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Head of Global Engineering Computing at Siemens
Real User
We can decide which portion of our data will be stored on SSD's and which will be stored on disc drives.

What is most valuable?

We use 3PAR to separate certain parts of our infrastructure. For example, we can decide which portion of our data will be stored on SSD's and which will be stored on disc drives. We have a flexible contract with HP in order to do this, and it's been a huge advantage for us.

How has it helped my organization?

It makes us more flexible because we can extend our storage size easily. But the most important advantage, again, is our flexible contract with HP. It's a technically wonderful product, but it's also wonderful because of the contract. We have no CapEx and no long-term investment on the contract because we're paying just a monthly rate.

What needs improvement?

We're satisfied with the existing solution, but we are still having discussions to improve something.

We're not missing anything in terms of hardware, but the firmware could be improved.

What was my experience with deployment of the solution?

We've always deployed them without any issues.

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What do I think about the stability of the solution?

It's a stable solution and there's global support from the entire HP worldwide organization.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

It's very easy to scale.

How are customer service and support?

We have a very close relationship with our account manager and they offer us technical support.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

3PAR is less costly than our previous solution. We were able to migrate from EVA to 3PAR.

How was the initial setup?

Of course it's complex, but with HP's help it made the setup easier.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

We didn't evaluate other options because we've been with HP for many years now. We have 25 locations worldwide and we needed a global flash-storage solution. HP, also a global company, was the right fit.

Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: We're a global partner.
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it_user330981 - PeerSpot reviewer
Storage Team Lead at a tech services company with 501-1,000 employees
Consultant
We've standardized with it as it's a good combination of equipment, support, and implementation staff. The only issues we have had are with deployment.

What is most valuable?

Excellent support staff and quality equipment.

How has it helped my organization?

The 3PAR arrays provide excellent performance for a very reasonable price point.

What needs improvement?

Their installation and design engineers leave something to be desired.

For how long have I used the solution?

I've used it for five years.

What was my experience with deployment of the solution?

The only issues we have had are with deployment. Depending on the quality of the installation engineer, one must keep a close eye on them in order to make sure that the equipment is connected and configured properly.

How are customer service and technical support?

8/10 - most of the support staff are top shelf, but service can be ponderous if the wrong engineer is engaged.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

I have used other HP arrays, EMC, Netapp, and Fujitsu. HP 3PAR by far has the best combination of great equipment, very good support, and good implementation staff. We have standardized on HP 3PAR for this reason.

How was the initial setup?

As with most arrays, that is dependent on the system you’re installing. We tend to be “power users” and push the edges of how the equipment is used. In most situations, the setup is straightforward.

What about the implementation team?

We engage HPs installation teams. My advice would be to make sure that future expansion plans are thoroughly discussed at the first installation to make sure that the array is as future proof as possible.

What was our ROI?

My team isn’t exposed to ROI.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

I can say that one can realize very nice discounts if the order is placed towards the end of the calendar year, as that coincides with HPs fiscal end of year. Licensing for some features can be quite expensive, so one should take care to fully vet out which features should be licensed. Don’t let the sales team oversell licensing and make sure that the installation plan is fully understood.

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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it_user285357 - PeerSpot reviewer
Infrastructure Manager at a insurance company with 1,001-5,000 employees
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Vendor
Due to the fact that performance is key for us, we like the ability to see real time statistics and historically analyze metrics

What is most valuable?

The replication is important to us for our cross-campus and cross-site replication. So the recovery manager to be able to take capacity free snaps and use those for dev tests and stuff like the adaptive optimization where we can move things between different tiers, retuning and rate levels on the fly, the pier motion stuff moving when doing disc array migrations between models, moving the application online with no down time.

Obviously, our performance was key. The ability to see real time statistics and do historical analysis on performance metrics, post base per-LAN and be able to see what's going on when something's going wrong.

How has it helped my organization?

Ease of administration, cutting down the time to do things when we do migrate arrays, looking into the stats and making sure we've got, the applications are performing like they're supposed to.

What needs improvement?

I'm interested in their new stuff around, in the road map around, in line dedupe on the array, compression back up protection stuff over and above what they've got already, integrating into application aware snap shots. That's the sort of stuff I'm looking for.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

Very stable, haven't had any problems.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

Scales well.

How are customer service and technical support?

