitoring and accounting in the storage landscape. Less administrators in the operation and internal development are able to take care of most issues.

    What is most valuable?

    The most valuable feature is the very high IOPS rating which you can achieve with it and the customization capabilities of the storage are very feature rich. 

    What needs improvement?

    I cannot think of any technical improvements or features we're missing right now. The encryption on transport was a feature we wanted, which is supported by ONTAP, starting with ONTAP 9.8. Being conservativ and carefull, until now we use mainly 9.7. Until version 9.7 only encryption on rest, meaning the storage volumes itself could be encrypted. Starting to upgrade to 9.8  we will be able to encrypt the traffic as well between the storage and the client OS. 

    For how long have I used the solution?

    I have been working with NetApp ONTAP for a decade. 

    What do I think about the stability of the solution?

    I would say it's really stable. We have almost no downtime because of storage outage. Sometimes the network interface fails, but I have almost nothing negative to mention about the storage itself, with the controller. 

    What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

    This solution is scalable. We are satisfied with this because, recently, NetApp introduced smaller devices: for example, the C190. One of the complaints we had earlier, within the company, was that small pieces were not available. There weren't really any entry options for private cloud environments, which are isolated from each other and don't require very big machines, but less storage amount (TBs). In the past year or two, there have been small machines as well. This means that in the lower side, the entry side, we have a lot of new possibilities within NetApp. And on the other side, when we have already implemented something, we can just add to our cluster to expand the capacity, which we are satisfied with. 

    How are customer service and support?

    Our relationship with NetApp has been alive for more than a decade, and it's a very good relationship. We have great support and I can't complain about it at all. We also regularly take advantage of the NetApp learning offerings, workshops and trainings.

    How would you rate customer service and support?

    Positive

    How was the initial setup?

    The initial setup is easy for us because we have already been doing it for many years. We have a lot of automated stuff around it—using Ansible, for example—and we use templates and skilled professionals when we implement something. These make this solution easy for us to implement. 

    Also, the upgrades are very well planned and straightforward. 

    What about the implementation team?

    We mostly purchase professional services with the products. They are well trained and professional. It minimizes the risk and the time we would need to invest when implementing new storages ourself.

    What other advice do I have?

    We don't use the latest update. We are always at least one release back because we are very conservative and don't want to be the testers for new updates, but this means that we aren't using the latest features. Version 9.9 or 9.10 has already been introduced, but we are starting to use 9.8. 

    To those considering working with ONTAP, I would advise starting with at least Version 9.8 (not an old operating system) because there are some really good features. For example, support for transport encryption: encrypting the traffic between the storage and the clients. Support for this starts with the 9.8 operating system and this feature is very important to have, not only to encrypt the storage itself—the so-called encryption at rest—but also to encrypt the traffic. 

    I rate NetApp ONTAP a nine out of ten. 

    Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

    Private Cloud

    If public cloud, private cloud, or hybrid cloud, which cloud provider do you use?

    Other
    Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: Implementer and service provider.
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    Storage Consultant at a comms service provider with 10,001+ employees
    Consultant
    We are saving more disk space which saves us more money
    Pros and Cons
    • "We are saving more disk space which saves us more money."

      What is our primary use case?

      • SnapVaulting
      • SnapMirroring
      • Backing up

      How has it helped my organization?

      We are saving more disk space which saves us more money.

      What is most valuable?

      Aggregate data, compaction, and deduplication for ONTAP are its most valuable features, so we can save space.

      For how long have I used the solution?

      More than five years.

      What do I think about the stability of the solution?

      It is stable.

      How are customer service and technical support?

      We haven't had any issues with the technical support. When we've used the technical support, they have been helpful.

      Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

      Previously, we have 7-Mode technology. Now, we have cDOT. We changed because now we can move volumes without any interruptions.

      How was the initial setup?

      The initial setup was straightforward.

      What about the implementation team?

      We deployed the solution ourselves.

      What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

      They could reduce the price.

      Which other solutions did I evaluate?

      We looked at NetApp and Dell EMC. We chose NetApp because it was cheaper, more scalable and ordered.

      What other advice do I have?

      It is a robust product. If you buy it, you will have no issues.

      Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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      Infrastr6375 - PeerSpot reviewer
      Infrastructure Engineer at a financial services firm with 1,001-5,000 employees
      Real User
      new release has a lot of features that save us space and costs
      Pros and Cons
      • "It's very fast, NetApp is always dependable, so if we have an issue, they're very responsive."
      • "They could lower prices so my management doesn't complain about cost"

      What is our primary use case?

      I work for an oil and gas company. We go out to the field and get oil from the ground. The primary use case is for development and preparation for production. 

      How has it helped my organization?

      We're able to gather information, and put it all together to find out where the best place to drill would be. Also, speed. Our databases work a lot faster, probably 18 or 20 percent faster than previously. The speed has increased the performance. 

