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it_user758193 - PeerSpot reviewer
Engineer at a insurance company with 1,001-5,000 employees
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We run our financial environment on it and performance is key; we can't miss getting quarterly numbers out

What is most valuable?

It just works. I don't know how else to explain it. We don't have a lot of issues with it. It handles our enterprise systems well.

How has it helped my organization?

Performance. We run our financial environment on it and there are key dates you always have to hit. Performance is key there, when we close the quarters and the like. You can't risk missing dates for getting your numbers to the street.

What needs improvement?

I could see a benefit in some organizations if licensing were more cloud oriented. We're not big in the cloud yet. I guess at some point that would probably help.

Pricing has room for improvement. It's definitely more competitive now than it was. That was an issue we had a while back where you'd look at the cost and it was just so much more for it. It was a hard sell.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

No issues.

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What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

No issues.

How are customer service and support?

Support is good. I think it used to be much better. Sometimes it takes too long to get to the right person. You have to go through too many levels to get to the person you need, that has that skill set. I understand that, there's level-three, and you have to escalate and it takes time.

How was the initial setup?

Straightforward.

What was our ROI?

We have been seeing a return on investment in the moves from version to version due to better performance and they cut the licensing costs down. 

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

It was only Power for the most part. We started with it a long time ago. The rest of our environment runs on Linux, SUSE and Redhat for application web servers.

What other advice do I have?

We use it for AIX. We actually just got P850s but they were refreshed.

I consider IBM to be a market leader in the server industry but to maintain that position pricing is the main thing, to be able to compete with Linux. It's difficult on x86. But on the side of trying to sell it to management, they just look at costs a lot of the time and it's a tough sell; they don't really deal with the reliability of the system's performance.

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Amjad Banna - PeerSpot reviewer
Computer Engineer at GCE
Real User
Best stability in the world, valuable LPM, and scalable
Pros and Cons
  • "We found working with IBM Power Systems that LPM is the most valuable feature."
  • "I would like to see IBM Power Systems integrate with all cloud types."

What is our primary use case?

We are currently using IBM Power Systems for applications and database core banking.

What is most valuable?

We found when working with IBM Power Systems that LPM is the most valuable feature.

What needs improvement?

I would like to see IBM Power Systems integrate with all cloud types.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using IBM Power Systems for the past seven years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

IBM Power Systems is the most stable solution in the world.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

The scalability of IBM Power Systems is good.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

IBM Power Systems is very expensive. We have mid-range, entry, and enterprise. Every machine has its own licensing.

The setup of IBM Power Systems is complex. There are many steps and it takes three days to a week.

Before you purchase IBM Power Systems you should consider capacity requirements. 

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

I work with Dell servers in addition to IBM Power Systems.

What other advice do I have?

I would rate IBM Power Systems an eight out of ten.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

On-premises
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Getachew Zeleke - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior Custormer Engineer at Afcor PLC
Real User
Top 10Leaderboard
Reasonably-priced and easy to set up
Pros and Cons
  • "The initial setup is simple and straightforward."
  • "Technical support and documentation need to be improved."

What is our primary use case?

We are a solution provider and we implement these systems for our clients. They are used for networking and other functions.

What is most valuable?

The most valuable features are Power Server, Power5, Power6, and PowerForce.

What needs improvement?

The power supplies often need replacing.

Technical support and documentation need to be improved.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been working with IBM Power Systems for about 20 years.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

The Power Systems are scalable.

How are customer service and technical support?

IBM provides us with procedures for assisting our clients when they need technical support.

Unfortunately, sometimes when I try to contact the technical support from IBM, they do not come back to me with answers.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

I have worked with many similar solutions.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup is simple and straightforward. You just connect the cables.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

The pricing is reasonable.

What other advice do I have?

The suitability of this product depends on the customer's environment and its requirements. In general, I am 100% confident in the IBM Power Systems and I recommend them.

I would rate this solution an eight out of ten.

Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: reseller
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it_user758199 - PeerSpot reviewer
It director
MSP
Helps our run times and our batches run faster, allows us to deliver better SLAs

What is most valuable?

Reliability would be the strongest thing. Speed and performance are a couple of the other top ones.

How has it helped my organization?

It helps our run times and our batches run faster. It allows people to get their job done faster. It allows us to deliver better SLA's. I'm not sure that it uniquely positions our company in our industry.

What needs improvement?

I don't know how you can improve on something that is as stable as it is.

IBM changes licensing, so to speak, with the wind. You never know what they're going to go with. It would be nicer if it were simpler. And, maybe not so costly, that would help.

For how long have I used the solution?

I've been using AIX and Power for about 20 years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

Stability is 100%.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

The boxes we bought, they're probably not really scalable, because we locked into 850s in a lot of them, but the 870 is more scalable. I think for what we have, and the size, they do fine.

