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Forcepoint Next Generation Firewall vs Rapid7 InsightIDR comparison

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Categories and Ranking

Fortinet FortiGate
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Average Rating
8.4
Reviews Sentiment
7.2
Number of Reviews
328
Ranking in other categories
Firewalls (2nd), Software Defined WAN (SD-WAN) Solutions (1st), WAN Edge (1st)
Forcepoint Next Generation ...
Average Rating
7.6
Reviews Sentiment
6.7
Number of Reviews
44
Ranking in other categories
Firewalls (27th), Software Defined WAN (SD-WAN) Solutions (11th), WAN Edge (12th)
Rapid7 InsightIDR
Average Rating
8.4
Reviews Sentiment
7.4
Number of Reviews
32
Ranking in other categories
Security Information and Event Management (SIEM) (9th), User Entity Behavior Analytics (UEBA) (2nd), Endpoint Detection and Response (EDR) (18th), Threat Deception Platforms (5th), Extended Detection and Response (XDR) (14th)
 

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Firewalls
Security Information and Event Management (SIEM)
 

Featured Reviews

EhabAli - PeerSpot reviewer
Efficient, user-friendly, and affordable
In the past, NSS Labs was utilized to test files and verify the numbers and datasheets. It would be beneficial to have an organization or testing lab that can verify the numbers in our datasheets since changes are frequently made, which can be inconvenient for review. For instance, when comparing different competitors such as Forcepoint, Palo Alto, and Check Point, the throughput or numbers in the datasheet may be lower than the actual numbers. Conversely, Fortinet typically reports very high numbers, but they cannot be replicated in the real world. Therefore, it would be advantageous for them to partner with a neutral testing organization such as NSS Labs to validate these numbers, thus providing more credibility and comfort to everyone regarding the accuracy of the datasheets. For the migration, everyone has a firewall in use and I am selling Fortinet. Typically, I am replacing another firewall. Previously, there was a tool available to convert configurations from one firewall, such as Palo Alto, to Fortinet, but this tool is no longer free. If it could be made free again, it would be very beneficial. This tool shows a lot of promise and is very good. Making it free would help many companies deliver their products in a more efficient and integrated way. It would also be more valuable to include the tool with the firewall package or license instead of having to pay extra for it. Paying extra puts more pressure on small companies to deliver the firewall and complete the configuration, especially if they have hundreds or thousands of policies. It's very painful to move through these policies line by line. The stability has room for improvement. When it comes to Secure SD-WAN, everything is fine. They are going the right way. SD-WAN is very promising. They can provide the SD-WAN solution separately, but they will not take this approach because even the smallest firewall can support the features, so there is no need to have a separate service or appliance. They are following the right steps, and there is nothing to be improved. Feature-wise, I'm really satisfied with the new release, and the features they have added. For now, it's fine.
OusaidAbaz - PeerSpot reviewer
Provides decent protection for the LAN but complicated interface
We had some licensing issues with its web filtering capabilities. That's why we migrated our web filtering to Cisco Umbrella. Moreover, the interface is complicated. It's difficult to locate all the necessary menus and functions. For example, one of the many issues is with SSH. Even now, we haven't successfully opened the port to connect using SSH mode when we want to change the configuration. It's like a black box—not very open to changes and customization. It's simply not easy to configure. There are other problems, too. For example regarding Forcepoint's Websense component. We had a lot of problems managing the web settings within Websense. That's why we migrated to Cisco Umbrella for cloud-based web filtering. It's not that Forcepoint is inherently bad. The issue is that it's not user-friendly. It is not easy to use. The developers need to redesign the interface (GUI) for better management. It is very difficult to manage. For example, simple actions require too many clicks compared to FortiGate or Palo Alto. That's the main problem.
Asim Naeem - PeerSpot reviewer
Providing comprehensive insight into alerts while working towards AI enhancement
I definitely recommend Rapid7 InsightIDR. It is becoming better, with improvements being continuously made to the product. Right now, I do not have any advice about Rapid7 for other users because every organization or user has different criteria or multiple use cases, so I refrain from commenting on that. I rate the overall solution seven out of ten.

