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Senior System Analyst at Thakral
Reliable, stable and high-performing
Pros and Cons
- "Power Systems' best features are that it's reliable, stable, and easily available. It's also really scalable and can be virtualized without third-party software support."
- "The price is a bit high and could be improved."
What is our primary use case?
What is most valuable?
Power Systems' best features are that it's reliable, stable, and easily available. It's also really scalable and can be virtualized without third-party software support. Power Systems has its own PowerVM where you can make VMs and have multiple systems in the same server, which benefits customers in terms of licensing.
What needs improvement?
The price is a bit high and could be improved.
For how long have I used the solution?
I've been working with Power Systems since 2012.
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What do I think about the stability of the solution?
PowerSystems is very reliable, it has very little downtime, so we don't have to worry about it going down or performing badly.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
Power Systems is really scalable.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup is very straightforward - we migrated one bank in three days. The software is also 100% record compatible, so we don't have to think about compatibility and worry that older things won't work.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
Power Systems is a bit more costly than other products in the market, but in terms of ROI and the longevity, performance, and reliability that Power Systems provides, it's worth it in the long run.
What other advice do I have?
PowerSystems is better than all other systems in the market, and I would recommend it to anybody whose application does not have a dependency in the operating system and machine. I would rate PowerSystems as ten out of ten.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
On-premises
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Computer Engineer at GCE
Great performance, a huge capacity for memory, and has a very good PowerVC
Pros and Cons
- "The performance is the solution's most valuable asset. It has one of the highest levels of performance I have ever seen. It's quite remarkable, in that sense."
- "It would be ideal if the solution was more simple to work with."
What is our primary use case?
We primarily use the solution for its use as a bank and commercial solution. We use it for core banking and for day-to-day work on the DBA, the database.
What is most valuable?
The performance is the solution's most valuable asset. It has one of the highest levels of performance I have ever seen. It's quite remarkable, in that sense.
The memory is great. We can have a huge amount of memory. However, the main reason to work with the solution is the performance, since inter-servers cannot be compared with the cores of both systems.
The PowerVC make it so simple since we can deal with it just like VMware, just like virtual machines, and it's really simple.
What needs improvement?
The solution is currently working on the old PowerVCs. We welcome this improvement.
It would be ideal if the solution was more simple to work with.
The initial setup is difficult.
For how long have I used the solution?
I've been dealing with the solution for about two years now.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
I haven't found the solution to have any stability problems. I don't think I can recall dealing with bugs or glitches that disrupted our work. The system doesn't freeze or crash. It's quite reliable and offers great performance.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
Scaling the solution is possible and would be quite easy. Companies that need to scale up can do so with this IBM product.
How are customer service and technical support?
We've had to reach out to technical support in the past. The level of service they offer has been quite good. We've been very happy with them so far.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup is not straightforward. It's quite complex, especially for those implementing it for the first time. While it will never be simple, per se, it does get easier the more setups you end up performing.
A non-tech person would simply not be able to handle the implementation. You will need someone that's knowledgable.
Not just the implementation, but the registration, and many other parts of the deployment take a rather long time. It's not a quick process. If we're just talking about the installation with servers, you are looking at four or five days right there. However, if you factor in migration or other administrations, you are looking at a one to three-month deployment timeframe.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
We're partners. We have a business relationship with IBM.
I'd advise others considering the product that, while it is pricy, you can't beat the performance you get on it.
I'd recommend the solution for big databases and high-performance applications.
I'd rate the solution eight out of ten. If it wasn't so complex, I'd give the solution higher marks. Most people nowadays look for simplicity and they want to have non-technical people deal with everything, just like a cloud solution. However, you need someone specialized in order to handle it.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
While the solution is quite expensive, the level of service provided is second to none. It makes it worth the price.
What other advice do I have?
We tend to use the on-premises deployment model as cloud versions are not very popular in Jordan.
We primarily sell the solution to clients.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
On-premises
Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: Partner
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Engineer at a insurance company with 1,001-5,000 employees
We run our financial environment on it and performance is key; we can't miss getting quarterly numbers out
What is most valuable?
It just works. I don't know how else to explain it. We don't have a lot of issues with it. It handles our enterprise systems well.
How has it helped my organization?
Performance. We run our financial environment on it and there are key dates you always have to hit. Performance is key there, when we close the quarters and the like. You can't risk missing dates for getting your numbers to the street.
What needs improvement?
I could see a benefit in some organizations if licensing were more cloud oriented. We're not big in the cloud yet. I guess at some point that would probably help.
Pricing has room for improvement. It's definitely more competitive now than it was. That was an issue we had a while back where you'd look at the cost and it was just so much more for it. It was a hard sell.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
No issues.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
No issues.
How is customer service and technical support?
Support is good. I think it used to be much better. Sometimes it takes too long to get to the right person. You have to go through too many levels to get to the person you need, that has that skill set. I understand that, there's level-three, and you have to escalate and it takes time.
How was the initial setup?
Straightforward.
What was our ROI?
