We use it for the NAS solution. We have a NAS infrastructure with NetApp ONTAP.
SAN Engineer with 1,001-5,000 employees
The new automation feature saves us a lot of time. The response time for tickets is bad.
Pros and Cons
- "The product is good at deduplication. Also, the new automation feature is good, as it saves us a lot of time."
- "Technical support is not in person nowadays. We have to wait a long time to get an engineer. Then, most of the time, their engineers are not good enough to understand our problems. While we might not be able to explain the problem well, or they are not able to understand the problem well, their solutions are slow to resolution. The response time for tickets is bad nowadays."
- "I need to be able to validate how the host is performing from the storage, as I am concerned about the host performance and storage connectivity to the host."
What is our primary use case?
How has it helped my organization?
The product is good at deduplication. Also, the new automation feature is good, as it saves us a lot of time.
What is most valuable?
- SnapMirror
- SnapVault
- Deduplication
- The compression.
What needs improvement?
I need to be able to validate how the host is performing from the storage, as I am concerned about the host performance and storage connectivity to the host.
They have to improve on the data and monitoring tools.
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What do I think about the stability of the solution?
The stability is good. They have point in time recovery, and they don't have any single point of failures.
The FAS series is good. In addition, they have around 10Gs for management, which is nice.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
I love NetApp's scalability. We started in three areas, and now, we have grown to 16 areas. It is that good at scaling.
How are customer service and support?
Technical support is not in person nowadays. We have to wait a long time to get an engineer. Then, most of the time, their engineers are not good enough to understand our problems. While we might not be able to explain the problem well, or they are not able to understand the problem well, their solutions are slow to resolution. The response time for tickets is bad nowadays.
How was the initial setup?
Half of the setup is straightforward. However, when we want to do customizations and networking configurations, it is quite challenging. The issue is that we cannot fit NetApp's configurations to our organization standards.
What about the implementation team?
We have a NetApp consultant for all types of deployments. He has been wonderful to work with as he is always helpful.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
The top two vendors that we considered were NetApp and Dell EMC.
We are also considering some white labels for HCIs, but these solutions aren't shortlisted yet.
What other advice do I have?
If you need something in the NAS area, consider or test the NetApp products.
On the storage and box side, NetApp is really good at what they do.
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Storage Engineer at a government with 10,001+ employees
Delivers low latency and fast I/O for our users' mission-critical apps, with a smaller footprint
Pros and Cons
- "The most valuable features are the data deduplication, the inline compression/compaction, and the encryption as well, the security aspect of it."
- "Overall, for us, it's the stability, it has a solid infrastructure. It's easy to use, easy to rack and configure and start utilizing really quickly. It's been very stable, it works great, and it does everything we would want it to do."
- "I could see the GUI being a little bit more refined, the presentation layer being a little stronger, a little less sluggish."
What is our primary use case?
We use it for all our storage requirements.
How has it helped my organization?
We use it for mission-critical applications. A lot of our users don't want any downtime, they don't want any kind of failure or bottlenecks. They want low latency, they want fast I/O, they want fast throughput - and it delivers.
It has helped us reduce the overall cost of our storage. We were able to consolidate a lot of the storage that we had in the past into a much smaller footprint, using less rack space and power. It has been great for that.
We have saved space using ONTAP, in some cases it's 30 to 40 percent.
What is most valuable?
The most valuable features are the data deduplication, the inline compression/compaction, and the encryption as well, the security aspect of it.
Overall, for us, it's the stability, it has a solid infrastructure. It's easy to use, easy to rack and configure and start utilizing really quickly. It's been very stable, it works great, and it does everything we would want it to do.
What needs improvement?
I could see the GUI being a little bit more refined, the presentation layer being a little stronger, a little less sluggish.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
We're happy with the stability and performance. They are very powerful machines.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
The scalability is very good. It's much more than what we can imagine using.
How is customer service and technical support?
Tech support is very good. They're great at following up, as well, with emails or calling you. It has been very good so far, very quick responses. It's easy to escalate and whenever we have had to order replacement parts, it's been very quick. No complaints at all.
What about the implementation team?