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We asked business professionals to review the solutions they use. Here are some excerpts of what they said:
 

Pros

"The initial setup is easy."
"The initial setup is very straightforward and easy, with wizards helping to configure the device efficiently."
"FortiGate improved our security. It's one of the best hardware firewalls."
"Overall, the pricing of the solution is very good. The product offers good value."
"The SD-WAN function is very developed. It has SD-WAN functionality with security features in one device. We can manage from one single console SD-WAN and the security policy."
"The most valuable feature of Fortinet FortiGate is security. They are known for efficiency and are on the top of Gartner Quadrant reviews. Fortinet FortiGate has an easy-to-use platform with a good graphical interface. The configuration is simple and the solution provides an overall good layer of security."
"Anti-Spam web content filterinG."
"It performs very well."
"Forcepoint is a complete package because it has network and systems applications. Other firewalls are only for the network."
"I have two offices, and I can route the internet of both offices using the same product. The connectivity is great."
"It is a stable solution, and there are no issues so far."
"The most valuable feature of this solution is the support."
"It is a scalable product. I know a customer who has deployed more than 4,000 firewalls in a single deployment."
"When comparing this solution to others this one has better reporting, user management, and is easy to use."
"When our customer needs some optimization, along with performance and security. If they want everything in one package, I recommend Forcepoint because they have everything."
"Forcepoint Next Generation Firewall is very simple, easy to use, and flexible."
"The solution provides satisfying native integration features"
"The solution is very scalable in terms of the licensing model."
"I am able to run automated actions based on the output of reports, leaving me extra time to focus on more pressing matters."
"We were able to identify criminals attempting to login from China and put a stop on their IP locations."
"The solution is very stable and works very well for what I need it to do."
"Features for user behavior analytics and the rules for attack review are good."
"The product works well. Stability-wise, I rate the solution a ten out of ten."
"Very intuitive and easy to set up."
 

Cons

"With the addition of some features, it is possible that FortiGate can be used in all verticals."
"WAN load-balancing could be a lot better at detecting when a link is poor or inconsistent, and not just flat out dead."
"Regarding challenges, customers initially faced issues like internet dropping, but after firmware upgrades, everything worked well."
"The platform's compatibility with Wi-Fi equipment needs improvement."
"Quality control on their firmware versions needs improvement. When they introduce new firmware, there tend to be bugs."
"The customization could be improved. Cisco, for example, is much better at this. They need to work to be at least as good as they are."
"The support from Fortinet FortiGate could improve. They are not easily accessible when we need them. They could improve their response time."
"Lacks sufficient security options."
"They need to increase the local support here. There are also some bugs or fixes on which they need to work. They very well know about these bugs. In terms of licensing, I would like them to either increase the number of features in a single license or make licensing more flexible."
"Next Generation Firewall's configuration could be improved."
"Its management center should be easier to use. The management interface of Forcepoint is unique and a little bit different from some of the firewall solutions on which people might have worked before. Sometimes, the customers say that it is not very friendly, and we help them with how to use this management interface. It just takes a little bit of time, and after some time, it gets easy to manage or use. It is quite similar to Palo Alto, Fortinet, and legacy Juniper solutions. Their support should be faster. We have received complaints that they are not responding fast, which is not good for the vendor and us."
"They need to improve their alerts."
"It's a complicated firewall. Until you come to know the firewall inducers, most people don't like the firewall because the components for the firewall are a little bit complex. User-friendliness is a little bit tough. It needs to be user-friendly when creating policies, and pushing policies. Committing takes more time compared to Palo Alto."
"The endpoint protection capabilities of the product are an area of concern where improvements are required."
"The solution's support could use improvement."
"Forcepoint Next Generation Firewall could change its interface, allowing standard or direct connect modes to be configured."
"The dashboard is an area that could be simplified."
"They should add more configuration and security features to it."
"Sometimes, it is hard to get the right queries to use. Currently, the tool lacks a pre-made set of queries."
"There are certain limitations with Rapid7 that I am working on."
"The main problem lies in the processes within the client's operating systems."
"InsightIDR is only available in a cloud version. Some of our customers prefer an on-prem solution because they want to manage the security within their environment."
"I would like to see more development in InsightIDR towards building their SIEM solution and converting it to XDR."
"Lacks a mobile application."
 

