The new thing which we have brought is LPM. Although it was available with POWER7 as well, but that does help us out a lot.
Technical Architect
LPM is very helpful in our environment and our customers are happy with the performance
What is most valuable?
How has it helped my organization?
Honestly, the customer is always happy if he gets good performance.
What needs improvement?
I would like to have some stats where the CPU is getting utilized and to see how much of the actual CPU I'm using. It's like hypervisor stats which I should be getting.
Also, if I could get a similar thing on a cloud, so I could switch from cloud to datacenter, datacenter to cloud. It should have that flexibility somewhere.
For how long have I used the solution?
About three years.
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What do I think about the stability of the solution?
No, we've never had any issue in terms of stability. It's always better. We don't see unexpected outages. So, that's the best thing.
How are customer service and support?
It's good. We normally have them for problems with the hard drive, and for the software it is also fine.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
Some of our colleagues that attended the conferences, they were excited about the new features, that's the reason we brought the POWER8 into our system.
How was the initial setup?
I don't think we know IBM initial setup because we have some colleagues working for a long time and they have much experience with this kind of set up.
It was straightforward.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
We have done testing with Intel, we have done testing with POWER, and the performance we were getting with POWER is actually very good compared to what we were getting on the other systems. So that's the actual background.
What other advice do I have?
Majorly, what we have is on POWER8. We have POWER systems, we others for development and testing, environment hosted, but all the production is majorly on POWER8.
Currently, I see IBM as a market leader in the server sector. And I see, there are a lot of other options that are coming, such as cloud-based, AWS and the like. We are people who like to test and see if we keep the same thing for a longer period on the market.
To continue to be a market leader, I personally think IBM should be on the cloud, more in the cloud space. That is something that they should do much faster now.
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VP Innovation at a tech services company with 11-50 employees
Very secure, extremely scalable, and offers helpful technical support
Pros and Cons
- "I can have what they call multi-tenancy, meaning that I can have multiple tenants within the same server."
- "If you asked me what I'd like added, I'd say that it'd be nice if they ran GPUs, however, I know that's not the direction they're going. That said, I would appreciate it if they offered GPU support."
What is our primary use case?
We primarily use the solution for running an ERP. Use cases can go from very small to very big. I'm talking about a hardware device, and therefore it can run all kinds of different software. The virtualization is outstanding. It can go from very, very small to very, very big. We personally use it so that we can use multi-tenancy.
I can have multiple clients on one server and I can cut it up into tiny pieces. Where a customer would normally have to buy, let's say, one solution for a hundred thousand dollars, instead, they can share that a hundred thousand dollars with five other customers as one customer doesn't actually need a complete server. Clients can share it for cost reasons.
What is most valuable?
It's very secure.
I can have what they call multi-tenancy, meaning that I can have multiple tenants within the same server.
The reliability of the solution has been excellent.
The solution is stable.
Technical support is exceptional.
The scalability is very, very good.
What needs improvement?
I've worked with the solution for a very long time, and therefore, when it comes to the things that it doesn't support, I've accepted that and I understand why they won't. If you asked me what I'd like added, I'd say that it'd be nice if they ran GPUs, however, I know that's not the direction they're going. That said, I would appreciate it if they offered GPU support.
It used to have it and they pulled it out. That's something that's missing from it, however, there are workarounds.
For how long have I used the solution?
I've been working with this product for 35 years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
The solution is very stable. There are no bugs or glitches. the security is excellent and the performance is good.
I literally have customers that have a server like this in a cupboard and they don't even know where their server is as it just keeps running.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
The scalability on offer is excellent. It's very easy to scale and works well for small to large organizations.
How are customer service and support?
Technical support is excellent. We have been very happy with the level of service we get.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup is very simple and straightforward. It's not complex. A company shouldn't have any issues with the implementation.
In terms of maintenance, we have a large staff, however, that's necessary due to the fact that we support so many clients. You need an administrator and it depends on how many clients you have, how many administrators you need. For a lot of our clients, we sell them one of these servers, and then we do all the work for them. We install it and then we do the administration. You need the appropriate administrators when you have this product. Small clients may need one administrator, whereas larger ones might need three or four.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
We also work with Lenovo.
What other advice do I have?
We are a reseller of IBM and Lenovo equipment. We are on the infrastructure side, mostly on the hardware side.
We sell systems to clients, however, we also have a cloud environment that we sell to clients using that equipment. We always say to customers, we sell what to them what we use ourselves.
We use versions seven to ten.