We used a reseller for the deployment, OnX. Our experience with them was very good. They were very helpful. They really helped with the purchasing, refining our requirements to get them where we needed them to be. They have been very good.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
We have considered other options but they either don't have the same kind of architecture that we're looking for or the performance isn't quite the same. We'd have to look at them a little more in some cases, part of our job is to see what the other vendors are up to. But, for now, we're quite happy with NetApp.
What other advice do I have?
Go see a NetApp presentation or get a referral to a reseller for consultation. That would probably be the best way, because they can speak to the whole line of products. We're only familiar with some of their product line but they would be able to do a good job of showing all the products that NetApp has to offer.
In terms of NVMe over Fabrics, that's something we're going to see a lot of in the future. It's going to change storage. From now on, it's not going to be the same. When it comes to speed, compared to other Fiber Channel gear, there's nothing that compares, it's pretty amazingly fast. When it comes to NVMe over Fabrics with existing Fibre Channel infrastructure, the sky is the limit. It's pretty robust, it is a pretty amazing product, and the performance, especially with things like AI applications, will be pretty amazing.
We, as an organization, do not use ONTAP at the moment for machine-learning, AI, real-time analytics or those kinds of groundbreaking applications for storage, but it has a lot of potential. I'd like to use it for those kinds of scenarios, I'd like to see that happen.
We're definitely going forward, we're going to be growing with NetApp and with their products. They've improved a lot over the last couple releases, and I hope to continue to see that. There are a lot more features, advances in things like deduping and thin-provisioning. They're always improving their product.
I would rate ONTAP a nine out of ten at least. It's a very solid product, great architecture, great service and support, and very responsive.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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Regional Sales Manager at a tech consulting company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Great features with good expansion capabilities and good reliability
Pros and Cons
- "The initial setup is pretty straightforward."
- "The price could be lower."
What is our primary use case?
One of the classic use cases is the high availability for both block and file. However, many different technologies within NetApp are of interest to our customers.
What is most valuable?
NetApp has a variety of different features and technologies on offer.
The initial setup is pretty straightforward.
It's a stable product.
The solution can scale well.
What needs improvement?
The integration with other products, both security and third-party products such as Lenovo and others doing OEM solutions, that would be ideal. We'd like to have these with ONTAP on top. We'd like integrations with different types of backup solutions and so on.
The price could be lower.
We have a good sense of feature sets in the pipeline for the product and therefore are largely satisfied with both its capabilities and the roadmap.
For how long have I used the solution?
I've been using the solution for five years or so.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
The stability is great. I'd rate it ten out of ten. There are no bugs or glitches. It doesn't crash or freeze.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
The product scales very well. I'd rate it nine or ten out of ten. It expands easily.
The solution works well for large or mid-size companies.
Within our company, none of us is using NetApp storage as we are providing our customers with solutions.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
From our portfolio, we're selling a lot of Dell EMC and NetApp. We're selling Huawei, and we're selling other storage space as well, such as some IBM. With that said, if you compare Dell EMC and NetApp, it's mostly based on the integration, technologies, and flexibility where we see NetApp being a better fit for many of our customers, yet not for all.
How was the initial setup?
We have been working with NetApp a lot. Doing implementations is not a problem for us.
What about the implementation team?
95% of the time, clients can handle the initial setup. However, we primarily work with enterprise accounts, and those, even with a simple setup, can often lead to complex requirements.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
The pricing is okay. I'd rate it three out of five in terms of affordability. It is not a cheap solution. However, it is quite stable and offers good value.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
We did evaluate this solution against other options.
What other advice do I have?
I'm actually a partner of Lenovo and NetApp. We're integrators. We set the solution up for our clients.
I'd rate the solution ten out of ten.
Based on my 20 years within the IT industry, NetApp is the best system out there. It is just not the cheapest. That said, looking at what it can do with Lenovo and other vendors make it a good option.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
On-premises
Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: Reseller
Storage manager at a manufacturing company with 10,001+ employees
This solution has helped reduce the overall cost of storage space in our organization by allowing us to use one data center, instead of two
Pros and Cons
- "Previously we didn't have DR, but ever since we purchased the NetApp server, we are able to use Snap Mirror and then create DR scenarios, so that's been a huge benefit. This solution has helped reduce the overall cost of storage space in our organization by allowing us to use one data center, instead of two, and then allowing us to replicate the data; so that saves us money to buy more storage. We have been able to save space by using this solution."
