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it_user680247 - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior system administrator at a financial services firm with 1,001-5,000 employees
Vendor
Provides ease of setup and connectivity to our server environment.

What is most valuable?

Ease of setup and connectivity to our server environment.

How has it helped my organization?

We use it for our VND environment. It’s made it easy to make sure we have the highest throughput capable. It has helped with our connectivity to our DL servers. It’s made functionality a lot easier, doing that.

What needs improvement?

As far as what I do with it, I don't have any additional needs from the system. It is doing exactly what we need it to do. To make it even better, it could be faster.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

It is very stable. The only issue that we've had with our 3PAR system was caused by a firmware update and it caused an outage. It was actually a human issue.

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What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

It’s very scalable.

How are customer service and support?

Technical support was actually really good. Once we got the right person on the call, then it was actually resolved pretty quick.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We changed to the 3PAR solution to do a direct connect to 3PAR. Before that, we had a VND environment and we were connected to a larger SAN array. We actually had HPE come on-site. They drew up the solution and the architecture that we wanted to do and they actually were able to implement it based upon what our needs were. When selecting a vendor, we look for support, which is one of the biggest things. Other elements are up-time and hardware reliability.

How was the initial setup?

I was involved with initial setup. HPE came on site for the configuration and they were really good.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

We have IBM solutions on the docket. We are really big. Our storage team has everything, so we actually brought in 3PAR to get it in-house.

What other advice do I have?

Work with HPE and the sales team. The HPE sales team has been great to work with. They offered a great solution to us.

Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: We are Summit partners.
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it_user567666 - PeerSpot reviewer
Connect Germany at Westfälische Wilhelms-University
Consultant
Good integration between hardware and software. Efficient storage solution.

How has it helped my organization?

The great value is the integration with the hardware and the software which really has great features that they develop over time. The system we bought back in 2012/13 and installed in 2013 is no longer in the system we are using now in 2016. This is because the software evolved so much and features were added to the system we purchased three years ago. It still adds new features that which we can leverage on the day-to-day use and make the storage investment more profitable and the storage resources more efficient.

What needs improvement?

The things I keep asking for are certain features which are now available but not to all the systems that are on the market. Sometimes they say we don't think the hardware you have can sustain this feature. We don't let you try it if it probably can't sustain the feature. There are other features where they say they don't support it on this type of spinning media, we only do that on flash. We don't have flash on our RA, so we are out of that. We get so many other features just by a software update, like transparent frame level between sites which is a huge thing. There's nothing really to complain about.

For how long have I used the solution?

We introduced this solution into our system in early 2013. We were one of the first customers in Germany and Europe who really received the new 3PAR 7400 storage systems. We transferred all our data from our previous system which was the HP EVA system to the 3PAR system. We did that not by means of the online import, but rather the MPX solution. This solution transferred it over the wire, at wire speed transfer, block for block, the data from the EVA to the 3PAR. Over a weekend, we had all the data for virtualization which was the MRV sphere, the file services on top of Windows storage. We were able to transfer into the new system so we can break down the old system, erect the second new system then have everything merge across the sites again, like we had before.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

There is no doubt that the 3PAR system is the most stable system we ever had in the storage space. When I look left and right at other systems we had and others still have in the university, we never had any unplanned downtime. We never lost any data. It really does the job the way it should be doing it.

There might be some mishaps, but nothing that's out of the ordinary, like losing the website for three days in a row. There's nothing like that. Of course, you have to do all the work to maintain the system. That's hard work, and you have to do it, but the system really rewards you for doing that.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

In terms of scalability, we did careful planning on that in the beginning. I don’t think we will outrun the system within its natural lifetime. Once it gets replaced by the next generation of systems, whatever those might be, it might be 3PAR, or it might be something software defined. We don't know because that will be in 2019.

How is customer service and technical support?