      My colleagues get their information files without bringing down SQL.

      What is most valuable?

      It's very fast, NetApp is always dependable, so if we have an issue, they're very responsive.

      The new release has a lot of features that will save us space and therefore, money. The inline deduplication and compression are really nice. 

      What needs improvement?

      They could lower prices so my management doesn't complain about cost. Other than that, I'm always happy with the releases. 

      What do I think about the stability of the solution?

      It's 100 percent. We've never had any issues with it. 

      What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

      It's 100 percent. It's easy to add additional storage disks. 

      How are customer service and technical support?

      I would rate tech support at nine-plus out of ten. It's not a ten because I have to wait when I call. I can wait for 20, 30 minutes before I get to somebody who can actually help me. Normally NetApp identifies the issue before I get out of bed and has a solution already planned. 

      Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

      We were coming to end-of-life with our old solution, and this was the next generation that was available, so we would have upgraded regardless. This was the best option.

      How was the initial setup?

      It was straightforward. It's built on previous NetApp operating systems. I understood it without knowing the new generation. 

      What about the implementation team?

      We used NetApp Professional Services, and it was very good. I worked with them beforehand and gave them my plan. Any corrections were made beforehand. We've done it twice and it's been very good.

      What was our ROI?

      I know they have saved time, and time equals money. We also have more space in the data center. It's a smaller footprint by half a rack. That's a lot less money and a lot less cooling.

      Which other solutions did I evaluate?

      We looked at Dell EMC, but we would never go with them. They don't have good support and it's gotten worse over the years since Dell and EMC merged. Instead of two bad support systems, they have now combined it into one huge, bad support system. NetApp's technical support and proven stability are a lot better than them. We've been using NetApp for around 15 years and we've always had good results with it.

      What other advice do I have?

      It's an advance from what we used before, and a lot faster. It doesn't take a lot of learning to start using it.

      Take a look at NetApp and get the Professional Services involved. If you're coming from a different vendor, they'll be able to assist with getting the data moved over. That would be my main point.

      Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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      ITManage5bab - PeerSpot reviewer
      IT Manager at a non-tech company
      Real User
      The disks are stable and our data is safe
      Pros and Cons
      • "If we want to change things in models, such as add, replace, and adjust to another client, it is very easy."
      • "They have very good tech support who always answers our questions and troubleshoots our issues. They're great."
      • "I would like more security against the malwares, spyware, and ransomware. I feel like ONTAP is a bit lacking in this area."

      What is our primary use case?

      It is the easiest way to backup, restore data, and access data along with keep it secure. It has an easy interface to manage all the data.

      How has it helped my organization?

      It has made it easy to deal with the scalability in our organization along with the mass increase of data. We avoid loss of important data and can recover it completely. NetApp has made this challenge for us easy.

      What is most valuable?

      • Saving data and backing up it, up to the minute.
      • 100% guarantee restoring data. 
      • Saving money because of the dedupe technologies.

      What needs improvement?

      I would like more security against the malwares, spyware, and ransomware. I feel like ONTAP is a bit lacking in this area.

      What do I think about the stability of the solution?

      It is very stable. You can trust NetApp almost 100% that it will work fine. The disks are stable and our data is safe with NetApp.

      What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

      If we want to change things in models, such as add, replace, and adjust to another client, it is very easy. This is a good thing.

      How are customer service and technical support?

      They have very good tech support who always answers our questions and troubleshoots our issues. They're great. It is easy to escalate, and they have friendly people. They will help you all the time, every hour in a day.

      Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

      NetApp was our first storage solution.

      How was the initial setup?

      The initial setup was straightforward.

      What about the implementation team?

      We used Encore Technology Group. Our experience was not very good as they lost data, which was a critical mistake for us. They also did not respond in time.

      What was our ROI?

      Because of the dedupe technologies and Data ONTAP servers, we have saved 20% on hardware. This is a lot of money for us.

      What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

      While it is going to cost a lot of money, their technologies is worth it.

      Which other solutions did I evaluate?

      We also considered HPE and IBM, but NetApp was the cheapest, friendliest, and most accessible.

      What other advice do I have?

      It is friendly to use and manage. They are very good in backup and restoring 100% of things up to the minute. It's very easy for regular users. 

      Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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      SeniorMa64e6 - PeerSpot reviewer
      Senior Manager Computer Storage at a individual & family service with 501-1,000 employees
      Real User
      The initial setup was straightforward. It came in a box ready to go.
      Pros and Cons
      • "The initial setup was straightforward. It came in a box ready to go."
      • "I would like to see Synchronize Snap mode in the next release."

      What is our primary use case?

      The primary use case is as an application file server.

      How has it helped my organization?