- "I would like the ability to perform backups in the cloud. That way you don't have to worry about building the data center. Everything's already in the cloud."
What is our primary use case?
The primary use case for this solution is the storage and backup.
How has it helped my organization?
Previously we didn't have DR, but ever since we purchased the NetApp server, we are able to use SnapMirror and then create DR scenarios, so that's been a huge benefit.
This solution has helped reduce the overall cost of storage space in our organization by allowing us to use one data center, instead of two, and then allowing us to replicate the data; so that saves us money to buy more storage.
We have been able to save space by using this solution.
What is most valuable?
SnapMirror. DR replication, it's very useful that we have backups.
What needs improvement?
I would like the ability to perform backups in the cloud. That way you don't have to worry about building the data center. Everything's already in the cloud.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
It's very stable. We never had any data corruption or data loss, so, it's been very stable.
How are customer service and technical support?
I would say we have platinum support, so they're really good for our work, so they're really good. You get what you paid for.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
Previously, we didn't use any other solution. NetApp came out and gave us a demo and it just works.
How was the initial setup?
Yes. It was very straightforward. Very easy. The PSE came in and showed us how to do it. We followed the instructions and it just works.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
EMC, Hitachi, and IBM. We chose NetApp because of its ease of use.
What other advice do I have?
Our approximate cost per IOP is at least a couple of million.
I would give this product a rating of 8 out of 10. There could be improvements, its proprietary software so it can be pricey.
I say give NetApp a try. Its very simple to install and easy to use.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Director of IT at a tech vendor with 51-200 employees
Using Snapshots, we're able to use to restore VMs in minutes for our developers
Pros and Cons
- "The deduplication is valuable."
- "The only thing I don't like is that firmware upgrades require downtime. It would be beneficial if we could do upgrades without as much downtime."
What is our primary use case?
We use it for network shares and being aware of backups.
How has it helped my organization?
It can restore from Snapshots. Our developers ruin VMs very quickly. It restores Snapshot and gets them back in a few minutes.
What is most valuable?
Deduplication.
What needs improvement?
Feature-wise, it does most of what we want. The only thing I don't like is that firmware upgrades require downtime. It would be beneficial if we could do upgrades without as much downtime.
For how long have I used the solution?
More than five years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
It's very stable. We've had no issues with it in six years of using it now. We have eight different devices and the stability has been awesome. The only failures we've had are drive failures and they normally have those shipped out before we even know there was a problem.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
Unfortunately, we haven't scaled up much.
How is customer service and technical support?
Technical support is very good. We haven't had a ton of issues but when we do - the drive failures - they're very easy to deal with.
How was the initial setup?
It was pretty easy. They came out and helped with it and gave us a few days' training. It was pretty simple.
What about the implementation team?
We used a reseller, Storage Assessments. Our experience with them was very good. We still maintain the relationship with them for upgrades and purchasing other software.
What was our ROI?
We had a developer get a virus in the Dev environment and, due to the Snapshots and backups, we were able to just blow that environment away and bring it back up pretty quickly. I would consider that ROI because it saved us a ton of money in machines and resources. We were able to do that in an hour, versus rebuilding the entire environment.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
We also looked at 3PAR and HPE. We brought all three vendors in, met up. After doing testing and using them all, NetApp was by far the easiest and the deduplication was much better than the competitors.
What other advice do I have?
Go with the NetApp. The ease of use and the deployment of it, by far, outdo every other vendor that we've dealt with.
I would rate it a solid eight out of ten. The ease of use is awesome, the support is awesome. The only thing keeping me from giving it a ten is that keeping it upgraded is a pain.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Storage Engineer at a individual & family service with 501-1,000 employees
It helps us save money using compression and deduplication
Pros and Cons
- "You can add storage capacity on the fly with Clustered ONTAP. You can add nodes and increase the entire horsepower of ONTAP."
- "With ONTAP, we have peace of mind with double-parity protector RAID systems. Therefore, we can sleep well at the night, not thinking about crashing a RAID, because it's secure."
- "Technical support is hit or miss sometimes. Level 1 support is not very good. Level 2 and Level 3 (the escalation support) are very good. They are knowledgeable people, but sometimes you get some hiccup in the Level 1 support. After you pass Level 1, it is smooth sailing. There is a lot of room for improvement."
- "I would like to see more integration of the features with the CIFS and SMB Protocols. We also want integration with iSCSI."
