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it_user680283 - PeerSpot reviewer
System Admin at American electric power
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Stability is better than the other alternatives that we have tried.

What is most valuable?

It provides support for the organization in terms of the commodity hardware as compared to the other HPE competitors. It provides stability for the servers.

What needs improvement?

There is need to always keep trying for improving this product.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

Stability is better than the other alternatives that we have tried. There are always issues but typically, they are resolved very quickly.

How are customer service and support?

Technical support is excellent.

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Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

Experience, knowing which vendor, which division and getting the best results are factors that affected our decision to switch solutions.

Previously, we were using Dell; we had a different vendor, i.e., a lower cost vendor at that time. The reason we switched from Dell was because we felt that the HPE solution was far superior.

The overall value, cost of keeping things running and knowing the product are important criteria while selecting a vendor.

What other advice do I have?

Probably, you should evaluate the total cost of operation before you try and take orders. Check a cheaper solution.

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it_user388956 - PeerSpot reviewer
Systems Architect at a non-tech company with 10,001+ employees
Vendor
Reliable servers which provide good scale and performance for our environment.

What is most valuable?

We value the reliability of these servers.

How has it helped my organization?

These servers have provided good scale and performance for our environment.

What needs improvement?

  • Remote management – the iLO 3 (and 4) are still lagging behind DELL in terms of features and value for money and they still do not have a HTML5 remote console.
  • Firmware reporting is inconsistent – iLO provides no way of loading new firmware for devices other than the iLO itself. iLO has a very basic disk and RAID reporting with no configuration options at all.
  • Out of our many HPE Proliant servers we have had very few failures outside of the common disk failures. We’ve had a few motherboards die but only a very low percentage.

For how long have I used the solution?

We have used this solution for over three years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

We have not encountered any stability issues. These servers have been pretty stable over the years with only one or two minor firmware issues.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

One issue is the way HPE do their drive cage expansion. With two 8-bay cages you need to use an SAS expander which adds cost and requires a PCI-e slot. Only the factory-ordered 25-bay model has this built-in. Other vendors such as DELL typically have the SAS expander built into the backplane which is better in my opinion.

How are customer service and technical support?

Technical support is good. Most support tickets are handled quickly and replacement parts are generally quick to arrive. Sometimes dealing with language difficulties in their helpdesk can be problematic and often there is downtime with “please send me your logs” back and forth. Hopefully this will improve with the new iLO remote support functionality.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We have used previous HPE/HP generations since G1 as far as I can remember. We typically switch at the time of an asset refresh.

How was the initial setup?

Setup was mostly straightforward, although as I mentioned, the iLO could do with providing more control, e.g. RAID/disk configuration like DELL have. Their intelligent provisioning does help a lot, particularly on their Gen9 range.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

The worst part about HPE hardware is their pricing and licensing model. Prices are typically 20% higher than other vendors such as DELL and many of their advanced features are licensed separately, such as iLO advanced and Oneview, adding further cost.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

We evaluated some other options. While we were purchasing a lot of HPE hardware we did consider other vendors but it isn’t always easy when you have invested in HPE tools to manage your server hardware. We have considered DELL and Lenovo.

What other advice do I have?

Get multiple quotes, shop around. Keep your management/monitoring tools as vendor agnostic as possible to allow you to be more flexible in your hardware vendors.

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it_user567570 - PeerSpot reviewer
Operations Manager at a non-tech company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Vendor
Training people to use them is easy. They are reliable and stable.

What is most valuable?

We find it very easy to train people to use them and their reliability is very high. It’s usually cheaper than the competitor. We don't have any one vendor that we always use, so we tend to go out there and look at the best solution based on metrics such as price, quality, reliability, and HPE usually comes out on top.

How has it helped my organization?

Our organization itself is in bit of a transition at the moment. So we're moving towards more up-to-date solutions for our infrastructure. Anything that we do to improve reliability and availability of our services is always good from an IT point of view.

