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A cheap VM tool that should integrate backups more readily
Pros and Cons
  • "The support staff in the tech support team at Oracle has improved. I find them extremely helpful and they give very solid support."
  • "This solution is not as stable as other solutions in the market. But, Oracle has made an effort to improve these issues with recent updates."

What is our primary use case?

I primarily use this for server virtualization. I also use it for application deployment. 

Oracle has a lot of templates for most of the enterprise application that they sell the market. So, it is easier to deploy those application using one Oracle VM template than actually setting up a server from scratch. Oracle VM is very handy in that a user can easily deploy the templates, pre-configures and does a few customizations within a short time-span.

How has it helped my organization?

Oracle VM is a solution that grows with your business. It can easily be scaled up, and it is a great storage platform. 

What is most valuable?

The Oracle VM template is the most valuable feature. 

What needs improvement?

I do not think this solution is as stable as other solutions in the market. But, Oracle has really been trying to update the solution with the most recent release, and I find it is less buggy than it had been.

In addition, I think Oracle VM should integrate its own backups rather than relying on other Oracle tools for virtual backups. 

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For how long have I used the solution?

More than five years.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

This solution supports up to 254 virtual machine servers. So, this is a huge capability for scalability. Any company can start with whatever it has, and grow as its budget grows. 

How are customer service and support?

Initially, the tech support was horrible. But, over time, the support engineers have improved. I find the tech support extremely helpful recently. They are currently giving very solid support. 

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

I have prior experience with VMware, Bhyve and FreeNAS. Bhyve and FreeNAS are open-source VM solutions.

How was the initial setup?

It is very simple to setup and deploy. But, it should be noted that a systems architect or systems engineer must be at the helm of the deployment. The setup must be conducted by someone well-versed in Linux. 

Initially, when we setup we had to make sure we had a staff architect that was knowledgeable with storage skills and Linux. Those were our requirements for proper deployment. 

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

The cost of this solution is cheap. It is one of the reasons we chose Oracle VM. It is truly "pocket- friendly."

In regards to the licensing, Oracle VM is definitely a good choice for a customer that is already using Oracle solutions. 

What other advice do I have?

Nothing is simple about virtualization software products anymore. They are becoming more complex by the day. Now, with the advent of containers, the complexity has increased. Nothing is simple. Users must be dedicated to understand these VM solutions. 

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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The primary benefit of virtualization is reduced CapEx by getting rid of old hardware and then consolidating them on a defined set of platforms.

Valuable Features

Although not necessarily a feature, but rather a capability of virtualization, is the possibiltles to have high consolidation density and to take new or legacy applications and put them on high-performance computing platforms.

Improvements to My Organization

The primary benefit is that it reduced CapEx by getting rid of old hardware and then consolidating them on a defined set of platforms. And while it's pretty well automated and if your IT department is well-versed in virtualization technology, it can reduce OpEx as well.

Room for Improvement

I think it needs a more simplified way of provisioning external storage networks. Those areas in performance, especially triaging performance at the hypervisor layer, need some improvement.

Deployment Issues

We've had no issues with deploying it.

Stability Issues

It's come a long way. So, by the time you get to v3.3, it's a pretty stable platform. It's much easier to use than the previous versions and I'd say it's at a good place right now.

Scalability Issues

It scales well. I think a primary use case of this would be in the private cloud appliance, a PCA, which is where it really gets leveraged.

Customer Service and Technical Support

The primary benefit I see is that most of the people who are doing support for Oracle VM come from database and virtualization backgrounds, and they sit together. If you have a problem with a database, since it's virtualized, they'll know exactly how to triage it.

Initial Setup

It's been a struggle. Over the years, it's gotten better and better. I think what's helped tremendously is the integration of OVM with PCA, and so all the setup has really been taken out of the hands of the administrator. It's really more of a deployment thing than it is a setup thing. That's helped a lot.

Other Solutions Considered

We looked at quite a few vendors and we support different vendors as well, too. We're not a one-vendor shop. We use quite different vendors and it's all-purpose for us. For Oracle-based technology, we use Oracle VM. For non-Oracle stuff, we use VMware.

Other Advice

The first thing I would suggest is that if you have a test environment, the best thing to do is learn. Get certified hardware and then play with it, test it. Make sure you're comfortable with the whole provisioning setup and configuration of it. Then use it on a much more wider scale.

Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: We're reseller and partner.
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it_user521604 - PeerSpot reviewer
Manager, ERP Technical Support at a pharma/biotech company with 1,001-5,000 employees
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You can scale VMs without affecting the software applications. You can still reconfigure the hardware.