There are a lot of well-kept secrets to this product that a lot of people are not aware of and do not leverage all of the features that are available on the system. Therefore, if a company is looking to implement this solution, it should do some research. Go to user groups to speak to other users to find out about those well-kept secrets, free of charge.
I'd rate the solution a perfect ten out of ten. It's outstanding. It's so reliable. I have customers that run it that never touch it. It runs for 20 years by itself in a closet. It runs their entire business.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
Hybrid Cloud
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It's definitely scalable, you can go from a small model to as large as you need to go
What is most valuable?
Speaking from the IBM i perspective, it's a very well-integrated database, a well-designed power system. Plus, the Power gives us the performance that we need at a low cost.
How has it helped my organization?
I think we are able to run our entire organization on a smaller machine than if we had multiple Intel servers. The software that's available for the Power Systems also gives us our industry edge.
What needs improvement?
It does everything that we require though we would like it to be faster.
I would also like to see a small developer model come out that I could purchase on my own to develop application software.
For how long have I used the solution?
Probably six years.
We are using POWER7 with IBM i to run our enterprise applications. We have been thinking of upgrading to POWER8, but at this point we are going to wait and just update to the POWER9.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
No.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
It's definitely scalable. You can go from a small model all the way up to as large as you need to go.
How is customer service and technical support?
For the most part it's good, when you can get to second-level support. Usually, when you call first-level you get somebody in India who doesn't always know what they're talking about. So generally, you have to escalate it to second-level to get a good response.
What was our ROI?
We had maxed out our earlier versions, and when we moved to a POWER7 we saw a definite performance increase. It was able to take care of some of the bottlenecks that we were experiencing. In terms of power usage and space it's been great as well.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
No, we are staying with the IBM Power Systems.
What other advice do I have?
I definitely view IBM as a market leader. I think where they fall down is in their marketing, getting their message out to other people. Because not too many people are aware of how great a system the Power is. You've got a lot of competition in the Intel world that somehow seems to get more marketing out there.
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Solution consultant
TCO is highly competitive, if not always the best, especially for a per-core priced database
What is most valuable?
We like the resiliency, we like the flexibility, the speed of the processor.
How has it helped my organization?
It brings reliability. Rarely do we have failures.
TCOs is highly competitive, if not always the best, especially if you're running a per-core priced database.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
No issues. Very stable.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
Highly scalable. No issues scaling.
How is customer service and technical support?
I'd say they were been better in the past. Obviously it depends who you get. You need to know how to drive your support calls to get maximum effectiveness but, on a one to 10 scale, I'd give them a six.
They could improve responsiveness, ownership of problems, and technical acumen on the first level.
How was the initial setup?
Hardware migrations: logical partition mobility. Move it right onto the next platform.
Software x updates are pretty straightforward. I don't have much experience with i. And Linux is Linux.
What was our ROI?
In terms of the AIX, we are definitely seeing a return on investment from moving from original versions of Power to POWER8, in performance. And we're definitely getting a per-core gain by moving to POWER8. In addition, the whole I/O speeds in general are improving.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
We've primarily beem a Power shop. There have been other considerations, for x86. We were sing Linux on Intel before Power. We chose IBM because of total cost of ownership.
It's always been the platform for enterprise applications and go-to production systems that need that sort of reliability to run.
What other advice do I have?
We're currently working with POWER7 and POWER8. We use it for AIX, IBM i and Linux.
I would absolutely recommend Linux on Power. I believe we're going to expand our use of Linux on Power.
I think IBM is a market leader in servers. To maintain that position I'd say the Open foundations that they've created are a good way of pulling in a broader base of users and technology. Keep improving around those arenas to get better.
Regarding the OpenPOWER Foundation, I think it brings a credibility to the Linux platform, and it allows customers to see that enterprises are serious about using Linux and exploiting its functionalities on Power.
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Advisory Sales Specialist at a tech services company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Great performance and reliability, but machine learning, software testing and compatibility, and price should be addressed
Pros and Cons
- "When it comes to reliability, availability and profitability, nothing can beat IBM Power Systems."
- "Software testing and the compatibility of software products that are available in the market should be addressed."
What is most valuable?
When it comes to reliability, availability and profitability, nothing can beat IBM Power Systems. The machine has great availability and is very serviceable. One can do so many things while the machine is up and running. There is no need to shut anything down. This is how we have been conducting our business for the past few years.
What needs improvement?
There are several features which I feel should be added to the solution, including those concerning the graphic processors.