How is customer service and technical support?

I've used them over the years, but not in a while. In the past they were very good.

How was the initial setup?

Straightforward, as are the upgrades.

What was our ROI?

When upgrading from previous versions, in terms of ROI, maybe now there's a little bit, but at least that way it's always backwards compatible, so we don't really have any upgrade issues. I guess the payment back would be the low likelihood of failure or failed upgrades.

We just moved to POWER8 this year, and we saw a big improvement from POWER7.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

It is costly compared to other solutions but we justify it by the reliability.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

We didn't consider competitors for this part of our environment. We chose IBM for its reliability. It runs our Oracle back end systems.

What other advice do I have?

We have four 850s and one 870. We use them for AIX.

When I think servers, and market leaders, I think of Intel. Since they got out of that business, IBM is a leader in what they're focused on right now, which is Power, mainframe. That's really the only thing that is left. They have no competition.

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it_user758220 - PeerSpot reviewer
Aix Linux lead
Vendor
The most efficient hardware I've ever worked with and the easiest to scale

What is our primary use case?

What is there not to like about it? It works every time. You hardly ever have any real issues. It's fast, the most efficient hardware I've ever worked with. I like Power because I think it just works the best.

What needs improvement?

You absolutely have to get that better performance all the time. The managers are always saying, "Well, let's make it faster, faster, faster."

For how long have I used the solution?

I've been using Power since the birth of Power. I've been in it for 24 years. When I first started it was all Micro Channel and I've been along through the evolution right up through to the POWER8s and new, coming POWER9s. I've ever only been interested in working with IBM products.

We're using it for AIX and we also are setting up some SAP HANA on some 870s. 

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

Everyone has an issue at some point, but over the 24 years I've been in this, I have seen very few issues, which is why I really like their product over everyone else.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

Scalability has always been kind of a key factor. There's no good product if it's not scalable, and Power is the easiest-to-scale product I've ever worked with.

How is customer service and technical support?

Depends on which technical support you get. With all the different places I've been you really get the Advocate Program or you don't. If you're in the Advocate Program you get the top help right away. Their tech support with the Advocate Program is awesome.

If you're not in the Advocate Program you have to go through the series of the lower-level tech support, and usually they're not really helpful. In most cases I've ended up figuring out what the problem was before they had an answer. 

How was the initial setup?

Regarding upgrades they're generally pretty straightforward. We use NIM to do our upgrades. All you do is create your new lpp_source SPOT and, if you're going from version to version, use nimadm and alt disk - you've got it covered.

We have a Linux team does all the Linux, but we're working with them to help them install the Linux.

What was our ROI?

In terms of a return on investment from upgrading from a previous version of AIX to the current version, from a financial standpoint I don't really see a difference.

But for performance, it's not so much just the performance, it's the new features that come in the code that makes it appealing to me.

What other advice do I have?

Regarding their being a market leader, I think they've always been in front of all their competitors. Maybe if they made some of their web components a little easier to utilize, that would make me happier.

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Senior Pre-Sales Manager at PT GLOBAL INFOTECH SOLUTION
Real User
Easy to install with good capabilities and less downtime
Pros and Cons
  • "The installation is easy."
  • "The solution is quite expensive."

What is most valuable?

We've been very satisfied with the solution's capabilities. 

The installation is easy.

It's very stable. There is less downtime.

The product can scale. 

What needs improvement?

The compatibility with other products could be better. They have a proprietary package to install on the server. With the application or the database, you can install on top of it.

Some competitors may have more features or a certain advantage over this product.

The solution is quite expensive.

We'd like the solution to have a cloud base. Most of it is on-premises.

For how long have I used the solution?

I've used the solution for almost ten years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

It's very stable. They have a different Hypervisor compared to an Intel-based Hypervisor, like VMware or Red Hat. The Red Hat Enterprise Virtualization is like an embedded Hypervisor, so you don't have to rest up the server. If you ever install the packets or any update, it does not require you to rest up the server. It's more stable, and you don't need more downtime.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

Maybe the entry level is not very scalable. However, if you are using the enterprise level, like Power E-series, the enterprise series, not the entry-level, it's very scalable. Within the core or maybe the memory, and also the IO, it's very scalable.

How are customer service and support?

In Indonesia, they have local support, however, maybe for certain products, the support is just not as good as the main product, like the Power System or Storage. Maybe for another product, the support is very limited.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We worked with IBM products, among others. 

How was the initial setup?

The installation is very simple. 

From the installer, you install the machine. Maybe you want to install the operating system. It's quite different from Windows or Linux since this is Unix-based.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

Compared to Intel, IBM Power Systems is more expensive compared to Intel. Still, if you compare the TCO or the license that you can save using IBM Power, the pricing is almost the same with the Intel base, however, it depends on the application license or the database license. 