What is most valuable?

Virtual machines are much cheaper than having physical machines. They are rolling out new machines very quick and fast. It saves time and saves cost, that’s how we feel; and also the systems are more reliable.

How has it helped my organization?

Saves time for procuring the new hardware. No more physical space sitting on the data centers.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

It's stable. There are still ways you can break the system, but it's very minimal, compared to a physical system.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

For real hardware, scalability is challenging. But with virtual, you can scale without affecting the software applications, you can still reconfigure the hardware. Whenever we ask them to increase the RAM or other things, they can do it, and never come back and say well, it's VM's role. But every two years, we need to update the VM build; that we know. After four years, our VMs get old, so we need to replace them.

How is customer service and technical support?

So far the response is good. Our team never comes back and says Oracle is giving us a hard time.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

It's a challenge for us to keep investing in it. We are a manufacturing company, not an IT company. Whenever Oracle comes, say every three to five years, and says everybody change the system, you need to find the budget for that. And in a year, it’s going to be outdated again, right? After four years, my system has become completely outdated.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

I'm sure there is one product, Oracle Data Integrator for loading bulk data from one system to another. We just starting using it. It’s a very good product, but we haven’t used all the features. Once we explored all the features, we got feedback from the company. I know so far that it’s good.

What other advice do I have?

I know that everything is on the cloud; but eventually, if you are a new startup company, go to the VM. You have control over what you have, while at the same time, not dependent on the hardware.

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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Robin Saikat ChatterjeeHead of Oracle Cloud Infrastructure Solutioning Technology and Architeture at Tata Consultancy Services
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Currently looking into Oracel Private Cloud Appliance which is built on OVM technology. For those of you with OPN access there is a beta exam available that ends on the 6th of May . eventreg.oracle.com for details and to request a voucher

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IT Director at a tech services company with 51-200 employees
Consultant
​We can run software on a host separate from other hardware resources, which is important when we need to take a snapshot and restore it later on another VM.​

Valuable Features:

With Oracle VM, the most valuable feature is the virtualization of the hardware, making it easier to maintain and support than actual OS's and networks resources. 

Improvements to My Organization:

We can run software on a host separate from other hardware resources, which is important when we need to take a snapshot and restore it later on another VM.

But it also comes down to the fact that it's a product by Oracle, the industry leader. We know we can rely on it and that it'll be supported by an established company.

Room for Improvement:

The fact that it cannot do a hot snapshot is a problem for us, but we work around it. We need to have good backups, while the system is up, which don't don't right now with Oracle VM. Our workarounds are fine for now, but we'd prefer to be able to just do hot snapshots when we need to.

Deployment Issues:

We've had no issues deploying it.

Stability Issues:

I think it's fine, there are no issue there. We haven't had any big issues with it being unstable.

Scalability Issues:

The scalability has been there for us as well. We've been able to scale as needed.

Initial Setup:

It's implemented just fine. The setup was pretty easy and straightforward. It was a combination of an easy product to install and technical expertise as well.

Implementation Team:

We implemented it ourselves with our in-house team.

Other Solutions Considered:

We didn't really evaluate other products because we already run a lot of other Oracle solutions. Obviously, Oracle VM is supported by Oracle, which makes things easier than if we had used, for example, vSphere or Hyper-V.

Other Advice:

Study ahead of time so you know what you're working with. Also, plan your implementation.

Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: We're partners.
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it_user522204 - PeerSpot reviewer
Consultant at Temperies
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Performance for Linux, I'm able to manage it via Command Line
Pros and Cons
  • "Because of the virtualization for Linux, I use just Linux basically in all VMs, a few with Windows."
  • "I think more Command-Line options for the product, for deployments."

What is most valuable?

First because of the virtualization for Linux, I use just Linux basically in all VMs, a few with Windows. For Windows we decide to use a virtual box. In Linux, we choose to manage by the Command Line because my history is more Command Line.

What needs improvement?

I think more Command-Line options for the product, for deployments. I know that the latest version includes OpenStack support so you can manage things in any kind of OpenStack-certified solution. But I prefer to use Command Line traditionally with shells.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

It's not stable if you don't use certified hardware. I work for a university and we don't have certified hardware, so we have to move the storage system to NVS instead of all of the cluster for a system because it's more stable.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

Really, I don't have experience with a lot of installations because we have 20 or 25 virtual machines employed in a cluster.