I am referring to the GPU based machines involved in machine learning. The new systems focus on the part involved in experiencing, but not on machine learning. The product should come with a comprehensive portfolio which will address all the high performance computing requirements, in additiona to machine and deep learning. This is an issue which I raised with IBM.
Software testing and the compatibility of software products that are available in the market should be addressed. This is an issue we sometimes face, as this particular product is not tested, certified and available in Power Systems. We have lost deals over this.
The price of the solution could be somewhat better and this is what lowers my rating of it to a seven or eight out of ten. We directly compete with Intel-based products, which several vendors make available, and a price improvement would certainly give us an advantage over the competition.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have been using IBM Power Systems for more than 10 years.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
I rate the solution as a seven or eight out of ten for its price. As we are talking about a very competitive market, the pricing could be a bit better. This would give us a definite edge over the competition, as we find ourselves in direct competition with Intel-based products, which are available from a number of vendors.
What other advice do I have?
This system is ideal when it comes to performance and reliability. I don't see any need for improving on its current features and functionality.
We are resellers of IBM FlashSystem.
Owing to the issues with its pricing, I rate IBM Power Systems as a seven or eight out of ten.
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Systems PreSales Engineer at a computer software company with 51-200 employees
Secure, fast processing, and reliable
Pros and Cons
- "IBM Power Systems are secure and have fast processing."
- "The solution could improve the memory database for better integration with SAP HANA."
What is our primary use case?
The solution is used for defense purposes. It is used in many places, such as banks.
What is most valuable?
IBM Power Systems are secure and have fast processing.
What needs improvement?
The solution could improve the memory database for better integration with SAP HANA.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have been using IBM Power Systems for approximately three years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
The solution is reliable.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
IBM offers all business-size solutions. They can offer entry for small, mid-range, and higher-end enterprises solutions.
The solution is easy to scale-out and scale-up.
How are customer service and support?
I have not contacted the technical support of IBM. However, if my customers have issues they contacted IBM directly.
How was the initial setup?
The implementation is straightforward.
What about the implementation team?
IBM does the implementation of the solution for my customers.
The solution does require some maintenance and we provide maintenance services to our customers.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
The pricing of the solution is very good because we can beat any other competitor with the pricing. Lately, they have offered good pricing for their customer.
There are different licensing models depending on the user's requirements.
What other advice do I have?
I rate IBM Power Systems a ten out of ten.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
On-premises
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Virtualization is the key, as we can more easily spin up a new partition, virtual instance
Pros and Cons
- "From a software developer standpoint, virtualization is really the key, as we can more easily spin up a new partition, virtual instance of IBM i."
- "Better manage heterogeneous footprints of all the different operating systems that are out there across one common interface."
How has it helped my organization?
I think the main thing that POWER8 is doing for the industry in general is it's leap frogging all the other technologies that exist out in the market from a performance capacity and total cost of ownership point of view. You can scale these servers up or scale out and replace a lot of footprint for other organizations.
An IBM i customer is more of a traditional business, they've been around for a while, they've been running on IBM i for, maybe, a couple decades and for them it's all about being able to continue to move forward, maybe even scale down the size of the server, the footprint of the server, the energy consumption and all those things that come along with it.
What is most valuable?
Help Systems is a provider of IBM i and AIX systems management software. We use the server in our infrastructure to develop technology to solve customers' problems in automation. We're using POWER7 and POWER8 servers, highly partitioned, virtualized; using SAN storage to help us build up our development environments.
Our solutions include the top issue of the day which is security. Everybody's concerned about security, so we do that. We do automation software, which we've been doing for years, and then monitoring software also.
From a software developer standpoint, virtualization is really the key, as we can more easily spin up a new partition, virtual instance of IBM i. We can have it preloaded with our different softwares that we need to test out. To me it's a virtualization. We use that through having a SAN and POWER8 technology.
What needs improvement?
With POWER it has everything that we need from a scale up and scale out capacity, capability to stick lots of work and footprint on it. For IBM, the challenge that everybody has in the industry, and in the processor world, is that we've kind of hit the "knee" of the curve with Moore's law. Processors aren't getting faster. The neat thing about IBM is the innovation that they're doing to offload work from the processor and do more simultaneous things.
I'm really excited about the artificial intelligence even if you don't always think of systems management companies like us being excited about that technology. But we have a lot of information too, and helping our customers more easily mine that - I see some great opportunities.
And to better manage heterogeneous footprints of all the different operating systems that are out there across one common interface.