We have been seeing a return on investment in the moves from version to version due to better performance and they cut the licensing costs down.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
It was only Power for the most part. We started with it a long time ago. The rest of our environment runs on Linux, SUSE and Redhat for application web servers.
What other advice do I have?
We use it for AIX. We actually just got P850s but they were refreshed.
I consider IBM to be a market leader in the server industry but to maintain that position pricing is the main thing, to be able to compete with Linux. It's difficult on x86. But on the side of trying to sell it to management, they just look at costs a lot of the time and it's a tough sell; they don't really deal with the reliability of the system's performance.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Aix lead at a manufacturing company with 10,001+ employees
The flexibility to run multiple operating systems on the same hardware and the speed are key for us
What is most valuable?
I like the processor speed. I don't think that there's a match for it out there. I like the use of the Hypervisor and the VIO functions that you can utilize. I just don't think that there's anything out that matches it, and it's easy to implement.
How has it helped my organization?
The flexibility of it, being able to run multiple OS's on it. I can run Linux on it, I can run i on it, I can run AIX on it, and it's all on the same physical hardware. Being able to do that, it just gives us a lot of flexibility in that area.
What needs improvement?
I know that they are doing a lot with Linux, so maybe a more direct way of converting to Linux on some applications; some way to actually sell it a little bit better. Because you still get into the expense of going to the Power hardware, but if you're already on the Power hardware, I don't see the issue. A lot of people just don't seem to want to progress onto Linux, but they want to keep Linux on the Wintel or Intel devices. And to me, you just don't get the chips and the ability of the chips that you get on AIX, and on the Power hardware.
For how long have I used the solution?
We've been using Power since I've been with the company. I've been there 16 years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
AIX is very stable. Our whole Power system has been very stable. We very rarely have outages. Most of the outages have not been attributed to the hardware, it's more attributed to network or SAN.
Now we have had some hardware outages, but those are based on doing maintenance such as firmware upgrades, and the like. Those have caused issues, but you know when those are happening because you've already had them scheduled. So you know to be prepared for it, what work will be done.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
We have not had any issues with our scalability.
How is customer service and technical support?
Technical support is good. When you find the right people, they are very knowledgeable. But you have to know to get the right one, you have to explain your issue properly, that way you can get to the right person.
How was the initial setup?
I feel upgrades are straightforward, especially the AIX upgrades. Because, unlike with Windows, you have all the small fix packs, most of the time you're either doing a major TL or a service pack. I feel that that is much easier than having to go through doing all of the small pieces.
What was our ROI?
In terms of the upgrades of AIX and the Power from the 7 to the 8, I did see a return of the investment because we have a small Oracle data base running on some of our apps. To be able to take it from the POWER7 where you're using .1 CPU - this is just in development - that you could take it down to .05 CPU and double the number of LPARs that you have, that is a very good feature.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
We do have a lot of Wintel as well, so it's more of a mix and match. Yes, other things have been considered. We went with IBM because we have been with IBM hosting, and one of our main apps is running on AIX. We would have to do a lot to convert it. So it seems to be running fine where it is.
What other advice do I have?
We're running on POWER7s and POWER8. We started with POWER4, and moved up. In fact, we started with 7028s and 7013s at one time. We've been in the business a good while. We're using it for AIX and now we're using it for i as well.
I think the Power system uniquely positions our company with the speed it has, and the processing power. I think it keeps our app running at a maximum output, and that keeps the company running better.
I do consider IBM to be a market leader. I would say for them to maintain it, to me, I don't like the thing of following the trend of everybody, everybody's trying to go in this direction, that direction. I feel like sometimes you can just improve on your product, and that will increase your market share, versus following the trend of everyone else.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Senior engineer systems admin at a comms service provider with 1,001-5,000 employees
It has improved the stability of our Oracle database
What is most valuable?
- The Live Partition Mobility (LPM) feature.
- The virtualization feature.
Depending on the simplified remote restart for the DR, that's what we're looking forward to.
How has it helped my organization?
It has improved the stability of the Oracle database. We have a big database running in a Power environment and it is more stable than compared to what we are adding.
What needs improvement?
I would say the cost. They need to work on the cost because I think it's quite expensive and that's a changing trend in the industry, to be more focused on the product.
For how long have I used the solution?
I started using Power when I started at T-Mobile three years ago. They had POWER5, and we migrated them to POWER6. So it has been about three years, maybe a little longer.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
For the scalability, we do have the capacity planning and we do plan accordingly and I think we would go for POWER9 if we had to, depending on the usage. I think there is still scalability room for us.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
I think T-Mobile has a big shop of Intel for Linux servers and they have Power for AIX servers.
How was the initial setup?
I wasn't involved in the initial setup because we have an SME who does that and I'm just an engineer at the back end. I do the operations support, so that's where I come into the picture.
What was our ROI?
We do see ROI from the move from POWER7 to POWER8. We do capacity management and we are able to move quite a lot of workload.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
Would I prefer a license based on a cloud system?
