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it_user523146 - PeerSpot reviewer
Technical Resource Manager at a engineering company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Real User
Enables us to fairly dynamically add resources to the servers, to the LPARS, as we need them

What is most valuable?

The threading, the portability through LPM, the ability for it to easily migrate between the environments, and the power of the chip. The flexibility of the chip, we found pretty nice.

We have the ability to fairly dynamically add resources to the servers, to the LPARS, as we need them; I don't know that other systems have that flexibility. At least from what I've seen.

How has it helped my organization?

It would be the efficiency of the chip, the ability to handle a phenomenal amount of load for not a lot of money. At the end of the day, that's what it comes down to.

What needs improvement?

What I'd like to see would be more of a usage-based licensing model. COD got close, but you still have to buy the basic things, and you can't turn them off really well. Then they came out with being able to use it for 30 days. After that, you might as well just buy the processor.

It would be nice to each month go through and say, "Okay. This is what we're using," pay for it, true up, and be much more like that cloud-ish type thing with an on-prem. With all the benefits of being on-prem.

How are customer service and support?

Excellent. They're usually knowledgeable.

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Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

I inherited it. We use it because it's been performing well. In our world, we essentially have POWER systems or Intel-based applications, and we generally find the compute and the processing power, and the ability to handle the load, is far better on the POWER systems.

How was the initial setup?

In terms of upgrades, we've gone through multiple iterations. It was complex, but it was intuitive. We have an AIX team. They were able to upgrade the environment. Stand up the new environment. We were able to use LPM to migrate the load over from the old POWER7 to POWER8. It worked pretty well.

What was our ROI?

We don't really measure because we lease the system, so we have a natural opportunity. I would expect that if we went back and we tracked the performance per dollar spent, we would see a return on investment improvement.

What other advice do I have?

We have two POWER E850s and one E870. Most of our transactional systems, engineering, they're mostly out-of-the-box applications. PeopleSoft, Siebel, engineering applications.

I consider IBM to be a market leader in the server sector. They need to keep creating a price-effective system that competes with commodity hardware, which I believe they've done so far.

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Senior Pre-Sales Manager at PT GLOBAL INFOTECH SOLUTION
Real User
Easy to install with good capabilities and less downtime
Pros and Cons
  • "The installation is easy."
  • "The solution is quite expensive."

What is most valuable?

We've been very satisfied with the solution's capabilities. 

The installation is easy.

It's very stable. There is less downtime.

The product can scale. 

What needs improvement?

The compatibility with other products could be better. They have a proprietary package to install on the server. With the application or the database, you can install on top of it.

Some competitors may have more features or a certain advantage over this product.

The solution is quite expensive.

We'd like the solution to have a cloud base. Most of it is on-premises.

For how long have I used the solution?

I've used the solution for almost ten years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

It's very stable. They have a different Hypervisor compared to an Intel-based Hypervisor, like VMware or Red Hat. The Red Hat Enterprise Virtualization is like an embedded Hypervisor, so you don't have to rest up the server. If you ever install the packets or any update, it does not require you to rest up the server. It's more stable, and you don't need more downtime.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

Maybe the entry level is not very scalable. However, if you are using the enterprise level, like Power E-series, the enterprise series, not the entry-level, it's very scalable. Within the core or maybe the memory, and also the IO, it's very scalable.

How are customer service and support?

In Indonesia, they have local support, however, maybe for certain products, the support is just not as good as the main product, like the Power System or Storage. Maybe for another product, the support is very limited.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We worked with IBM products, among others. 

How was the initial setup?

The installation is very simple. 

From the installer, you install the machine. Maybe you want to install the operating system. It's quite different from Windows or Linux since this is Unix-based.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

Compared to Intel, IBM Power Systems is more expensive compared to Intel. Still, if you compare the TCO or the license that you can save using IBM Power, the pricing is almost the same with the Intel base, however, it depends on the application license or the database license. 

In general, the pricing is quite high.

What other advice do I have?

I manage the product at the company. I'm a consultant. We deal mostly with enterprise-level organizations. I'm an IBM partner.

If a company wants to implement the IBM System, maybe it has to check the compatibility of the apps and the DB. Also, if they want to implement the TCO, they have to check the TCO compared to the Intel base. Sometimes, they are only checking the base hardware installation. If they implement the DB or the apps, the pricing may be reduced since the core in Power System is more powerful than the Intel base.

I'd rate the solution eight out of ten.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

On-premises
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Senghak Ky - PeerSpot reviewer
Head Of Information Security at Sathana Bank
Real User
Has good performance and is stable and scalable
Pros and Cons
  • "We've been using it for a long time, and it's stable."
  • "I think the cost should be cheaper."

What is our primary use case?

We use it to run our important systems and applications.

