- Performance
- High Availability
IT Specialist at a retailer with 1,001-5,000 employees
Even as we anticipate an increase in the number of users, it's allowed us to simplify our infrastructure, although it currently has no data deduplication feature.
What is most valuable?
How has it helped my organization?
It's relatively low-cost for a high-performance solution. By using VSAN, we've been able to simplify our infrastructure considerably.
What needs improvement?
VSAN currently has no data deduplication, and having such a feature would both be an improvement and provide a feature that Nutanix has.
What was my experience with deployment of the solution?
N/A
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What do I think about the stability of the solution?
The stability is very good.
Having now deployed it, it's actually difficult to have any downtime or to even lose data.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
Considering I've only done one VSAN cluster, I'd say that the scalability is good. We haven't yet tried to add more clusters.
Our company currently has 20,000 users and we expect further growth, so we'll likely have to scale down the road. That said, I don't anticipate really any issues with scalability at that point.
How are customer service and support?
Customer Service:
N/A
Technical Support:Tech support is very good as they're responsive.
We have the Technical Account Manager service, which is very helpful.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
N/A
How was the initial setup?
Setup was not complex at all, was very straightforward, and was easily implemented by everyone on the team.
What about the implementation team?
We implemented it with out in-house team.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
We chose VSAN based on a POC. We looked at Nutanix, but VSAN was more robust for our needs and less expensive.
What other advice do I have?
We normally use Gartner as a source, as well as some testing and a POC. The POC was the most important criteria, so my advice would be to do that before committing the resources.
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Solutions Architect with 51-200 employees
VMware Virtual SAN vs. EMC ScaleIO and conventional storage arrays
Software-defined and hyper-converged storage solutions are now a viable alternative to conventional storage arrays so let’s take a quick look at how two of the most popular solutions compare – VMware Virtual SAN (VSAN) and EMC ScaleIO:
Architecture
On vSphere this is an easy win for VMware as VSAN is delivered using kernel modules which provides the shortest path for the IO, has per Virtual Machine policy based management and is tightly integrated with vCenter and Horizon View.
ScaleIO is delivered as Virtual Machines, which is not likely to be as efficient, and is managed separately from the hypervisor – on all other platforms ScaleIO is delivered as lightweight software components not Virtual Machines.
VSAN also has the advantage of being built by the hypervisor vendor, but of course the downside of this is that it is tied to vSphere.
Availability
Win for EMC, since the failure of a single SSD with VSAN disables an entire Disk Group. Although VSAN has the ability to support up to three disks failures where as ScaleIO only one, in reality the capacity and performance overhead of supporting more than one failure means that VSAN will nearly always be used with just RAID 1 mirroring.
If you need double disk failure protection you are almost certainly better off using a storage array.
Performance
Easy win for VMware as VSAN uses SSDs as a write buffer and read cache, ScaleIO does have the ability to utilise a RAM read cache.
Flexibility
Easy win for EMC as with ScaleIO you can:
- Utilise physical servers running Windows and Linux
- Utilise hypervisors running vSphere, Hyper-V, XenServer and KVM
- Utilise any storage supported by the OS or hypervisor
- Utilise any combination of HDDs and SSDs as required
- Create multiple Protection Domains per system for greater resiliency
- Create Storage Pools for each storage tier within a Protection Domain
- Mix and match nodes with dissimilar configurations
VSAN has a more rigid architecture of using Disk Groups which consist of one SSD and up to seven HDDs.
Elasticity
Easy win for EMC as ScaleIO supports up to 1,024 nodes, 256 Protection Domains and 1,024 Storage Pools, and auto-rebalances the data when storage is added or removed.
ScaleIO can also throttle the rebuilding and rebalancing process so that it minimises the impact to the applications.
Advanced Services
Easy win for EMC as ScaleIO provides Redirect-on-Write writeable snapshots, QoS (Bandwidth/IOPS limiter), Volume masking and lightweight encryption.
Licensing
This is a tricky one as VSAN has the more customer friendly licensing as it is per CPU therefore as new CPUs, SSDs and HDDs are released you will be able to support more performance and capacity per license.
ScaleIO has a capacity based license which is likely to mean that further licenses are required as your capacity inevitably increases over time. There is also two ScaleIO licences – Basic and Enterprise (adds QoS, Volume masking, Snapshots, RAM caching, Fault Sets and Thin provisioning).
The one downside of VSAN licensing is that you need to licence all the hosts in the cluster even if they are not used to provision or consume VSAN storage.
Conventional storage arrays
What are the advantages of a conventional mid-range array?