Obviously stuff goes wrong from time to time but the support is good.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We were previously using a different solution. We did a detailed paper analysis. We flew out to the guys in San Francisco, to their labs. We had a look at their storage and what they were doing, their software stack. We were really impressed with that.

How was the initial setup?

Straightforward from bringing the array on-site to plugging in and getting the first LAN provision was less than a day.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

We ended up with EMC. We had the 3PAR guys on there. Overall, I think it was the best solution for us.

What other advice do I have?

It pretty much does almost everything we're looking for. I think they've got a good road map for the future.

Recommendations to peers - It really depends on what you need. If you're looking for something that can scale well and protect your data across multiple sites, we've got visibility into the performance metrics. That's the sort of stuff I'd look at. Do they have a vision for file and object based storage, is that coming? How does it integrate with back up products and archiving.

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it_user184665 - PeerSpot reviewer
Independent IT Analyst with 51-200 employees
Vendor
Interesting and comprehensive family of products which now includes a native file interface

HP 3PAR, 360° storage

This is the first time in a while that I won’t be attending HP Discover. It’s a pity, not only because I have the chance to get updates directly from the horse’s mouth there, but also because it is always well frequented by good bloggers and other interesting people. At the event, HP usually organizes what they call “coffee talks” and you have the chance to get briefed and also have a lot of confrontation on each single line of their business (not that I’m really interested in everything they do, but Storage, Cloud and Enterprise IT in general are all well covered). BTW, thanks to my friend Calvin Zito I got news in advance and even though I’m overseas at the moment, I want to comment on what I discovered a few days ago.

When good gets better

You’re most likely aware that I still consider HP and HDS among the best companies when it comes to some enterprise storage solutions (especially when we talk about tier 1 storage) and, this is the case of 3PAR, I really like the fact that you can buy a storage in the order of $25.000 that has the same identical characteristics and features of the biggest one. Different in size, identical in functionalities.

This is a major benefit for the end user. A small organization knows it can grow with virtually no limits on an enterprise-class platform, while the larger ones have many possibilities to serve, on a single platform, most of their needs from the primary data centers to the branch offices. This really helps if you want to keep your IT infrastructure as simple as possibile, and you care about TCO.

3Par has come out with a lot of good things in the last couple of years both from the hardware (the 7450, aka the flash memory play, is a vivid example) and the software aspects (features like peer motion or Adaptive flash cache for example). All steps that have contributed to building up a very interesting and comprehensive family of products. But something was always missing!

File (and objects!)

Looks like we finally got it! Native File interface from 3PAR (through a software license, not external appliances!!!). On paper it looks pretty good: SMB3, NFS v4/3 and, of course Active Directory, DFS, Microsoft Management Control integration, NMDP and other features you usually find on the best NAS boxes. (I said “on paper” because I’m not there to see how it really works, but on paper it looks great!).

And… there’s more. Object Access via API (which is not totally clear to me… the documentation is a little elusive). Let’s suppose this is an S3 (or Swift) interface to the same files you can access via SMB or NFS, it would be another great feature. (something I wrote about a few years ago indeed, and I’m glad other unified-storage vendors are working on it too)
A feature like this can’t compete with real object storage, just because 3PAR is a primary storage and can’t achieve the level of cost and scalability of an object storage, but this could have its (many) applications! If you need a few TBs for sync&share, a development system, a private object storage for some critical data, you name it.

7440c

On the hardware front, if I got it right, you can all of these features on a new model called 7440c. C stays for Converged and specs are very comparable to the 7450 (no new ASIC so), but it’s “hybrid”… which obviously means that you can have it with both Flash and disks. The 7440c can also scale up to 3.5PB of usable space (calculated with dedupe on, of course).

It’s not clear to me whether File/Object access is available only to this model, but I’m hoping that all the features will soon, if not already, be available on all other models of the family (like it already happens for any other software feature).