In general, the pricing is quite high.

What other advice do I have?

I manage the product at the company. I'm a consultant. We deal mostly with enterprise-level organizations. I'm an IBM partner.

If a company wants to implement the IBM System, maybe it has to check the compatibility of the apps and the DB. Also, if they want to implement the TCO, they have to check the TCO compared to the Intel base. Sometimes, they are only checking the base hardware installation. If they implement the DB or the apps, the pricing may be reduced since the core in Power System is more powerful than the Intel base.

I'd rate the solution eight out of ten.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

On-premises
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reviewer1178952 - PeerSpot reviewer
I.T. Head - Infrastructure, Network and Security at a financial services firm with 1,001-5,000 employees
Real User
Offers processing power, stability, and security that is compatible with most of the solutions that we work with
Pros and Cons
  • "Some of the most valuable features are the processing power, stability, and security."
  • "I would like to see the scaling model improved so it's not just either tiny or huge."

What is our primary use case?

The use case is for hosting a lot of the bank's applications.

What is most valuable?

Some of the most valuable features are the processing power, stability, and security.

What needs improvement?

I would like to see the scaling model improved so it's not just either tiny or huge.

For how long have I used the solution?

We have been using IBM Power Systems since 2001, so it's been 20 years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

IBM is quite stable. That's one of their most popular aspects. We just upgraded our power systems recently, so we're going to be working with them through the next five years at least.

The solution is being used quite heavily.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

The scalability is a bit above average. It's not the best, but it's a good deal.

The SKU modeling part they have is not very flexible toward customers. Either you have to go very big or you have to go very small. There isn't an in-between. There's not a lot of variety in this.

How are customer service and support?

I have onsite support and I talk to technical support a lot. My experience has been good.

How was the initial setup?

Setup was straightforward, with the help of the professional services from IBM. Maintenance is handled by the IBM team, especially the hardware.

What about the implementation team?

We used IBM partners. Usually it's IBM themselves, not the partners.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

The licensing costs are okay. With IBM Power Systems, it's inclusive, so you can differentiate the price of the hardware from the software itself. The power systems are quite expensive. In the end, you equate a means of value. From a value proposition, it is either justifiable or not.

The additional costs are the maintenance and warranty professional services.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

Compared to similar solutions, IBM Power Systems has a proven record. They have their own reputation. You have the availability of technical expertise in the market. They're quite compatible with most of the solutions that we work with.

What other advice do I have?

I would rate this solution 8 out of 10.

My advice for an organization that is looking to implement this solution is that they should have the adequate expertise of personnel that can run the system. They should study their TCO and ROI regarding whether it is worth investing in this, given that it's a very expensive solution. These are the two most important aspects.

I would also advise dealing with an appropriate partner or dealing with IBM directly.

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it_user758184 - PeerSpot reviewer
Solution consultant
Vendor
TCO is highly competitive, if not always the best, especially for a per-core priced database

What is most valuable?

We like the resiliency, we like the flexibility, the speed of the processor. 

How has it helped my organization?

It brings reliability. Rarely do we have failures.

TCOs is highly competitive, if not always the best, especially if you're running a per-core priced database.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

No issues. Very stable.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

Highly scalable. No issues scaling.

How is customer service and technical support?

I'd say they were been better in the past. Obviously it depends who you get. You need to know how to drive your support calls to get maximum effectiveness but, on a one to 10 scale, I'd give them a six.

They could improve responsiveness, ownership of problems, and technical acumen on the first level.

How was the initial setup?

Hardware migrations: logical partition mobility. Move it right onto the next platform.

Software x updates are pretty straightforward. I don't have much experience with i. And Linux is Linux.

What was our ROI?

In terms of the AIX, we are  definitely seeing a return on investment from moving from original versions of Power to POWER8, in performance. And we're definitely getting a per-core gain by moving to POWER8. In addition, the whole I/O speeds in general are improving.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

We've primarily beem a Power shop. There have been other considerations, for x86. We were sing Linux on Intel before Power. We chose IBM because of total cost of ownership. 

It's always been the platform for enterprise applications and go-to production systems that need that sort of reliability to run. 

What other advice do I have?

We're currently working with POWER7 and POWER8. We use it for AIX, IBM i and Linux.

I would absolutely recommend Linux on Power. I believe we're going to expand our use of Linux on Power.

I think IBM is a market leader in servers. To maintain that position I'd say the Open foundations that they've created are a good way of pulling in a broader base of users and technology. Keep improving around those arenas to get better.

Regarding the OpenPOWER Foundation, I think it brings a credibility to the Linux platform, and it allows customers to see that enterprises are serious about using Linux and exploiting its functionalities on Power.

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