The support at HPE is not great, but it is good. We have some fights about it. That's basically at the stages where we have a way to think how it should be done. Then HPE has a supported way. Then HPE has a way that will also work. Basically, our way is the way that will also work. That's kind of our fight, but at the end, we settle for the best of both worlds. They're typically deliver what they promise. There's no worry about that with 3PAR. On the StoreEasy side, it's a little bit more of a challenge because half the product is HPE, and the other half is Microsoft. You have a lot of components that play together and if you get to the line where it is stitched together, sometimes you have just these problems. Is it Microsoft? Is it HPE? How do you get that together and then run into all the troubles you are with having multiple vendors included into that, even though you purchased a product from HPE.

How was the initial setup?

I think it is a complex setup. We didn't set it up ourselves. We had an HPE partner come in to set it up for us. Then we only dealt with the maintenance in running it. The hardware maintenance is done by HPE. Other than that, we do it ourselves now. I think that's fairly reasonable. Have somebody set it up professionally, explain to you how it should work, and then you can take it from there. That's the way it was in old-fashioned IT. This is transforming with all the cloud stuff that's going on, with all the automation. I think that's really getting to a different level going forward.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

We looked at all the major competitors at the time when we chose it. We looked at the EMCs, the NetApps, the IBMs, and the Dells. In the end, it turned out only one, namely HPE, not only for storage but also for server and all the other requirements we had, was able to bring it to the market at a price point that we were willing to pay. For the 3PAR, of course, the transparency between sites is valuable. That used to be the huge feature for NetApp. At that time, they weren't able to deliver it in the way we wanted it. Also HPE had to wait about half a year to be able to deliver that. It was just a software update, some more setup, and then we were up and running. I think with NetApp, it would have been little bit of a harder journey.

What other advice do I have?

In terms of choosing a vendor, there is a mix of capabilities. You need to find someone who is proven in the field, in general. But if you want to go for latest products, we bought a 7400 even before it was announced. There is nothing in the field. You have to have good partners with whom you can work and with whom you can speak. It only becomes apparent over the course of a project how well of a partner you chose. If you have a product where you spent several million Euros, there's nothing that will work on the first instance. There's not anything that will work, but there are some things that won't work on the first instance. Then every partner shines. You have to ask how they get these problems resolved.

We have been an HPE customer for over 20 years. HPE consistently delivered on target. They are always in a bidding process. They can never be sure where they will get the next project because they run against the Dells, the Lenovos, and all the others. You have to have the right portfolio, you have to have the right features, the right product, the right services around it, and you have to deliver it for the right price. That's basically it.

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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it_user246960 - PeerSpot reviewer
it_user246960Senior IT Infrastructure Analyst at a financial services firm with 501-1,000 employees
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You are virtualized? And if yes, did you consider other vendors that does storage for virtualization not old fashion storage.... and did you hear what's happened last week in Australia? www.itnews.com.au

Cheers

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it_user486621 - PeerSpot reviewer
Systems Engineering Manager at a aerospace/defense firm with 1,001-5,000 employees
Real User
The benefits are the integration with the rest of our system, including solutions for system administration.

Valuable Features

I think it's the direction in which they're moving in terms of flash storage and being able to take your legacy systems, integrate the old hard drives with flash storage and perform the migrations. Especially when including virtualization and trying to shrink your data center and improve performance.

Improvements to My Organization

HPE has been our de facto standard, and the benefits are the integration with the rest of our system, including solutions for system administration of having one interface with OneView and being able to use 3PAR with your storage and manage everything. The integration with virtualization as all that just brings down cost with administration, and to me that's one of the biggest things it brings.

Stability Issues

Stability has always been there. Going back to my reliability comment that it's always been very reliable, we've never had any major issues. When there has been issues, it's always been preventative maintenance kind of things that are addressed pretty quickly. With the redundancy that you get in the system, we've never had an outage, per say. Something that you have to maybe go fix, but not a complete downtime.