What needs improvement?

We're looking at things like UCS just now and we are looking for what would blend with our UCS deployment. I know that HPE are heavily involved in that, so it's been a lot of consultation and a lot of fun to get all of that to work together.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

Stability is excellent. I've used HPE for best part of 15 years now, including all their data center solutions, and never had any problems. Any problems that do exist are quickly rectified; that's all you need.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

Scalability depends on what you buy into. We are scaling out our sales, so it's a bit of legwork to get it done. There are other options to buy into more of a hyper-converged kit, but we haven't yet done that. We're looking at that kind of stuff.

How is customer service and technical support?

We get our technical support through a third-party.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

We are willing to look at anything. Just now, we do have some Dell and some Cisco kit. We tend to go with major suppliers, rather than any bespoke vendors. We certainly don't have any of the kind of model hyper-converged kit, like SimpliVity, or Nutanix. So across the board, it's either HPE or Dell. We went with HPE because their technical support is of a higher grade. You would get more reliability and better support through HPE.

I've used them for over 15 years now and all data-server solutions and there have been issues, but they have always been solved quickly. Dealing with HPE as a company is always nice to do.

What other advice do I have?

In a vendor, good technical support and product reliability are key. If you ask my head of finance, it will be money. Availability, support, reliance, and reliability are absolute.

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it_user567690 - PeerSpot reviewer
Infrastructure Architect at a manufacturing company with 10,001+ employees
Vendor
Scalable solution that can be customized to match service needs.

What is most valuable?

Scalability and being able to customize the service in just the way that we really want it.

How has it helped my organization?

The benefits are that we can customize what we want. We're able to tailor the actual service itself to our specific requirements. This is opposed to trying to get something off-the shelf which doesn't quite fit and then we have to make compromises.

What needs improvement?

I’d like to see a lower price. That's not the whole 20% difference of why I gave it an 8. One of the negative things that we find is that the configuration tools are sometimes not easy to use. That contributes to the detriment of the score.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

I would rank scalability at about 80%.

How is customer service and technical support?

I have used support. There are certain proprietary information elements which are clearly owned by HPE which are always nice to look at when troubleshooting. There are some items that we understand that they can't share. From a technical point of view, it would be nice to have more visibility and scale.

How was the initial setup?

I was involved in the setup. I think our first installation was okay. When we are buying new models, sometimes the support doesn't feel like it's quite there. That might not necessarily be on the HPE side of things. This lack of support might be from some of the products that we use with it.

What other advice do I have?

We go through software purchasing cycles and we know roughly when, in the lifetime, we need to purchase certain key infrastructure components. We also have the ad hoc requests where we need to get a certain per-line, server-specific, full requirements, and then we buy as we need it.

When selecting a vendor, trust is the main issue. I'd suggest others seriously consider HPE as a service solution. Our experience has been pretty positive. Based upon that I, would recommend HPE products.


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reviewer1517220 - PeerSpot reviewer
Information Technology System Administrator at a energy/utilities company with 10,001+ employees
Reseller
Stable with a straightforward setup and good performance
Pros and Cons
  • "The hardware is reliable."
  • "The solution should work to be more scalable."

What is our primary use case?

We primarily use it for our own servers. Basically, we use it for anything we need to have it for, including our servers, our appliances, and virtualization.

What is most valuable?

The solution has excellent management capabilities. The iLO is very good. It's got excellent stability and provides a solid performance.

The hardware is reliable.

To deploy one server takes less than a day. You don't need too many engineers.

What needs improvement?

The solution should work to be more scalable.

The pricing of the product needs to be better. Right now, it's quite costly.

For how long have I used the solution?

I've been using the solution for five or six years at this point. It's been a good amount of time.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

The scalability varies. However, you need to buy the size, and then you are stuck up to that level for the most part. Gen8 I wouldn't describe as scalable at all as you can't get Sparx for it. The solution is changing, however. Maybe in a few years, you will be able to. However, in general, the scalability is lacking.