How is customer service and technical support?

To be honest, I never ask for support. I try to solve myself. I'm a kind of an old hacker. I've used Linux from the beginning so I decide to solve problems myself. 

How was the initial setup?

If you only use the Command Line, it's easy. If you use the VM Management Console, you need to do more. Basically, another VM to manage, by itself, the cluster. But no, it's not complex.

What other advice do I have?

I recommend Oracle VM instead of VMware or some other Windows native solution to virtualize Linux servers. It's performant for Linux.

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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President at a tech consulting company with 51-200 employees
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We've noticed that when working with Citrix with our Oracle clients who also use Oracle Linux, the monitoring and testing is simpler and easier for us to do.
Pros and Cons
  • "We've noticed that when working with Citrix with our Oracle clients who also use Oracle Linux, the monitoring and testing is simpler and easier for us to do."
  • "It doesn't monitor everything, which is a little bit more difficult. It doesn't seem to have as many features or metrics to monitor as some others do, so you have to make some homemade scripts to do it."

How has it helped my organization?

It's similar to being Citrix-based with a little bit of difference on the technology side. It seems to handle some of the database mechanics better. Again, that's probably just the sampling size we've done, which may not be big enough, but it does seem to work with those a little bit better in our experience.

What is most valuable?

We've noticed that when working with Citrix with our Oracle clients who also use Oracle Linux, the monitoring and testing is simpler and easier for us to do.

What needs improvement?

It doesn't monitor everything, which is a little bit more difficult. It doesn't seem to have as many features or metrics to monitor as some others do, so you have to make some homemade scripts to do it. There are richer APIs out there that are able to pull the data back.

Also, finding files and downloading them and installing them can take a little bit of time. Once they've got it installed, it seems to work pretty good.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

Operationally from a stability perspective, it has been pretty good. Some of the monitoring that we do will show when it starts getting stress, but then creating new ones has been effortless and it hasn't really been a problem.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

We have been able to scale using it just fine.

How was the initial setup?

It's a little bit cumbersome. To know exactly how to install it and the management pieces wasn't as straightforward as some of my admins have said.

What other advice do I have?

Try it our and test it, and make sure it's going to be exactly what you need first versus the other options because they all have their own little idiosyncrasies, and you want to make sure it's going to be a fit for your organization.

Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: We're partners.
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Sr. Linux Systems Administrator at a tech services company with 1,001-5,000 employees
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The management console manages resources, virtual machine templates, and virtual machine images.
Pros and Cons
  • "In terms of server provisioning, it only takes a few clicks of a button and a bit of install automation."
  • "With our current OVM Manager version, migrating a VM from one repository to another repository was really complicated, especially editing and manually matching the configuration."

How has it helped my organization?

It simplifies server management. In terms of server provisioning, it only takes a few clicks of a button and a bit of install automation. The server can be delivered in less than an hour, compared to physical machines.

What is most valuable?

The integrated web-based management console manages resources, virtual machine templates, and virtual machine images.

What needs improvement?

With our current OVM Manager version, migrating a VM from one repository to another repository was really complicated, especially editing and manually matching the configuration.

For how long have I used the solution?

Three to five years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

For the past three years, most of the issues we encountered were related to hardware issues. Based on our experience, I can say it is stable.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

In terms of the visualization perspective, scaling was not an issue. You can scale without affecting the applications. You can even reconfigure WM hardware specs without affecting the system.

How are customer service and technical support?

I would give technical support a rating of 8/10. Most of the calls I placed with Oracle for support were handled as expected.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

In our current infrastructure, we have both ESXi and OVM Manager.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup was pretty straightforward. All you have to do is to choose the right options.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

I was not involved in the procurement phase.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

I was not involved in the procurement phase.

What other advice do I have?

Based in my experience, I would recommend this product in terms of:

  • Support
  • Stability
  • Scalability
  • Overall ease of management
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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You get what you pay for

Oracle database licensing rules make licensing on VMware cost prohibitive. Instead Oracle prefers that you use their "enterprise" virtualization product, Oracle VM. Avoid it at all costs. Threaten to migrate to MS SQL... just don't use this thing.