Scalability Issues

We never buy just for what we need at the time, we always try to make sure we get the full lifecycle use of the product, and so with 3PAR, it might include having the expandability to add more shelves, or looking at the drives that are denser and things like that, so being able to mix and match parts and stuff.

The scalability has always been there as well, and like I said, in the old version of the BladeSystem, the c7000, that was around for like 10 years, so it's scaled very well. I've never had a problem with scaling.

Customer Service and Technical Support

We have technical account managers, and we call them to handle any kind of maintenance agreement or things like that, and have had very good support from them. If there's something that they can't answer, they're always willing to reach back and get the right point of contact. We've had very good dealings with our technical account manager and technical support.

Initial Setup

There's been some cases where we have migrated systems from one data center into our data center, and done consolidations. Some of that requires backing up older platforms, older systems, and bringing them in. We had one scenario where we migrated a customer, and they were using old LTO tape drives, coming into a new system which didn't support that. In those kind of cases, we had to reach out to HPE for support. Those were things we could handle. Again, during those migrations, I can't say that there was anything that we missed our window. Everything worked out very well.

Other Solutions Considered

We did a trade study between 3PAR and some of the other ones like Pure Storage. I would just say one thing we saw that I think could be helpful is maybe looking at dedupe and how their competitors are doing it, and making sure that they stay aware of what those other competitors are doing as well.

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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it_user442923 - PeerSpot reviewer
it_user442923VMware & Storage Design Lead at a university with 1,001-5,000 employees
Vendor

One thing to be wary of is claimed de-dup ratios, unless you have a blocksize of 16KB or multiple thereof you will not see anything like HPe's claimed de-dup ratio.
We got 4 x HP 3PAR 8440's all-SSD (all flash is something quite different) which was bought on a claimed 1.9:1 de-dup (the choice of vendor being poitical rather than based on relative values of the offerings we considered) and we are seeing 1.1:1 to 1.3:1 after moving approx. 550TB to them.
We were told after install that to get the good de-dup we need to re-blocksize our OS's to 16kB or multiples, the OS's (Windows 2k8/2k12 & Linux 6/7) are default of 4KB.
With over 3,500 VM's this is a tall order!

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President/Lead Analyst at DCIG
Analyst
Recognizes infrequently accessed data and can either move it off to disk or even another HP 3PAR array.

Since 2012, there have been three constants in DCIG’s world: death, taxes and an HP 3PAR StoreServ storage array model coming out on top in its Midrange Array Buyer’s Guides. In each of the three (3) Buyer’s Guides focused on the topic of Midrange Arrays produced in that time, HP 3PAR StoreServ arrays have consistently ranked well with the HP 3PAR F400 coming out on top in 2012, the HP 3PAR StoreServ 7400 in 2013 and the latest 7440c nailing the top spot in the 2015-16 Buyer’s Guide.

To accomplish these feats, HP had to do more than simply put more powerful hardware into its arrays. HP had to merge disk and flash media, offer software that today’s highly virtualized infrastructures require and deliver these in a way that satisfied today’s enterprise demands. The HP 3PAR StoreServ 7440c does so by offering features that represent what enterprises most want midrange arrays to deliver now.

HP 3PAR StoreServ 7440c Proves that ASICs Matter by Unlocking Flash’s Potential

The HP 3PAR StoreServ platform introduced its architecture in the early 2000’s when hard disk drives (HDDs) were the primary storage media used in midrange arrays. Fast forward to today and both HDDs and solid state drives (SSDs) are deployed.

To effectively manage the idiosyncrasies of both media, the HP 3PAR StoreServ 7440c array takes the following steps. For every drive, it recognizes all available capacity on the HDDs in its system and breaks it into chunklets. Using these chunklet, it then creates virtual volumes that span all HDDs (and SSDs). This especially helps to improve HDD performance while expediting the recovery of failed HDDs.