We have 50,000 users and they all, in one way or another, use the servers.

We plan to continue to use the solution until its end-of-life.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup is not overly complex. It's pretty straightforward.

To install one server, it takes less than a day. Most of the time there aren't any issues.

You don't need too many people to deploy the product, however, it depends on how many servers you are setting up. For a few servers, you need few engineers and no more than that.

What about the implementation team?

We installed the solution ourselves. We did not need a consultant or implementor to assist us. It was handled in-house.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

The hardware is expensive. It needs to be cheaper. If they could work on that a bit, it would be very helpful to customers.

What other advice do I have?

We use a mix of versions, mostly Gen8 and Gen10.

We've been quite satisfied with the solution overall. It's good hardware. I'd recommend it to organizations that mostly would be using Dell or HP servers.

I'd rate the solution, on a scale from one to ten, at an eight. We've been quite satisfied with the level of performance we get, and their general stability.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

On-premises
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​It is very stable. I can rate it as a 99.99% stable server.
Pros and Cons
  • "​It is very stable. I can rate it as a 99.99% stable server from HPE.​ There is zero downtime, especially in the ProLiant 380 series.​"
  • "The scalability is very high in 380, so instead of using the high-end servers, you can use multiple servers and segregate the applications between the servers. ​"
  • "A better option would be same day support, not next business day."

What is our primary use case?

ML380 ProLiant servers are really excellent servers on the ISMP side. Their performance is very highly satisfying, and it is a good product from HPE. 

How has it helped my organization?

On the SMP side, applying 380 servers, it can handle multiple applications and supports a virtual missions environment. It has a good memory, good power storage facility, a redundant power supply, drives, etc. It is a good product on the SMP side. 

What is most valuable?

Performance is the main feature of this product. For customers, the performance is excellent. It has been performing very well in the DL380 series interaction, and so far now, it is G10, and it is doing well. 

What needs improvement?

We use, the service comes with three year warranty with next business day support. We would like to enhance it with basic service and a better level of support. It is not required in the 380 series, but it is still widely used. So, a better option would be same day support. 

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

It is very stable. I can rate it as a 99.99% stable server from HPE. There is zero downtime, especially in the ProLiant 380 series.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

It is highly scalable, not like the other servers. This server has a virtual capacity. We can virtualize up to 8 servers, which we have done, and it has been good. 

The scalability is very high in 380, so instead of using the high-end servers, you can use multiple servers and segregate the applications between the servers. The performance is excellent in that area.

How is customer service and technical support?

We have used their pre-sales, HPE's pre-support services for installation and services, and even our in-house engineers can work with their tech support as well. HPE support works well within our region. They do their job within the next business day.

How was the initial setup?

Initial setup was straightforward.

What was our ROI?

An investment in DL380 is worth it.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

If you have to include the warranty, enhance the warranty support.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

No, we were just looking at HPE.

What other advice do I have?

Most important criteria when selecting a vendor: 

  1. The vendor guys should know the product well. 
  2. They can recommend the right solution. HPE has a wide range of products in its portfolio. So, the vendor team must know HPE products and provide the right product to the customers.
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it_user680241 - PeerSpot reviewer
Linux Admin at a media company with 10,001+ employees
Real User
Some of the valuable feature are straightforward installation and less downtime.

What is most valuable?

I believe it is much easier when you are trying to install something or trying to figure out any issues with it. Even though the booting up process itself is a little bit slower, it is easier to work with the HPE 360s and 380s.

I like the way the installation process goes. It's much easier to understand what you're doing. It's easy to troubleshoot and if you are stuck with any of the hardware issues, HPE comes on site. They don't come with just one part which is affecting it, but they come with other parts as well. This makes it easy, because they don't have to make multiple visits and the solution will be repaired in just one visit.

How has it helped my organization?