Pros:

  • Free
  • Relatively inexpensive support

Cons:

  • Poor and buggy Windows client support. PVM network drivers have a serious performance bug that has not been resolved in more than a year (and three versions updates!). Luckily, there is a workaround where you can disable some features of the virtual NIC to get it working.
  • "High Availability" in the OVM world means that if you shutdown a VM from within the OS, OVM automatically restarts it. If you want to actually shut down a VM you have to disable high availability, in which case you lose the ability to automatically migrate a VM if a host fails. It also means that you need to give your server admins access to the OVM Manager. For example, our DBAs can admin their Oracle servers... people who wouldn't normally have access to that level of enterprise management.
  • It took three weeks and a set of consultants who knew little more than us to get storage and network working properly in a fault-tolerant manner.
  • Non-existent best practices and no real community of support. Some Googling will find you the occasional blog or commercial site with tips and tricks, but they are few and far between.
  • Poor management interface. In order to see the status of an individual VM you have to drill down to the correct host. There is no way to see the status of all VMs on all hosts.
  • P2V is a multi-step process. Boot the server from a CD to turn it into a web server. Import web server into an OVM template. Create VM from template. Delete template. Essentially you need double the storage to get through the process.
  • Minimal troubleshooting or diagnostic information without diving into the Linux OS.
  • Training (virtual classroom only) was sub-standard and inconsistent. One member of our team was taught only to use the command line and was never shown the GUI. I was taught the GUI and some command line. And if you mention VMware in order to clarify concepts, prepare to get your head bitten off.
  • Migrating VMs to different storage is an adaptation of the process for deploying from a template. Some inputs are ignored, and yet you are prompted for them anyway.
  • You need an Oracle database to run the OVM Manager, which you install on the OVM Manager. So a key part of the infrastructure is a single point of failure.
  • The SAN disk for the server pool is a single point of failure.
  • If the OVM Manager goes down there is no way to manage the individual OVM hosts short of the Linux command line. The database (even when using Oracle Enterprise instead of the included Oracle XE) is prone to corruption, leaving you dead in the water. This has already happened to us once and the only solution from Oracle was to rebuild. Apparently this corruption is rather common. I know of other installations at my employer that have run into this corruption three times in the past nine months, requiring a rebuild each time. I do not feel that I can trust this product for a mission-critical production environment.
  • Oracle is aware of these corruption issues but does not know the source and has no fix. They have reduced the incidence of corruption in version 3.2.3, but it is not a question of if corruption will occur, but when. The difficult thing is that the OVM manager will appear to run fine with this corruption.... until you restart the OVM manager, at which point it fails.
  • The whole networking / storage / repository / configuration setup is needlessly complicated. I know this is an Oracle flavor of XEN, but... Citrix based their virtualization product on XEN and it isn't nearly as painful. Maybe Oracle should buy Citrix so they can drop OVM.
  • Configuring storage that does not support their management plugins (entry-level EMC products) is an exercise in trial and error.
  • If you already have another VM environment (VMware, Hyper-V) you are essentially setting up a parallel VM environment to manage.
  • Cloning a VM (or cloning from a template) duplicates *everything* so be sure you don't have any ISO images attached, as they will be duplicated as well, chewing up storage.
  • When you clone a VM the new files use the same name as the old with a number after it. If you don't think to rename them you will end up with a lot of files named "Windows 2008 Template (1)" "Windows 2008 Template (2)" and so on. The properties of the file will tell you to which VM it is linked, but (trust me) renaming them will save you a LOT of confusion. Things like this VMware just handles for you under the covers.

In summary: Do not use Oracle VM. If you must run Xen there are much better and manageable implementations (Citrix XenServer). If any reviewer has given Oracle VM more than two stars I seriously question whether they really have hands-on experience with the product (or have experience with a real virtualization product as a basis of comparison).

Update: After talking with other enterprises we are dropping OVM and setting up a separate VMware cluster in order to meet Oracle licensing requirements. While we will incur the expense of VMware licenses it is well worth it.

The licensing argument you will hear from Oracle regarding VMware is a scare tactic. You CAN run Oracle on VMware without breaking the bank on Oracle licensing if you plan carefully. VMware also guarantees that they will work directly with Oracle on your behalf to resolve any issues that may be linked to running on VMware.

Further update: When we gave up on Oracle VM about 9 months ago the central office tried to stick with it due to the Oracle DB licensing issues. Last week they got fed up and ordered the hardware to create a new VMware cluster dedicated to Oracle instead.

Another update: While I have not used Oracle VM since I posted this review, it is interesting to note that they have not released a new version since 2014. The latest version 3.3, did not fix any of the issues I don't think they are really serious about advancing or enhancing this product.

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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it_user516714Helpdesk level 3 at a university with 1,001-5,000 employees
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It is free and not hard to install

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