We have Pivotal Cloud Foundry (PCF) and that's more for the application side. I haven't dug into this more to check how the database would do on the cloud so I'm not sure about that.
What other advice do I have?
We are using AIX with POWER8 but we do have a mix of POWER7 servers as well.
We do capacity planning, and we try to maintain the Power capacity monitoring and to maintain that we've got enough capacity for a year worth of workload. We plan ahead as well for the coming workload. What we've got is enough for one more year.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Aix Linux lead
The most efficient hardware I've ever worked with and the easiest to scale
What is our primary use case?
What is there not to like about it? It works every time. You hardly ever have any real issues. It's fast, the most efficient hardware I've ever worked with. I like Power because I think it just works the best.
What needs improvement?
You absolutely have to get that better performance all the time. The managers are always saying, "Well, let's make it faster, faster, faster."
For how long have I used the solution?
I've been using Power since the birth of Power. I've been in it for 24 years. When I first started it was all Micro Channel and I've been along through the evolution right up through to the POWER8s and new, coming POWER9s. I've ever only been interested in working with IBM products.
We're using it for AIX and we also are setting up some SAP HANA on some 870s.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
Everyone has an issue at some point, but over the 24 years I've been in this, I have seen very few issues, which is why I really like their product over everyone else.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
Scalability has always been kind of a key factor. There's no good product if it's not scalable, and Power is the easiest-to-scale product I've ever worked with.
How is customer service and technical support?
Depends on which technical support you get. With all the different places I've been you really get the Advocate Program or you don't. If you're in the Advocate Program you get the top help right away. Their tech support with the Advocate Program is awesome.
If you're not in the Advocate Program you have to go through the series of the lower-level tech support, and usually they're not really helpful. In most cases I've ended up figuring out what the problem was before they had an answer.
How was the initial setup?
Regarding upgrades they're generally pretty straightforward. We use NIM to do our upgrades. All you do is create your new lpp_source SPOT and, if you're going from version to version, use nimadm and alt disk - you've got it covered.
We have a Linux team does all the Linux, but we're working with them to help them install the Linux.
What was our ROI?
In terms of a return on investment from upgrading from a previous version of AIX to the current version, from a financial standpoint I don't really see a difference.
But for performance, it's not so much just the performance, it's the new features that come in the code that makes it appealing to me.
What other advice do I have?
Regarding their being a market leader, I think they've always been in front of all their competitors. Maybe if they made some of their web components a little easier to utilize, that would make me happier.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Sys admin at a financial services firm with 10,001+ employees
It facilitates extra redundancy and we run our critical applications on it
What is most valuable?
Primarily the reliability. I can set up a system and it runs until we decide to get rid of it.
How has it helped my organization?
The reliability is one. We have a lot of extra redundancy built into Power and we run our critical applications on there so it protects our brand and our business.
For how long have I used the solution?
Since POWER4.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
We are very happy with the performance.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
No, we have not.
How is customer service and technical support?
It's very good. They are knowledgeable and there is always a point of contact.
What was our ROI?
POWER8 definitely handles the workload better than POWER7 did, as far as the threading between having a lot of partitions running in a system. There is less impact when the system doesn't bog down, when a lot of applications are running.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
Licensing is not an issue but it is something that we are being asked for from our leadership. Because usage fluctuates all the time, they want to know that they are only paying for what they are using. And we're all competing against the cloud vendors now.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
No. We have been running on Power ever since we went to SAP.
What other advice do I have?
I am using POWER8 for AIX and Linux.
I wouldn't say that Power uniquely positions our company in the industry. We run all of our internal applications on it and we keep our business running with it.
As far as IBM being a market leader, I would think that they are certainly one of the players, I don't know if they are the leader or not. In order to be a market leader I think IBM would have to get into more shops and get the word out there. It's kind of like the Windows mentality, a lot people go with what they know or what they see advertised.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Sys admin at a retailer with 1,001-5,000 employees
It's even more flexible with the ability to create an environment in a few minutes
What is most valuable?
It's flexible and it's reliable.
What needs improvement?
They can make it easier to do the patching and iFixes, which is especially important now, with all of the security issues. That would provide a lot of relief.
For how long have I used the solution?
I recently joined the team, but I think they started moving to Power about a year ago, at least.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
We are very happy with Power's performance.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
No, absolutely not. Especially now, with the VC, it's even more flexible with the chance to create an environment in a few minutes, especially for testing.
How are customer service and technical support?
Pretty good. We had a few engagements with the labs.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
We have always used Power.
How was the initial setup?
Thanks to the labs, the migration from POWER7 to POWER8 was easy.
What was our ROI?
We were able to reduce to a single frame.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
I don't really wish the licensing was more cloud-based. It is not really an issue. It could be.
What other advice do I have?
I'm using POWER8 right now and migrating some of the POWER7 systems. I am using it with AIX and IBM i. Mostly the core is IBM i. We have an e-commerce website and it is running on AIX.
I don't know how IBM could maintain their status as a market leader in the servers sector, but I would like to see more young people at this kind of event, the IBM Power Conference. That would probably help.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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