What is our primary use case?
We use it to store email files, mainly JPEGs.
How has it helped my organization?
With ONTAP, we have peace of mind with double-parity protector RAID systems. Therefore, we can sleep well at the night, not thinking about crashing a RAID, because it's secure. We are confident with the technology.
We use it for company websites using NetApp back-end. These are mission-critical applications.
What is most valuable?
- The capability to create no overhead Snapshots.
- The capability to restore from Snapshots: file and add volume.
- FlexClone is a great feature.
- All the features are great with ONTAP.
What needs improvement?
I would like to see more integration of the features with the CIFS and SMB Protocols. We also want integration with iSCSI. Right now, there are a lot of gap between some bleeding edge technology and the assembly protocols. Therefore, I want to see those areas improved in the future releases.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
The data is always available. I haven't had a disaster using NetApp products, at least the NetApp FAS systems. It's very stable and highly protected.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
You can add storage capacity on the fly with Clustered ONTAP. You can add nodes and increase the entire horsepower of ONTAP.
How is customer service and technical support?
Technical support is hit or miss sometimes. Level 1 support is not very good. Level 2 and Level 3 (the escalation support) are very good. They are knowledgeable people, but sometimes you get some hiccup in the Level 1 support. After you pass Level 1, it is smooth sailing. There is a lot of room for improvement.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup was straightforward.
What about the implementation team?
We used an in-house team for the installation, and it went well.
In the past, we have used a reseller. Our experience with them was also good.
What was our ROI?
It helps us save money using compression and deduplication. No overhead snapshots and FlexClone (with no additional space) help us save space. We have been able to save about 50 percent of our space using ONTAP.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
We did not consider anyone else besides NetApp.
What other advice do I have?
If you are looking for something simple to manage, but an advanced storage array, NetApp is the way to go.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Replication technologies keep our customers out of risk; we can seamlessly failover/failback
Pros and Cons
- "I love the replication technologies which keep a customer out of risk. At any time, we can do a seamless failover/failback, and have the latest data on it. The SnapVault is another excellent feature. It's used for remote disk-based backups so we don't need to depend on tape backups with their long restore times."
- "The only thing that they have to improve in NetApp is that they're still relying on padding each node in active/active in CDOT. That has to go away. They should look at the scalability on a platform level. The computer will have that one file system with multiple nodes on it. If even one node fails, any node in that cluster could take over the functionalities. But today, it absolutely relies on that active-active uncoupling it. That needs to be improved in such a way that it would be one namespace. If this node goes down, any node in the cluster should take over and run that environment."
What is our primary use case?
One use case is user files, when customers are trying to place their unstructured data and then access it remotely. A second case is is VDI. All the VDI uses have their home drives hosted in NetApp. In addition, we use NetApp for general-purpose, such as Unix applications, database archives, big data, when they need a lot of reads and fewer writes. That data comes into NAS. In our firm, we use it for tier-three and tier-four, which needs less than 20 millisecond response times. Those types of applications are deployed in NetApp.
How has it helped my organization?
In terms of VDI, pretty much every employee of our firm is a customer of our NAS infrastructure. Everybody's home drive is on NAS, so it's highly critical. Even a minimum outage would cause a lot of potential business risks to the firm. NetApp has come up with performance management devices to improve the performance. And it has all-flash and hybrid aggregates to improve performance in caching. It's really excellent.
As we scale more data, as we add more data into our data pool, we really need it for faster disk drives and quicker response times for our customers, to make sure they will get their data whenever they need it.
What is most valuable?
I love the replication technologies which keep a customer out of risk. At any time, we can do a seamless failover/failback, and have the latest data on it.
The SnapVault is another excellent feature. It's used for remote disk-based backups so we don't need to depend on tape backups with their long restore times.
What needs improvement?
SnapLock is the feature we would like to see enhanced. As a bank, we store data for compliance for a long time: ten years, 15 years. The data would be locked. So they should enhance the SnapLock features.
At the same time, the customers want a seamless failover and failback for SnapLock. As a bank, we want to look at the data availability, so every quarter we failover and failback. Today, we can failover but we can't failback. We'd like to be able to do both.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
On average, the data that lives in the ONTAP hardware is there for four to six years and then it moves on to its end-of-support-life years. When it gets there, it tends to have a greater number of hardware breaks and failures. From a data perspective that's a big risk for us.