- Rich data services – most storage arrays include de-duplication, compression and tiering along with many other advanced features
- Unified storage – many storage arrays support both block and NAS protocols
- Replication – many storage arrays support synchronous and metrocluster solutions
- Integrated data protection – some storage arrays do not require a separate backup solution
- Usable capacity – most storage arrays support parity RAID which can achieve usable capacity ratios of up to 80%
- Double disk protection – whilst this is supported on VSAN it is almost certainly not practical at scale
- Turnkey solution – with a single contact for support of all hardware and software
What are the advantages of hyper-converged software-defined solutions?
- Multi node failure – can tolerate the failure of more than one node
- Rapid rebuilds – as they take place in parallel across multiple drives
- Bring your own hardware – take advantage of commodity prices
- Built-in “IT Deflation” – as over time hardware unit costs drop
- Independent – the software lives on beyond the life of the hardware
- Elasticity – non-disruptively grow and shrink as required
- Low ongoing costs – perpetual license followed by annual maintenance
- Gain new features – just by upgrading the software
- Simplified management – compute and storage managed together
So which is best?
As always each vendor will build a strong case that their solution is the best, in reality each solution has strengths and weaknesses, and it really depends on your requirements, budget and preferences as to which is right for you.
For me the storage array is not going away, but it is under pressure from software-defined and cloud based solutions, therefore it will need to deliver more innovation and value moving forward. The choice between VSAN and ScaleIO really comes down to your commitment to vSphere – if there is little chance that your organisation will be moving away, then VSAN has to be the way to go, otherwise the cross-platform capabilities of ScaleIO are very compelling.
Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: We are Partners with VMware and EMC.
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Solutions Architect at a computer software company with 501-1,000 employees
Total hyperconverged facility
Pros and Cons
- "The valuable feature of the solution is the total hyperconverged facility."
- "The solution functions as the marketing says, as long as you follow certain rules."
What is most valuable?
The valuable feature of the solution is the total hyperconverged facility. And that either it's hyperconverged, or it's standalone with storage arrays.
What needs improvement?
From the implementer side, the solution is very comparable to Nutanix. The only difference is that VMware requires more initial nodes.
For how long have I used the solution?
I've been working with VMware for fifteen years.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
Regarding the scalability of the solution, you've got 64 nodes into a stretched cluster for VMware. Nutanix goes a little bit above. The only problem is that due to licensing things, such as when you have Oracle and other things, what you tend to do is multiple clusters in order to avoid licensing costs.
The biggest network I have implemented was 16 nodes.
What other advice do I have?
My advice to others looking into implementing VMware vSAN is to stick to the rules. That's where the problem is. If you don't stick to the rules and prerequisites, you end up having a nightmare.
People have a tendency to take hyper-converged solutions for granted. They function as the marketing says, as long as you follow certain rules. If those rules are not followed, you end up with a slower infrastructure than you ever had before.
I would rate this solution an eight out of ten because it lacks flexibility. Those rules I'm talking to you about, how you have to follow the prerequisites, that is well hidden, is that you can't do what you want. You don't have total freedom. You have to respect the rules and that's why respecting the rules sometimes is a burden.
They always recommend that nodes are the same type, have the same disk structure, and if you change some disk structures, you have to change them on all the nodes. Although somewhere it's understandable, it's a burden. It should not happen.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
On-premises
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Senior Director at a tech vendor with 201-500 employees
Provides interoperability between VMware products but needs more support for applications
Pros and Cons
- "VMware comes with different stacks like VMware Cloud Foundation, which is integrated with different VMware modules. There's interoperability between VMware products."
- "I would like to see more support for applications. I think currently it only supports applications between two vSAN clusters."
What is most valuable?
VMware comes with different stacks like VMware Cloud Foundation, which is integrated with different VMware modules. There's interoperability between VMware products.
Another good feature is that you can create profiles for each VM. You can mirror one set of VMs according to another set of VMs. You can also define the quality of service for that profile.
What needs improvement?
I would like to see more support for applications. I think currently it only supports applications between two vSAN clusters. I heard that VMware is planning to have applications using vSAN at the hypervisor layer. I'm not sure whether it's available or it's being planned for the next release. I would prefer it to be on the storage layer than on the hypervisor layer.
For how long have I used the solution?
I've been working with VMware vSAN for two years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
I haven't had any issues with the stability of VMware vSAN.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
I haven't had any issues with scalability, but I think historically it supports only 64 nodes. It's a VMware limitation, but in our deployment in Sri Lanka, hardly any customers use that many nodes. If you consider that aspect, then scalability is okay. The largest customer we have here uses two nodes.
For Nutanix, there is no such limit as far as I know.
How are customer service and support?
I'm not happy with the VMware support. There are so many delays attributed to different reasons, like when you transfer the case from one engineer to the other, the second engineer is not aware of what the first engineer has done, so we need to update the second engineer from the beginning.