To deliver on the increased performance that SSDs offer, HP 3PAR StoreServ introduced more powerful processors and higher throughput storage networking interfaces as well as updated its software to manage SSDs’ idiosyncrasies. In doing so, the HP 3PAR StoreServ 7440c differentiated itself from competitors in the following ways.

Many competitive storage arrays solely use Intel-based processors to handle their storage processing needs. While this takes advantage of Moore’s Law by doubling processor performance about once every 18 months, Intel-based processors currently have limited to no awareness of data packets nor have they implemented deduplication that would help to make the broader deployments of SSDs within organizations more economical.

The HP 3PAR StoreServ 7440c does use Intel-based processors for some tasks it performs. However, it also use a unique application-specific integrated circuits (ASIC) that is specifically configured and optimized for storage processing. The 3PAR ASIC is programmatically updated in the 7440c to manage the idiosyncrasies of SSDs and take better advantage of their performance features.

The ASIC complements the native wear-leveling algorithms found inside SSDs to help extend their lives. Using the HP 3PAR’s chunklet technology, the ASIC spreads write-intensive blocks of data across SSDs in the system so a single SSD is never overwhelmed with too many writes that would cause it to quickly wear out. The ASIC also optimizes SSD storage capacity through its use of thin deduplication by inspecting each data packet as it passes through the system and making the necessary calculations to deduplicate the data. Due to the techniques it employs to perform deduplication, it accomplishes this with minimal to no impact to application performance.

To further deliver on the performance that SSDs have to offer, the 7440c has a mesh active controller architecture that uses four (4) controllers. These provide high bandwidth, low latency interconnects between each other and to the back end HDDs and/or SSDs. The 7440c takes full advantage of this high bandwidth by spreading writes out across all drives using its wide striping technology. This serves to help SSDs wear more evenly, achieve a longer life and collectively provide the performance boost that organizations expect from SSDs.

By taking all of these steps the 7440c gives organizations the flexibility to effectively use the characteristics of both HDDs and flash. Unlike all-flash arrays that must keep all data on flash, the 7440c recognizes aging and infrequently accessed data residing on flash and can either move it off to disk or even another HP 3PAR array (assuming there is another HP 3PAR array in the environment.)

Forging Ahead with Proven and New Technologies

The flexibility to implement both HDDs and SSDs in a single array is functionality that the HP 3PAR StoreServ 7440c distinguishes itself from competitors in how it manages them. However media management alone did not push the 7440c to the top of the DCIG 2015 Midrange Array Buyer’s Guides. Rather, it was its robust software features.

Like the other models in the 7000 series including the all-flash 7450c, the latest 7440c simplifies storage management, optimizes available storage capacity and accelerates storage performance. Options such as automated storage tiering, deduplication, and priority optimization, to name just a few, have put the 7440c at the forefront of midrange arrays. Collectively these features have contributed to DCIG ranking its array management and virtualization features as “Best-in-Class” in prior DCIG Midrange Array Buyer’s Guides.

Further, HP is not resting on its laurels as it continues to bring forward features to add to the 7440c’s versatility. Features that HP recently introduced to continue to make it practical for organizations to implement the 7440c more easily include:

  • Data migration software. Using its 3PAR Online Import feature, the HP 3PAR StoreServ 7440c can first virtualize other arrays such as the HP EVA, the EMC VNX, the EMC CLARiiON CX4 or the EMC VMAX prior to migrating data off of them.
  • Unified storage. The 7440c concurrently supports both block-based, storage area network (SAN) protocols and file-based, network attached storage (NAS) protocols. The 7440c supports this functionality through its File Personal software that enables the convergence of these protocols on a single HP 3PAR node.
  • VMware VVol support. The HP 3PAR StoreServ 7440c as well as the 3PAR StoreServ 7000 and 10000 systems support the newly announced Virtual Volume (VVol) function on the VMware ESX platform. Providing storage management granularity at the virtual machine (VM) level, it helps to facilitate the introduction of automated, policy-based storage management by eliminating manual LUN management.

