The price of PubSub+ Event Broker is reasonable for the capability it offers. However, when compared to others solutions on the market it is expensive.
Head of Enterprise Architecture & Digital Innovation Lab at Hewlett Packard Inc.
Real User
2020-06-21T08:08:00Z
Jun 21, 2020
The pricing and licensing are painless. Having a free version of the solution was a big, important part of our decision to go with it. This was the big driver for us to evaluate Solace. We started using it as the free version. When we felt comfortable with the free version, that is when we bought the enterprise version. For simple use cases, the free version works. Because we wanted the maintenance and access to the technical support, we went with the enterprise license which is pretty cost-efficient compared to other commercial products. Licensing-wise, it's pretty much free if you want to start off with the basic version, then you can expand to other additional features as you feel comfortable and confident. You have that flexibility from a licensing perspective.
Senior Project Manager at a financial services firm with 5,001-10,000 employees
Real User
2020-06-16T08:37:00Z
Jun 16, 2020
In terms of pricing, you need to take into account the internal infrastructure chargebacks, monitoring, and service chargebacks that you get from using your internal hardware versus what you get by deploying via an appliance. In many cases, the cost is your service costs for having your infrastructure manage your underlying hardware, and the monitoring and service costs can quickly spin costs. Storage can spin costs to be much, much higher. Whereas, sitting on an appliance-based software where you can manage that internally within your own engineering team, has been much more cost-effective for us. The amount of internal chargebacks we've been able to avoid is significant. It's really the reason we're able to pseudo have a cloud-based costing model by using appliances, which is fine. Everyone's going cloud. It's a cost-play as well as an agility play, but we get that cost play by using the Solace appliance model on our side. I think many people that deal with similar large infrastructure teams are trying to get the same sort of process.
We have been really happy with the product licensing rates. It has been free for us, up to a 100,000 transactions per second, and all we have to do is pay for support. Making their product available and accessible to us has not been a problem at all. Having a free version is critical for our technology operations use case. This is primarily because our technology operations team is a cost center in our company. They are not profit drivers and having a free version for installation will probably meet our needs. Even for production, it'll support up to a 100,000 messages per second. I don't think in technology operations that we have that many events and alerts from our detection tools. Even if I have 20 or 30 event detection products out there, they're only going to publish the things which are critical or warnings. I don't think we'll ever reach a 100,000 messages per second. We have been dealing with the free version for a better part of 18 months now. There have been no allergic reactions. You should expect maintenance costs, but we've not really needed that because we're not live yet in production for our first use case. For our physical appliances, capital markets folks were happy to get a big discount on the last version of the physical appliances. I've heard no complaints about what they're being charged for the Solace product that they've had in use for seven years. However, they haven't modernized any of their applications into Azure yet.
Technology Lead at a pharma/biotech company with 10,001+ employees
Real User
2020-06-10T08:01:00Z
Jun 10, 2020
They have good pricing in place. Their licensing model is a simple model. There are different tiers where you can choose what would work for you. As a customer, you need to know roughly how many messages a month you will use. If you know that it is going to be between 50,000 and 100,000, while there is a large gap between those two figures, you can start small and scale it over a period of time until you reach 100,000. You might start with 50,000. Since it might take six months to reach 100,000, what I would suggest is starting with the lower tier, because you don't need to pay for something that is higher. Then, as the demand grows, the tier can be revisited. That's based on the license agreement that you should have as part of the contract. You should agree with Solace that you will start small but that your intentions are to grow, depending on the demand that's coming in. Provide a roadmap of how long it will take to reach the next tier. Solace appreciates that view of your roadmap, and they will also come along with you in that journey. They will tell you, "Okay, start with a giga tier, don't go for a tera," or even start with a kilo tier. Slowly, as you see demand going up — it could be once every two or three months — you can have a look at it. It could also be once in six months if you don't want that many interactions. See how many you have done. If it has not gone beyond 75,000, you can continue to operate under the current tier. But if you think it's going beyond 75,000, you can move to 100,000 tier. It's a staged and calculated approach. You also have to choose which of their product models would work for you. They have an appliance, they have a software as a service model, and they have an on-premise model, using a Kubernetes based setup. You need to look at your architecture and where your real needs are for event-driven brokers to be sitting. The licensing model also changes accordingly. You have to have the right contract in place so that you can reassess that contract every few months to see whether you have breached your threshold. It's not that it's going to stop working, but you need to have that as part of your agreement, that even before it reaches the 70 or 80 percent of the threshold you will have a call to see whether you want to upgrade or not. That's all part of the contractual terms and conditions and negotiations.
Lead Manager at a manufacturing company with 10,001+ employees
Real User
2020-06-09T07:44:00Z
Jun 9, 2020
Go for the best deal that you can get from Solace. Primarily, the licensing is dependent on the volume that is flowing. If you go for their support services, it will cost some more money, but I think it is worth it, especially if you are just starting your journey. I don't think it makes any difference if somebody gives us a free version. That would be very small from a capacity perspective. For an enterprise organization that would not be sufficient, so we are not looking for freeware. We are looking for something that will add value and be fit for purpose. Freeware is good if you want to try something quickly without putting in much money. However, as far as our decision is concerned, I don't think it helps. At the end of the day, if we are convinced that a capability is required, we will ask for the funding. Then, when the funding is available, we will go for an enterprise solution only.