What is most valuable?

I think the performance is good.

What needs improvement?

I think the cost should be cheaper.

For how long have I used the solution?

I've been using this solution for more than five years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

We've been using it for a long time, and it's stable.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

It is scalable. We have about 1000 users.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

There is a yearly licensing cost, and it's an expensive solution.

What other advice do I have?

I recommend IBM Power Systems to those who are interested in having the hardware. I would rate it at eight on a scale from one to ten.

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it_user758148 - PeerSpot reviewer
Director of technology at a tech services company with 10,001+ employees
Consultant
Our customers are seeing ROI in their move from POWER7 to POWER8

What is most valuable?

I am happy with the performance. Now that we are moving to Linux on Power, I'm really surprised at how fast it is, compared to AIX, seeing them side by side. Linux doesn't have all of the wrapping around it that AIX does to provide various security measures and things of that nature, so it can run much faster.

What needs improvement?

The improvements that I would like to see are probably the same as what everyone else wants, more speed, less electricity and less HVAC required to run it.

For how long have I used the solution?

We have been using POWER8 since it came out in 2014. We are using POWER8 and POWER7. We are really off of six at this point. I am just waiting for POWER9 now.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

Well, from what I have done with it, it's pretty nice and very easy to do all that.

How is customer service and technical support?

Excellent, really excellent. They try really hard to make sure the tech guys who are going to do the service and support are brought up to speed before it goes out and hits the market. Although they can only go so far with that and some things just have to be learned once it's out in the field, it's pretty impressive how ready they are when it hits the market.

How was the initial setup?

Upgrading the hardware from one version to another was pretty simple but the software, not so much.

What was our ROI?

This doesn't really apply to me, but I certainly think the customers are seeing ROI in their move from seven to eight. I don't know anybody who moved to eight and said, "Darn, I wish I had stuck with seven." They seem to be pretty happy and that's usually the best measure, right?

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

I didn't get to choose, it's the platform that I was given to work on. But if I had to choose, I'd probably choose Power anyway. I like that it's not Intel because we have a monoculture in CPU's.

What other advice do I have?

We are on AIX and we're starting to move to Power Linux. That's new for us this year. It's marketing requirements. The customers are voting, they are requesting it.

The UNIX market, in general, is shrinking and Linux is not considered UNIX. I'm not sure it's so similar, but it's a different kernel. They don't want to go to Windows either, so you're running out of choices so they move to Linux. If we want to stay viable, we have to do that as well. 

AIX will always have a spot. If you look at the history of all the problems with these platforms, Linux, in its young life, already has way more than AIX. If that's your thing, if you want it to be rock solid, then you are going to stick with AIX forever, as long as you possibly can. But a lot of people are making the jump, a jump into Linux. We are jumping too.

The Open Power Foundation has brought about advances by introducing new ideas. As I mentioned earlier with the monoculture thing, you get the same group of people who work on these things forever and they are really smart, they get out and they read books, and they get all the information they can, but you really need that stimulus from outside. You need to come to conferences, you need to get around and involved with more people. That is why Opensource works so well. It's the same idea. You need that diversity of opinion and thought to really get the best out of it. I think if we are going to see really big leaps forward on the Power platform, it's going to come from that.

I definitely think that IBM is a market leader in the server sector. I think what they need to do is stick with the open approach that they have adopted over the years. That is really the only way that works anymore. I think the days of enterprise companies being completely closed are just about gone and I'm glad they are. You just get so much better work out of the community.

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it_user758169 - PeerSpot reviewer
Sys admin at a retailer with 1,001-5,000 employees
Real User
We used the CUoD feature to enable four more cores on our server

What is most valuable?

I just like the levels of redundancy that are there. Your power's redundant, your pathing's redundant. You can split up your buses, split up your expansion units. It's hard to take those boxes down, really. So, if they are up they'll run for years.

One other thing I really like is how they are going to integrate the HMCs into the frames now, so you don't have a standalone appliance, it's just built into the frame. I haven't worked with anything like that yet but hopefully soon.

How has it helped my organization?

One of the big things I've seen is that you can dynamically move devices or processor memory, capacity on demand, things like that. We actually just used the CUoD feature this past year. We enabled four more cores on our server. It kinda got us out of a gray spot.

For me, as an AS/400 I series guy, I think there's a lot of benefits to that OS. I think a lot of users really like it, despite the green screens. But after you get working with it, you're very familiar with it. So, to me, the hardware's there and I think the AS/400 or iSeries OS is very good as well.

What needs improvement?

I would like for there to be more clarity around the licensing. You'll get your PVUs and CPWs and some apps are licensed on one, some are on another.

For how long have I used the solution?

That box has probably been running for us for over 10 years. I've been working with Power directly for over five years.