When we talk about cloud licensing, or maybe tenant-based licensing, definitely there's a shift in the marketplace in that more of our customers are looking at things like infrastructure as a service, where they're going to be having their IBM i footprint hosted by somebody else, maybe on somebody else's partitioning. Sister partitioned systems. So then licensing does become an issue in how do we take that on-prem customer perpetual license and convert it into something that they can consume as they go, because people are used to that with Amazon and other technologies.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
The stability and scalability is why you invest in IBM i. You don't have issues. Like any organization, we have some other applications that run on non-IBM i stuff and to say that it's as reliable - it's not. With IMB i you know it's there, you don't even think about, "Is the server available? Is my application available?" It's always available.
I travel around visiting hundreds of customers every year and it's the same story. We don't have a problem. I was at a customer a couple weeks ago and they talked about that IBM i had been running for over a decade without any outage, until somebody was in the back room moving some wires around, a new electrician in the company, and they accidentally turned off the wrong switch. And then they had some outage.
But it's human error that causes the problem. It's not the system itself, it's not the operating system or the hardware that's a problem.
What was our ROI?
Going from POWER7 to POWER8, the big thing to me is it's not even necessarily the performance, it's the capability of virtualizing, more easily done through some of the different technologies that we have so it can spin up new environments more easily.
What other advice do I have?
Today's world is more about the applications that we have. So, the challenge for the IBM i customer is staying up with time. We have to modernize. We've been talking about it for years - modernizing the applications - so that when my daughter or my son comes and works for you, they're working on a browser type interface. They're not using a green screen interface. That's probably the biggest challenge for IBM i customers.
To a certain extent that's probably true in AIX too. We don't have enough of the web user, graphical-type interfaces that are on this platform that keep people around because they think green screen, they think old. Reality is, they might be running a green screen but the infrastructure behind it is POWER8, running SAN storage, SSD, flash technology. It's probably virtualized and they don't even realize it. But it's quite a powerful system and quite a highly modernized system in the background.
Linux on POWER is another good opportunity for customers because all of a sudden you wake up one day and you have 500 Intel-based Linux servers in your datacenter and if only you would have known that you could have invested in one POWER server, or two POWER servers, and scale that down to only a few instances of Linux on POWER. Think about the power. To me it's just simple math. Whenever you have 2,000 or 500 or 300 servers trying to manage a business, there's just more that's going to go wrong. And so if you can scale up with the Linux on POWER, that's the way to go.
Regarding the OpenPOWER Foundation, at first I was kind of skeptical. I thought, "Okay, well what does that mean to an IBM i customer or an AIX customer?" But what it means is that IBM is spending an enormous amount of time working on technology that's going to take us and make things like artificial intelligence, and the Watson, and all those things a little more commonplace.
And for all organizations, we all have more information than what we know what to do with. If we can better harvest that and predict our customers' trends and purchases, were going to be so much farther ahead than the competition. And if you're doing it on IBM i you'll be able to do that with a fairly small cost of ownership, to get into some really big super-computer type technology to do that.
So the open source thing as part of that brings on some new players that are helping IBM to invest. Obviously IBM is a business and if they're buying up POWER9, and if I have to wait for a POWER9 processor because some large open-source type consortium partner is buying that POWER9 technology, that's good for IMB i and AIX customers because it makes the POWER server itself a very viable economic decision for IBM too.
It's unfortunate, market wise, POWER is not known as well. But the total cost of ownership, IBM's done a great job of lowering the price to entry and then the scalability, security, and reliability. I mean it's second to none in the IT world.
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Computer Engineer at Dolphin Professional Services
Good technical support but improvements can be made on the technical side
Pros and Cons
- "We have had a good experience with the technical support team at IBM."
- "There are improvements that can be made on the technical side."
What is our primary use case?
I am unsure of what the primary use case of this solution was, as my role was only related to deploying the solution.
What is most valuable?
I am unsure what features I found most valuable because I didn't use the power system deployment for the clients.
What needs improvement?
Unfortunately, I don't have any thoughts now on what could be improved.
For how long have I used the solution?
We have used this solution for approximately six months. However, I am unsure if it is currently the latest version because we deployed the solution on-premises as vendors.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
The solution is scalable.
How are customer service and support?
We have had a good experience with the technical support team at IBM.
How was the initial setup?
I would classify the initial setup as medium. It took approximately one day to deploy IBM power systems. Everyone on the team had their role, so I can't speak about what each person did.
What was our ROI?
I am unsure if the clients have seen a return on investment.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
I am unfamiliar with the licensing costs.
What other advice do I have?
I would rate this solution a seven out of ten. However, there are improvements that can be made on the technical side.
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