Pricing and Cost Advice

"Fortinet bundles FortiGate with other products and because of this, the price is a little expensive to some SMB enterprises."
"The price is really low. It's cheap in comparison to the cost of Cisco or CheckPoint, for example."
"We find the most valuable aspect of this solution is the price. It is affordable, and cheaper than other firewalls."
"As far as I'm aware, in our case, it's just a yearly pricing arrangement with no additional licensing costs."
"Setup costs and pricing depends on many variables, but it's mostly affordable."
"The price of FortiGate support is too expensive."
"When I look around at other products, such as Sophos, Fortinet FortiGate is 20% to 30% more expensive with our current cost."
"The licensing costs are very low."
"We have just a subscription for the cloud, and this license is great. The license is so good."
"There is a need to make payments towards the licensing charges attached to the product. The product is not expensive."
"The big advantage of this solution is that we can select the right model for our requirements, which is not too expensive."
"It is expensive."
"The pricing of the solution is normally competitive with other products."
"Forcepoint Next Generation Firewall is reasonable, it is priced the same as other firewalls."
"The pricing should be more competitive against other vendors in the market."
"We would love to take other solution from Forcepoint, but unfortunately the price is too high. That's why we are not considering using Forcepoing for our proxy and DLB. They have a very good DLB, but the matter in the end is the cost."
"Licensing is by endpoint and amount of retention time (at least ours is). Default retention was one year, but we are able to push the retention further if needed. There's also a provide-your-own-S3 option for longer retention if you don't want to pay for the additional retention years in your Rapid7 agreement."
"The pricing of the solution depends on the user. But there is a yearly licensing cost."
"The pricing is good, and it is not very expensive."
"It is more reasonably priced than other vendors."
"​I am sure that there are cheaper products out there, but none that meet so many of our needs whilst maintaining stability and usability.​"
"The solution has a mid-range price point in the market"
"It is on a yearly basis. For our own company, for about 250 users, it was 16,000 euros a year."
"Rapid7 InsightIDR is a cheaply priced product. On a scale of one to ten, where one is very expensive, and ten is very cheap, I rate the product's price at seven or eight."
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Top Industries

By visitors reading reviews
Educational Organization
21%
Computer Software Company
14%
Comms Service Provider
7%
Manufacturing Company
6%
Computer Software Company
18%
Financial Services Firm
10%
Manufacturing Company
10%
Government
9%
Computer Software Company
15%
Financial Services Firm
9%
Manufacturing Company
8%
Government
7%
 

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Questions from the Community

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What needs improvement with Forcepoint Next Generation Firewall?
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What SOC product do you recommend?
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During simulations or demonstrations, the tool generates alerts, providing details such as the specific application, ...
 

Also Known As

FortiGate 60b, FortiGate 60c, FortiGate 80c, FortiGate 50b, FortiGate 200b, FortiGate 110c, FortiGate, Fortinet Firewall
Forcepoint NGFW, Stonesoft Next Generation Firewall, McAfee Network Security Platform, Intel Security Network Security Platform
InsightIDR
 

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Sample Customers

Amazon Web Services, Microsoft, IBM, Cisco, Dell, HP, Oracle, Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, Sprint, Vodafone, Orange, BT Group, Telstra, Deutsche Telekom, Comcast, Time Warner Cable, CenturyLink, NTT Communications, Tata Communications, SoftBank, China Mobile, Singtel, Telus, Rogers Communications, Bell Canada, Telkom Indonesia, Telkom South Africa, Telmex, Telia Company, Telkom Kenya
California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation (CDCR)
Liberty Wines, Pioneer Telephone, Visier
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