As part of tech refresh, we plan the data movement. One year before it gets to the end-of-support-life, we predominantly migrate it into a CDOT, or some other latest all-flash technology that NetApp provides us.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
In CDOT, theoretically, you can have 24 nodes in a cluster, but we are careful about that. Right now, we have ten-node clusters. We feel CDOT provides scalability in terms of the virtual world. You can keep adding nodes, you can keep adding disk shelves, you can scale your volumes. And then you can virtually move your failover capabilities from node A to node B, whichever node you want. When you want to do maintenance, you can just virtually move your LIFs' interfaces to other nodes and then you can safely failover. That's great, amazing.
The only thing that they have to improve in NetApp is that they're still relying on padding each node in active-active in CDOT. That has to go away. They should look at the scalability on a platform level. The computer would have that one file system with multiple nodes on it. If even one node fails, any node in that cluster could take over the functionalities. But today, it absolutely relies on that active-active uncoupling it. That needs to be improved in such a way that it would be one namespace. If this node goes down, any node in the cluster should take over and run that environment. It should also have stability, high-availability, and data protection. It all happens today in the virtual world, but it has to happen in the physical layout as well.
How is customer service and technical support?
Tech support is okay. We have given our feedback. What we have seen it evolve over a period of time. So far it's okay. It still has not reached a level I would call "great," but it's okay. It's going in the right direction.
We have performance issues and capacity issues, among other things. We don't get the right engineer, the right attention the first time, so it needs escalation. We need to raise the priority of the cases to make sure to grab NetApp's attention. Those situations have to be avoided. There needs to be a proactive solution instead of reactive.
What was our ROI?
We do see ROI from the capacity perspective, although I don't have data points at the moment.
What other advice do I have?
I would rate ONTAP at eight out of ten. It's an industry standard. It pretty much supports all the protocols and it delivers what the customer needs. It's operating on the use case perspective. Instead of having thousands of features - what is the use of that if a customer only wants ten percent of it - NetApp is really focusing on the ten percent, and delivering what the customer really needs.
It would be a ten out of ten with cluster enhancement and support improvements. Those are things that they should improve. I hope in a couple of years, when I come to the next NetApp Insight conference, I'll be able to tell you it's a ten.
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Storage Engineer L3 SME at Dimension Data
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ONTAP has improved my organization by lowering budget costs
Pros and Cons
- "ONTAP has improved my organization by lowering budget costs. Deduplication, compression, compaction, SnapMirror, SnapWall, the transaction happens from one to the other. It's serving our needs just as expected."
- "If you do the initial setup manually, it is a bit difficult for someone who doesn't know."
What is our primary use case?
Our primary use case for ONTAP is for all of the protocols we use like CS, NFS, EFC, ISKC.
How has it helped my organization?
ONTAP has improved my organization by lowering budget costs. Deduplication, compression, compaction, SnapMirror, SnapWall, the transaction happens from one to the other.
It's serving our needs just as expected.
What is most valuable?
The best features within a database like data application, compression, compaction and SnapMirror, SnapWall, and encryption.
NVME over Fabrics in a next-generation feature, which gives even faster access to the data than what we have with our agencies. Then we have the SSDs. So, improving ONTAP is taking off. On day one, when NetApp started, the cluster there were not with all the features that were in the seven mode. Then, gradually, keep adding novice 9.3, 9.4. Most of the features are from 7.3. They also have additional features like encryption, compaction, which are not there as well.
For how long have I used the solution?
One to three years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
It has super stability, it works perfectly.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
Scalability so far is very good until it comes to the twelve node SAN, it only goes to 24 nodes. We have twelve nodes with ONTAP but it gradually has increased since the beginning. It has gone from two nodes to twelve nodes.
How is customer service and technical support?
Their technical support is super but the engineers are working on the technology and they themselves cannot address most of the issues.
How was the initial setup?
If you do the initial setup manually, it is a bit difficult for someone who doesn't know. NetApp has a three-click implementation, it's so simple.
What about the implementation team?
I wasn't really involved with the initial setup but I used to set up the ONTAP systems using all of the features like 7-mode and cluster mode.
What other advice do I have?
I would rate this solution a ten out of ten.
Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: Partner.
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