The Icing on the Cake 

There is a new feature that allows a 3PAR array to move its snapshots directly to the StoreOnce VTL! This is called HP StoreOnce Recovery Manager Central. No backup software and no complexity.
Long story short: Nice and useful! You can take a consistent snapshot and you can automatically save the data directly into a StoreOnce VTL. Time saved, software backup saved and complexity saved.
The first version is compatible only with VMware but other options will be added later. I would love to see a demo (but I’m not there)

The P10400, and more in general all P10000models, absolutely needs a refresh. The the 7440c outshines the P10400 and it probably costs a fraction. I’m sure that at next HP Discover in Las Vegas we will see a Gen5 ASIC and other features that will re-establish the right positioning of the whole line-up. It’s highly likely next year’s event in Las Vegas will bring a lot of news again. (a new ASIC for sure, IMHO)

I really love the File access option. It is really interesting, especially in the SMB space where the 7200/7400 can now fight with similar functionalities (but a better backend architecture) against NetApp FAS and EMC VNX. My only concern is about CPU/ASIC usage on current (old) models and, consequently, performance. I hope that HP will show some benchmarks soon.

First published here.

Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: HP has been a client of Juku consulting. Last year I published a couple of white papers for HP (one about 3PAR and one about StoreVirtual VSA), they also invite me often to their events and I recently joined an advisory council with other bloggers to review some of their products. However, the content is not reviewed, approved or published by any other person than the Juku team.
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Hi Steven - I can't speak to performance specifics for Nimble because they haven't submitted to the SPC-1 benchmark site. What I do know is we have lots of service providers and other customers who are running mix workloads and they're quiet happy with 3PAR performance. And getting really good performance out of mixed workloads is in my mind the benchmark for performance.

Nimble's performance is dependent on getting the entire active dataset into SSD and my understanding is that 5% of an array is SSD. If you're working set is bigger than that, my understanding is performance will be impacted because the other 95% of the capacity is 7200 rpm nearline SAS drives.

The 3PAR family can scale up to 3.2 million IOPS out of a single system so performance there is not only dependent on the workload but on which system you're evaluating. Happy to answer any questions you have.

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Information Technology Team Lead at a financial services firm with 1-10 employees
Real User
User-friendly, useful interface, and highly reliable
Pros and Cons
  • "HPE 3PAR StoreServ has a good interface, it is user-friendly and easy to use."
  • "Here in Algeria, we are facing a lot of trouble finding partners and getting support from HPE. There should be better support here in our country."

What is our primary use case?

We host and store everything we have in HPE 3PAR StoreServ. We created the laws and connected them to our servers, and on those servers, we have VMware as a hypervisor. We make backups of all the data from the servers.

What is most valuable?

HPE 3PAR StoreServ has a good interface, it is user-friendly and easy to use.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have used HPE 3PAR StoreServ within the past 12 months.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The solution has been working perfectly, we have not had any issues since we purchased it. HPE 3PAR StoreServ is highly reliable.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

HPE 3PAR StoreServ is scalable.

How are customer service and support?

Here in Algeria, we are facing a lot of trouble finding partners and getting support from HPE. There should be better support here in our country.

What other advice do I have?

Recently we had an issue because we added some hard drives to HPE 3PAR StoreServ and we needed to upgrade the VMware to allow support by HPE 3PAR StoreServ hard drives.

We were discussing with our IT manager if we were going to stay with this solution or are we going to use another solution for a disaster recovery plan because we need a disaster recovery plan.

I rate HPE 3PAR StoreServ a nine out of ten.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

On-premises
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reviewer1027764 - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior project specialist at a security firm with 201-500 employees
Real User
Performs well and simple to install
Pros and Cons
  • "HPE 3PAR StoreServ is easy to use and has good performance."
  • "The solution could improve by being more secure."

What is our primary use case?

HPE 3PAR StoreServ is used as a flash storage system.

What is most valuable?

HPE 3PAR StoreServ is easy to use and has good performance.

What needs improvement?

The solution could improve by being more secure.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using HPE 3PAR StoreServ for approximately six years.

How are customer service and support?

I have not contacted the support from HPE.

How was the initial setup?

The installation is straightforward.

What about the implementation team?

We have a technical team of approximately 20 engineers and administrators that supports HPE 3PAR StoreServ. 

What other advice do I have?

I recommend this solution to others.

I rate HPE 3PAR StoreServ a nine out of ten.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

On-premises
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SeniorSycb53 - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior Systems Administrator at a consultancy with 5,001-10,000 employees
Real User
You can't beat its scalability. Just add more storage space when you need it.
Pros and Cons
  • "I do not have to worry about cross systems talking to each other or multiple systems trying to interact with each other. Our entire vCenter infrastructure is one large stack, which is nice."
  • "The performance has been fantastic. It has not had many issues whatsoever, and what issues they do have, the support picks up on it quickly. They send us tickets saying that they are doing work without us even having to engage them."
  • "I would like to see a little better integration with OneView and provisioning ESX Hosts."