I primarily work with Power 570, and so we're running some of our AS/400 on it with IBM i. We are also running POWER8 in the right spots in our environment. I'm kind of known as the legacy track but I'm glad to have the 570 anyway.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The stability is beyond belief. You can't beat it. 

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

We experience issues every once in a while. I think it's more due to our applications and how we're licensed that sometimes we have to get a little crafty there.

How is customer service and technical support?

They're very strong. And especially the FSRs that come out. Those guys have been working with Power boxes for decades.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

No, we are pretty set with IBM Power. We're running AIX and SAP all on Power boxes.

What other advice do I have?

I definitely see IBM as a market leader in the server industry in regards to their hardware. There is a lot of talk about them going more open-source and I think they are there, running Linux on Power and being more actively involved with that user group. But that's maybe a catch-22 as well, but I think they are leveraging that and that is what is going to take them forward.



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it_user758163 - PeerSpot reviewer
Systems admin at a individual & family service with 1,001-5,000 employees
Vendor
Runs all our enterprise systems reliably, no unexpected downtime

What is most valuable?

The reliability is the main thing. Reliability and ease of use. The cost of ownership is down too.

How has it helped my organization?

It runs all our enterprise systems and because of the reliability, we don't have the same issue with downtime and unexpected downtime that other companies may have. I have been there for 10 years, running the Power, and we've had three unexpected experiences of downtime in 10 years.

What needs improvement?

We just want to see continued reliability and performance. And continued value for the price. The licensing could be simplified.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using Power for 10 years. I have POWER7 and POWER8 and I use them for IBM i. We also have an 822L and Linux Red Hat. We started using Power on Linux a few months ago. We moved to it mainly because of the reliability.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

It's got all the scalability I need. I can add on to to the box that I've got. Scale it out from where I'm at.

How are customer service and technical support?

I have not had any problems with technical support. They have all done well every time I have needed them.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We were using Power5.

How was the initial setup?

It was pretty straightforward. I have been doing this a long time, so it is pretty straightforward for me. There are more hardware things now that I've moved to external storage. It does become a little more complex there.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

The licensing has improved over the years. I've been working with IBM for 30-plus years. The licenses have gotten better. We are experiencing some issues with Linux licensing between the different flavors, between Ubuntu and Red Hat, and which license you need for which machine, so that's getting to become a little complex.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

No.

What other advice do I have?

The OpenPOWER Foundation has brought many advantages. There are a lot more things available now, carried over from other industries.

I personally do consider IBM to be a market leader in servers. In order to maintain that position they just need to continue the performance and the reliability.

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Pre-Sales Engineer at AMH CONSULTING
Reseller
Top 20
Stable product with good availability and visibility
Pros and Cons
  • "It is a very scalable solution."
  • "Its pricing could be better."

What is most valuable?

The solution's most valuable features are speed and capacity on demand. It works faster than Intel Power Processor.

What needs improvement?

They should improve the solution's pricing. Also, they should provide proper documentation to understand the setup process.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using the solution for more than two years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

It is a stable solution.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

It is a very scalable solution as it has capacity on demand. We can activate many features depending on the business requirements.

How are customer service and support?

The solution’s technical support team is good.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

I have worked with Lenovo Server, HP Server, Dell Server, and SolarWinds earlier.

How was the initial setup?

The solution’s initial setup was complex.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

The solution's native server is not much expensive. But, the additional software required for visualization and data protection is highly-priced.

What other advice do I have?

The solution is suitable for prevention and maintenance. If you have the budget and a knowledgeable executive to manage the system, you should buy IBM Power Systems. I rate it a nine out of ten for its availability and visibility.

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Deputy director at Central Bank of Nigeria
Real User
Great uptime feature and scalable with very high availability
Pros and Cons
  • "The uptime feature is great."
  • "The solution is quite expensive."

What is our primary use case?

We use it to run our current infrastructure and its core and resource planning applications.

What is most valuable?

The uptime feature is great, and their availability is very high. Since we have been using it, we have not experienced any downtime.

For how long have I used the solution?

We have been using this solution for more than ten years and are using the Power8 version. It is deployed on-premises.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

It is stable, and it has 100% uptime.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

It is scalable, and we have a process on demand. Whenever we need additional resources, we pay for the activation. We have close to 10,000 users, and we do not have any plans to increase our users.

How are customer service and support?

The technical support is a direct line, and they are responsive.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We found IBM to be more robust and able to meet our use cases.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup took us time because we migrated from a legacy to a power system. The migration took us about one week. The OEM IBM provided the consultant that did the installation.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

The solution is quite expensive, and deploying it was also expensive. The pricing could be lower.

What other advice do I have?

I rate this solution a nine out of ten.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

On-premises
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