Their response is also not that fast. We have seen that sometimes the competency of the backend engineers is not that high, and because of that VMware support is a bit of a concern for us. Apart from that, I don't have many issues with the product.
How was the initial setup?
Setup is not that difficult. We have had a few issues with the implementation. Initial setup is not as straightforward as Nutanix.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
Compared to Nutanix, the design of VMware vSAN is probably the highest in the marketplace in terms of market penetration. I think it's number one, and Nutanix is not that far behind.
From an upgrade perspective, it's not as straightforward compared to a Nutanix. You need to do a lot of checks and balances before you do the upgrade. With Nutanix, you don't need to worry about it at all, probably because those nodes are coming from Nutanix itself. Because of that, they kind of keep everything to a single file where all these checks will be done initially when you run it. With vSAN, the server could be coming from different vendors like HP or Huawei. So it won't be that easy to come up with a single package to check all of these formula licenses because the upgrade is not that smooth compared to Nutanix.
What other advice do I have?
I would rate this solution 7 out of 10.
My advice is to plan well which workload you're going to use for VMware vSAN. Not all workloads are suitable for VMware vSAN. Before using VMware vSAN, you should consider implementation planning, network sites, and group layout.
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Customer Engineer at a tech vendor with 51-200 employees
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Enables us to scale out nodes independently and flexibly - we can put almost any type of server in them
Pros and Cons
- "The most valuable features for us are the ability to scale out the nodes independently, and the flexibility of the nodes. We can put almost any type of server in there with our connectivity and everything works great."
- "Scalability in vSAN has been really good. It's very easy to add nodes in, to automatically generate the drives and the disk groups. It has been a piece of cake, surprisingly so."
- "The biggest room for improvement I see in vSAN is the lack of SAN connectivity. I've kind of joked around that there is no "SAN" in vSAN. And it's something that we've worked to try and introduce some options for, and we're going to continue to work towards that."
What is our primary use case?
We use vSAN primarily as an R&D tool to test our products and see how they work on it, and it is absolutely phenomenal. It is one of the best hyperconverged solutions I've been able to get my hands on.
How has it helped my organization?
vSAN has improved our organization by allowing us to perform faster workflows, get better overall performance, and create some really new solutions.
What is most valuable?
The most valuable features for us are the ability to scale out the nodes independently, and the flexibility of the nodes. We can put almost any type of server in there with our connectivity and everything works great.
What needs improvement?
The biggest room for improvement I see in vSAN is the lack of SAN connectivity. I've kind of joked around that there is no "SAN" in vSAN. And it's something that we've worked to try and introduce some options for, and we're going to continue to work towards that. But it looks like the door is starting to open and there may be some options, with some of the announcements that came out of VMworld 2018.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
vSAN has been very stable for us. Once we get it up and settled in and the workflows going, usually we don't have to intervene at all. Things just keep working. Stability is important for us with vSAN because it becomes the rock that we depend on. When we need an application to stay up and maintain that ability to bounce between hosts, to work in a true hyperconverged manner, it's the only choice for us.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
Scalability in vSAN has been really good. It's very easy to add nodes in, to automatically generate the drives and the disk groups. It has been a piece of cake, surprisingly so.
How are customer service and technical support?
We have not needed to use vSAN tech support, believe it or not. We have not had any kind of an instance where we couldn't resolve it on our own, or it didn't fix itself.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
We had no hyperconverged solution beforehand. We knew that we needed to do some testing with them. It started off as a compatibility (test) and just kept ballooning from there until we went and implemented it.
When choosing a vendor, our most important criteria are reputation and stability. You can't go into something without understanding just how good it is, and if you roll the dice, sometimes you get burned. We're a risk-averse company.
How was the initial setup?
I was involved in the initial vSAN setup. The experience was really wonderful, it was really easy, it was very intuitive. There were some learning curves for us because we had never done it before but, overall, the wizard and the experience with the online tutorials that we were able to find solved every concern or question that we had, very quickly.
What was our ROI?
ROI for us comes in uptime, keeping applications up and running. That's important to us because that's directly attributable to our revenue stream.
What other advice do I have?
Do your research, dig, find out what your particular needs are, what would the overall cost be to - sometimes it's a forklift, sometimes it's a migration. But look at all the factors, look at the requirements of vSAN, look at the requirements of other hyperconverged solutions, and then make the decision.
I would rate vSAN as a solid nine. To get it to a ten it would need: the ability to support a SAN and a little bit of a larger scale. Those would be the two things that I would request.