      It is able to restore back several points during the day if there is a production issue.

      What is most valuable?

      • Flexible consumption
      • Being able to scale as we need to
      • Data production
      • SnapMirror

      What needs improvement?

      I would like to see Synchronize Snap mode in the next release.

      What do I think about the stability of the solution?

      Stability is good. We haven't had a severe outage in years.

      What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

      Scalability is very good, especially how it has matured over the past few years in cluster mode. We can now add nodes without disruptions.

      How are customer service and technical support?

      Technical support has generally improved, especially the tickets for Cloud IQ where you are able to go through and it intelligently tells you how it has changed over time. That's pretty nice.

      Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

      Performance: We outgrew the box. Or, the support was ending. It was one of those two scenarios.

      How was the initial setup?

      The initial setup was straightforward. It came in a box ready to go.

      What about the implementation team?

      We used a reseller for the deployment, Applied Computer Solutions out of LA, who was very good. We've been using them since 1997.

      What was our ROI?

      The data compression and deduplication have kept us from buying more disks these past three years.

      What other advice do I have?

      Try it out, get your hands on it, and see what it does.

      Every year, I am impressed with the product. It has gotten better over the years with cluster mode, but it is not 100 percent perfect. There are certain technical limitations with being able to use it for SAN, but it's improving.

      Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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      it_user750540 - PeerSpot reviewer
      Admin at Centene
      Vendor
      ONTAP OS is super easy to use; failover works well

      What is most valuable?

      Definitely ONTAP. The command line. It's super easy to use.

      How has it helped my organization?

      The ONTAP is so easy to use. I can do my tasks pretty easily on there. If someone needs something quickly I can give them what they need pretty quickly.

      What needs improvement?

      The one thing I would really like to see - I don't know if they offer this or not. I know EMC has got really good: their SRDF replication is really good for keeping consistency with your backups, or the other side.

      NetApp is crash consistent. I don't know the quality of the EMC one but that one seems to work really well. EMC is primarily block storage anyway so that is what it is build for.

      What do I think about the stability of the solution?

      It's pretty stable. There have been some random crashes we have had though, from a couple weird things.

      There always seems to be some random bug in the code. If there is a random bug in the code, it seems like we have so many of these storage arrays that one of them is going to experience a crash from it. We have had a couple like that, zombie deletes, causing the controller to panic. We have had a couple weird things like that.

      What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

      Never really implemented one but it seemed to be pretty easy to scale out. If you have the money to buy one, to scale it out is nothing crazy.

      How are customer service and technical support?

      We have an in-house resource and usually, if there is something going wrong, he is the one that will handle it and give it direction. If we ever call it in we always get the front-line people and typically we don't need the front-line people. When we need support we need someone specialized, like a certain protocol or a certain aspect. Usually, that's kind of annoying, when we call in it's getting front-line people and it is an extra 30 minutes just to get to where we need to go, really.

      Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

      No, ever since I have been here at Centene, we have been using NetApp.

      Which other solutions did I evaluate?

      I know NetApp and EMC are at the top, but other than that we don't really have any. I haven't seen much for any other vendor, like Nimble or like a couple of others, we don't really deal with those.

      What other advice do I have?

      We use it for datastores, and do a little bit of SAN on it too. We use it for both, block and file storage.

      My impression of NetApp as avendor of high performance SAN storage is that it's not as good as EMC. I don't have any complaints, really. I primarily use NetApp. I only use the EMCs a little bit.

      I am more likely to consider NetApp for mission critical storage systems based on my experience with AFF. The failover seems to work pretty well, they seem to be pretty reliable. If you have a lot of clusters, a cluster that's broke out, it works pretty well. If it fails or crashes, you still have to fix it but it still works.

      Performance is pretty good. It's a little hard to compare because I'm not really on the OS side. I don't really delegate storage provision so I hardly ever get to see the other side of the systems.

      When selecting a vendor the most important criteria include is: can the vendor supply a solution that we need? If we need block storage, can they do block storage very well? If we need good replication, can they provide that? It just depends on what we need it for and if they can provide that solution the best. Our company doesn't have any really money constraint problems. It's more just about the solution than about the cost.

      If someone was looking to buy one I would say: I love the ONTAP operating system. The support is pretty good. I would say the block side of NetApp is probably the weak point. It still does it well, but if you are doing file shares and datastores, you could use it for that. That is primarily what we use it for.

      Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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      Nana Esigyan - PeerSpot reviewer
      Nana EsigyanStorage and Backup Manager at Vodafone
      Real User

      I personally love using the ONTAP application, it gives me an overview of my dashboard. I have most of my mission Critical systems running on the NetApp. It works so well and its user friendly as compared to other Storage OS.
      We just procured the AFF and I can wait to explore and dissect its contents and performance. Looking forward to great stuff.