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The price of the solution is expensive.
The price of PubSub+ Event Broker is reasonable for the capability it offers. However, when compared to others solutions on the market it is expensive.
We paid around thirty-five or thirty-eight thousand euros for it. It was for a medium-sized deployment with two nodes.
I'm not aware of the exact pricing.
It could be cheaper. Its licensing is on a yearly basis.
The pricing and licensing were very transparent and well-communicated by our account manager. There was no free version when we evaluated it.
The pricing and licensing are painless. Having a free version of the solution was a big, important part of our decision to go with it. This was the big driver for us to evaluate Solace. We started using it as the free version. When we felt comfortable with the free version, that is when we bought the enterprise version. For simple use cases, the free version works. Because we wanted the maintenance and access to the technical support, we went with the enterprise license which is pretty cost-efficient compared to other commercial products. Licensing-wise, it's pretty much free if you want to start off with the basic version, then you can expand to other additional features as you feel comfortable and confident. You have that flexibility from a licensing perspective.
In terms of pricing, you need to take into account the internal infrastructure chargebacks, monitoring, and service chargebacks that you get from using your internal hardware versus what you get by deploying via an appliance. In many cases, the cost is your service costs for having your infrastructure manage your underlying hardware, and the monitoring and service costs can quickly spin costs. Storage can spin costs to be much, much higher. Whereas, sitting on an appliance-based software where you can manage that internally within your own engineering team, has been much more cost-effective for us. The amount of internal chargebacks we've been able to avoid is significant. It's really the reason we're able to pseudo have a cloud-based costing model by using appliances, which is fine. Everyone's going cloud. It's a cost-play as well as an agility play, but we get that cost play by using the Solace appliance model on our side. I think many people that deal with similar large infrastructure teams are trying to get the same sort of process.
We have been really happy with the product licensing rates. It has been free for us, up to a 100,000 transactions per second, and all we have to do is pay for support. Making their product available and accessible to us has not been a problem at all. Having a free version is critical for our technology operations use case. This is primarily because our technology operations team is a cost center in our company. They are not profit drivers and having a free version for installation will probably meet our needs. Even for production, it'll support up to a 100,000 messages per second. I don't think in technology operations that we have that many events and alerts from our detection tools. Even if I have 20 or 30 event detection products out there, they're only going to publish the things which are critical or warnings. I don't think we'll ever reach a 100,000 messages per second. We have been dealing with the free version for a better part of 18 months now. There have been no allergic reactions. You should expect maintenance costs, but we've not really needed that because we're not live yet in production for our first use case. For our physical appliances, capital markets folks were happy to get a big discount on the last version of the physical appliances. I've heard no complaints about what they're being charged for the Solace product that they've had in use for seven years. However, they haven't modernized any of their applications into Azure yet.
They have good pricing in place. Their licensing model is a simple model. There are different tiers where you can choose what would work for you. As a customer, you need to know roughly how many messages a month you will use. If you know that it is going to be between 50,000 and 100,000, while there is a large gap between those two figures, you can start small and scale it over a period of time until you reach 100,000. You might start with 50,000. Since it might take six months to reach 100,000, what I would suggest is starting with the lower tier, because you don't need to pay for something that is higher. Then, as the demand grows, the tier can be revisited. That's based on the license agreement that you should have as part of the contract. You should agree with Solace that you will start small but that your intentions are to grow, depending on the demand that's coming in. Provide a roadmap of how long it will take to reach the next tier. Solace appreciates that view of your roadmap, and they will also come along with you in that journey. They will tell you, "Okay, start with a giga tier, don't go for a tera," or even start with a kilo tier. Slowly, as you see demand going up — it could be once every two or three months — you can have a look at it. It could also be once in six months if you don't want that many interactions. See how many you have done. If it has not gone beyond 75,000, you can continue to operate under the current tier. But if you think it's going beyond 75,000, you can move to 100,000 tier. It's a staged and calculated approach. You also have to choose which of their product models would work for you. They have an appliance, they have a software as a service model, and they have an on-premise model, using a Kubernetes based setup. You need to look at your architecture and where your real needs are for event-driven brokers to be sitting. The licensing model also changes accordingly. You have to have the right contract in place so that you can reassess that contract every few months to see whether you have breached your threshold. It's not that it's going to stop working, but you need to have that as part of your agreement, that even before it reaches the 70 or 80 percent of the threshold you will have a call to see whether you want to upgrade or not. That's all part of the contractual terms and conditions and negotiations.
Go for the best deal that you can get from Solace. Primarily, the licensing is dependent on the volume that is flowing. If you go for their support services, it will cost some more money, but I think it is worth it, especially if you are just starting your journey. I don't think it makes any difference if somebody gives us a free version. That would be very small from a capacity perspective. For an enterprise organization that would not be sufficient, so we are not looking for freeware. We are looking for something that will add value and be fit for purpose. Freeware is good if you want to try something quickly without putting in much money. However, as far as our decision is concerned, I don't think it helps. At the end of the day, if we are convinced that a capability is required, we will ask for the funding. Then, when the funding is available, we will go for an enterprise solution only.
So far, we are okay with the pricing and the licensing.