What is our primary use case?

We use it for virtualization, vCenter, and infrastructure. 

We have simple needs. We are a very small shop and are not a technology company, but we do have mobile apps and websites that we provide to our customers.

I am new with the company. I have only been there about a year now, but I understand that they have had this system for at least three to five years.

The performance has been fantastic. It has not had many issues whatsoever, and what issues they do have, the support picks up on it quickly. They send us tickets saying that they are doing work without us even having to engage them. So, that is very nice.

What is most valuable?

All-in-one containment: I do not have to worry about cross systems talking to each other or multiple systems trying to interact with each other. Our entire vCenter infrastructure is one large stack, which is nice.

What needs improvement?

I would like to see a little better integration with OneView and provisioning ESX Hosts, but other than that it meets our needs.

Possibly because of the version that we are running, but we do not have not enough features.

For how long have I used the solution?

Less than one year.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

I am very impressed with the stability. We have had a stable environment for at least the year that I have been at the organization.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

You can't beat its scalability. Just add more storage space when you need it, which is very simple.

How is customer service and technical support?

Technical support is very responsive. Most of the time, they are engaged before we even know about problems that are there. However, for things like disk outages, you have to arrange for somebody to come out and do something. 

They have been very helpful, and worked within our schedules and our maintenance windows. We are very pleased with them.

What was our ROI?

We absolutely see the ROI. Sometimes when you purchase large pieces of equipment like this, uptiming is a huge thing that we need. Also, the stability of the system along with the fact that we have had to put very little time into the product once it was up, established, and running has reduced our costs. It allows us to focus on other important projects, rather than having to constantly restructure the infrastructure.

What other advice do I have?

Support is great. The hardware is great. Unfortunately, we are running on an older version.

I would recommend taking a look at it. I have been looking at the newer options and technology. Not much has changed with it, so the expectations are still there that it would be a solid choice for somebody else.

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TechDire6cb5 - PeerSpot reviewer
Tech Director Data Centers with 5,001-10,000 employees
Real User
It is flexible, and they have a convenient capacity model that works well for us
Pros and Cons
  • "The tech support is great. If we have a problem, we literally will have boots on the ground with senior sales people, as well as the people to fix the problem, to help make sure we are taken care of."
  • "I need flexibility for interoperability across multiple platforms, not just HPE."

How has it helped my organization?

It is status quo from what we came from. We came from ViON and Hitachi. Part of that is our own problem. It is not as much HPE, as to how we are using it. We lifted and shifted, identically from one system to another.

What is most valuable?

It is flexible. We receive a lot of flexibility. We do at capacity on demand (COD), so we do not buy it upfront. They have a convenient capacity model that works well for us. HPE are a sub to the ones we buy it from, but they are the best sub that you could ask for. Whenever we have a problem, they come right onsite.

What needs improvement?

I would like to see more openness with other platforms. InfoSight synergy as a whole is great, if I own all HPE products. 

It is whoever gets me the best price and value. They win the contract. I need that flexibility to work with, for example, if Dell were to win my server contract or ViON were to run the storage, and I still had HPE servers. I need flexibility for interoperability across multiple platforms, not just HPE.

For how long have I used the solution?

Three to five years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

We had major issues in years one and two. 

Now, it is stable. In the beginning, we had some stability and reliability issues. Over the last three years, it has been very stable and reliable.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

It is definitely scalable. We do not have any issues.

How is customer service and technical support?

The tech support is great. If we have a problem, we literally will have boots on the ground with senior sales people, as well as the people to fix the problem, to help make sure we are taken care of.

How was the initial setup?

It was complex for us, but we were literally migrating nine data centers across the globe, from product A to product B. We got in our way more than anyone else did. I can't judge how the product would be in a typical environment, since we are talking about 75 petabytes over nine data centers. It was a big project. 

The product is straightforward enough. If we were to do it as a new implementation, it would not be an issue.

What other advice do I have?

We are happy with it. However, there is always room for improvement.

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