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Virtualization Architect at a tech services company with 5,001-10,000 employees
Easy to scale by adding hard drives or servers, but needs replication capabilities
Pros and Cons
- "It is scalable, overall. If you need to add storage, it makes it easy to scale by adding additional hard drives into the existing servers or you can add storage by just adding more servers."
- "I would like to see replication as part of it. I would also like to see direct file access, being able to run SIF shares and NFS and the like. I think that would be critical to continuing the use of it going forward."
- "One of the things that we've had challenges with are when we place hosts into maintenance mode. Sometimes doing so triggers large re-sync processes which can be time-consuming and which have, at times, pushed the capacity to the threshold. I definitely think making some changes in that area would provide some big improvements."
What is our primary use case?
We use it for our compute clusters, for running our virtual machines. We use it for our vROps clusters. Our customers use it for their compute workloads.
What is most valuable?
It is scalable, overall. If you need to add storage, it makes it easy to scale by adding additional hard drives into the existing servers or you can add storage by just adding more servers.
What needs improvement?
I would like to see replication as part of it. I would also like to see direct file access, being able to run SIF shares and NFS and the like. I think that would be critical to continuing the use of it, going forward.
One of the things that we've had challenges with is when we place hosts into maintenance mode. Sometimes doing so triggers large re-sync processes which can be time-consuming and which have, at times, pushed the capacity to the threshold. I definitely think making some changes in that area would provide some big improvements.
For how long have I used the solution?
One to three years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
Overall, it's stable. When it's designed properly for the proper workloads, it's a very stable product. We had some challenges, initially, with getting the workloads aligned to the proper storage policies and configurations, but since we worked through that it has been very stable.
How is customer service and technical support?
Technical support is getting better. We've been using vSAN for a couple of years now. Initially, it was a little more challenging, but it seems like GSS is scaling up as well and, perhaps, learning the product along with us, at times. But overall, they do a great job in giving us support when we need it.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup is pretty easy. I would like to have some additional automation wrapped around it. In the earlier versions, PowerCLI was very limited, but as the versions have progressed the modules have progressed as well. It's getting better. I consider it to still be a fairly new product and, over time, it's continually getting better and better.
What other advice do I have?
Properly align your workloads to the storage policies and make sure you know what your workloads are before you leverage vSAN. Have a good understanding of the size of your VMs, the amount of change that they have, and how you are going to be doing maintenance in your cluster. Understand the workload and what you're going to be doing with it before you jump in.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
President & CEO at McMillan Consulting
Can have an HA cluster in the absence of a shared storage device or SAN
Pros and Cons
- "The ability to have an HA cluster in the absence of a shared storage device or SAN."
What is our primary use case?
We have a traditional, multi-host cluster with SAN and a small (three host) vSAN cluster alongside it. I built the vSAN cluster mostly to experiment with the platform.
How has it helped my organization?
As a VAR, it has been about gaining expertise in the platform. Additionally, it has allowed us to benchmark against traditional systems. We are now in a good position to help our clients decide when and where to deploy this solution.
What is most valuable?
The ability to have an HA cluster in the absence of a shared storage device or SAN. Not having to retain SAN expertise and the cost of a storage area network (SAN) warranty are big pluses, too.
What needs improvement?
Perhaps a bundle, like Essentials, would allow more businesses to make the leap to the product.
For how long have I used the solution?
One to three years.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
I would like to see this technology be made available to smaller businesses, who might benefit from high availability but struggle with the entry fee.
What other advice do I have?
Coming from the early networking days when storage was software-defined, and seeing the announcement of this product caught my interest. The platform has been improved much over the first version. Today, we are comfortable running any of our mission critical apps on it.
Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: We are a Value-Added Reseller
Engagement Cloud Solution Architect - Ericsson Cloud Services at a comms service provider with 11-50 employees
Technical support is perfect. Storage policies are used to perform operations in the VMs.
Pros and Cons
- "Storage policies are used to perform operations in the VMs. This feature allows you to create storage policies for VMs to get performance, high availability, I/O policies, etc."
- "he list of hardware supported should be increased in the future."
How has it helped my organization?
VNF apps.
What is most valuable?
Storage policies are used to perform operations in the VMs. This feature allows you to create storage policies for VMs to get performance, high availability, I/O policies, etc.
What needs improvement?
Hardware supported by VMware vSAN: The list of hardware supported should be increased in the future. I would improve these areas by increasing the number of partners to support as many as possible.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
We have not had stability issues.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
We have not had scalability issues.
How are customer service and technical support?
Technical support is perfect. VMware provides some of the best support in the market.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
We had no previous solution.
How was the initial setup?
With a good hardware design, the setup is straightforward.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
I have no advice about pricing.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
We evaluated Cisco vSAN.
What other advice do I have?
It is easy to design and deploy to react to a changing environment.
Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: We are an OEM partner.
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