The downtime on the systems is less frequent. If one machine is out of the cluster, we call HPE and tell them about any of the hardware defects that we have. They come up with the parts pretty quickly. The engineer who comes is really knowledgeable and knows what he or she is doing. The process is much faster.

What needs improvement?

I would like to see the booting process be a little bit faster. Instead of going through the circle loading image, it would be more interesting if it would show what it is doing during each stage of the loading process.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The HPE servers are really stable. There are hardly any issues with them. There are rarely any hardware related issues, such disk failures or a need to replace the memory on the server. They are much more stable than other servers that we have used.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

We do scale and the scalability is good. We have thousands of servers.

How are customer service and technical support?

I would give technical support a rating of 8/10.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We have multiple servers, such as from Dell, in addition to the HPE servers. We deal with both of them. My personal preference is HPE, because they are hassle free. The selection of tools is done by solution architects. I don’t take part in that process.

How was the initial setup?

I was not involved in the initial setup, but from what I heard, it was pretty straightforward. It was not that complicated. If it would have been, they would have called an engineer from HPE to help us.

What other advice do I have?

The solution is worth it. You should invest in it, go for it, and have fun with it.

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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Very versatile, scalable, plenty of storage and compute density

The DL380 G7 Server is dual socket, 2U rack server.

Up to Two Intel’s Xeon 5500 or 5600 series processors are supported in this system for up to 12 cores.

A maximum of 18 DIMMs with dual CPUs can support either 384 GBs of RDIMMs , or a maximum of 12 slots for 48 GBs of UDIMMs.

Depending on the processor, this server supports memory speeds of up to 1333MHz

For hard drives, you can use up to 8 hot-plug SFF drives or 16 SFF hot-plug SATA, SSD,or SAS drives.

For storage options, you can use HP’s Integrated Smart Array P410i for RAID 0, 1 or 1+0. Higher levels of RAID are supported with cache modules of 256 or 512MB battery backed cache or with 512MB or 1GB flash backed cache. Add an Advanced Pack License to activate RAID 6 and 6+0 capabilities.

For internal and external storage options, you can choose the P212 or P411 with 2 external x8 SAS ports, or the P812 with 4 ports.

On the front of the DL380 is the power on button, USB ports, optional optical drive depending on your configuration, VGA connection, and system insight display.

On the back of the server are your redundant power supplies, 2 USB connections, VGA, dedicated iLO connection, serial port, quad port LAN, and PS2 connectors.

There are 3 different out put options for power supplies, either a 460W, 750W, or 1200W common slot hot plug power supplies that can be used across a variety of HP Proliant G6 and G7 servers.

A primary PCIe Riser offers 3 on board PCIe gen 2 slots of X16 wired x8 full-length full-height

And two X8 wired x4 half-length, full-height slots.

Optional primary and secondary PCIe or X riser cards can be installed for different expansion card configurations.

Various PCie cards can be installed including Infiniband cards and Fusion IO drives.

Remote management is available with an Integrated Lights Out (iLO) with Advanced License.

The DL380 G7 weighs around 48 to 60 lbs. and is 3.38” tall…….17.54” wide…..and 27.25” deep with SFF drives.

Supported operating systems include Microsoft Windows Server, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, SUSE Linux

Enterprise Server, Oracle Solaris, VMware, and Citrix XenServer.

UPDATE: February 16th, 2016. 

The ROI on this server is increasing because as the price drops, it's capabilities for handling intense workloads is increasing! 


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it_user91356 - PeerSpot reviewer
it_user91356Vice President at a tech vendor with 51-200 employees
Reseller

Mr. Radu,
Thank you for the compliment on the ML370 G4 review video!

The Hp ML370 G4 is compatible with these operating systems

Microsoft Windows Server 2008 Essential Business
Microsoft Windows Server 2008 Small Business
Microsoft Windows Server 2008 W32
Microsoft Windows Server 2008 x64

Please note "R2" is not listed.

Thanks for your question and thank you for watching!

Sincerely,
Chris Rodinis
IT Creations
818 975 3102

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