HP 3PAR StoreServ 7440’s Top Ranking Stems from Its Alignment with What Organizations Most Need Today

DCIG gave the HP 3PAR StoreServ 7440c high marks in its 2015-16 Enterprise Midrange Array Buyer’s Guide due, in large part, to how well its features align with what organizations need today. Its scalability and mesh active controller architecture position the 7440c particularly well to meet the ever increasing performance demands that enterprises place upon midrange arrays while also offering the flexibility of adding HDDs as needed, Yet what is even more impressive about the HP 3PAR StoreServ 7440c are its array management software and high levels of integration with VMware.

As organizations continue to strive to become ever more “lean and mean” by asking their IT staff to manage an ever more virtualized environment, it is software that easily, effectively and efficiently utilizes and manages the underlying midrange array hardware that differentiates the best from the rest. In this area, HP 3PAR StoreServ 7440c has outpaced its competitors which is reflected by its #1 ranking in the recent DCIG 2015-16 Enterprise Midrange Array Buyer’s Guide.

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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Thanks for summarizing the Buyers Guide Jerome. It's an exciting time for me with HP 3PAR getting such great industry recognition. If you want to explore more about HP 3PAR, here's a link that has lots of other great information: hpstorage.me

Roshan Dias - PeerSpot reviewer
Head of Engineering at Informatics (Private) Limited
Real User
Top 5Leaderboard
An enterprise storage solution that is deployed in banking and insurance companies, but it stability could be improved
Pros and Cons
  • "HPE 3PAR StoreServ is an enterprise storage that is mainly deployed in enterprise scenarios like banking and insurance."
  • "The solution’s stability could be improved."

What is most valuable?

HPE 3PAR StoreServ is an enterprise storage that is mainly deployed in enterprise scenarios like banking and insurance.

What needs improvement?

The solution’s stability could be improved.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

I rate HPE 3PAR StoreServ an eight out of ten for stability.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

Around 20 customers use the solution extensively in their companies.

I rate HPE 3PAR StoreServ a seven out of ten for scalability.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup is straightforward if it is a single server. If there are multiple servers, the initial setup becomes complex.

What about the implementation team?

A single server takes an hour to be deployed.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

The solution has two parts: software and hardware, and you need to buy licenses for some features.

What other advice do I have?

One admin is enough to maintain the solution if it is single storage. A complex environment with a heavy workload will need more people to maintain the solution.

I would recommend HPE 3PAR StoreServ to users based on their use cases.

Overall, I rate HPE 3PAR StoreServ a seven out of ten.

Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: Integrator
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Anjal Dave - PeerSpot reviewer
GM-IT at BSE
Real User
Top 10
An easy-to-deploy and scalable storage product with an experienced support team
Pros and Cons
  • "The initial setup was very straightforward."
  • "The tool is old."

What is our primary use case?

We are using the solution for capacity storage.

What is most valuable?

The initial setup was very straightforward.

What needs improvement?

We are planning to change the storage soon. The tool is old. We are looking for enterprise-grade storage with NVMe capabilities, low latency, and higher responses.

For how long have I used the solution?

We have been using the solution since 2018.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

I rate the product’s stability an eight out of ten.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

The tool’s scalability is good. I rate the scalability a nine out of ten. The product is not for users. It is used by an application. We are using 70% of the total capacity of the tool. We are looking to change the solution.

How are customer service and support?

The support team has good capabilities. The team has people with good experience.

How would you rate customer service and support?

Positive

How was the initial setup?

I rate the ease of setup an eight out of ten. The deployment took three to four months.

What about the implementation team?

We have an on-site team. One or two people are required for implementation and deployment.

What other advice do I have?

We choose the solution because HPE is a long-term partner. Overall, I rate the solution an eight out of ten.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

On-premises
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reviewer281076 - PeerSpot reviewer
Director of Technology Services at a educational organization with 201-500 employees
Real User
Secure, stable, scalable, and has good support
Pros and Cons
    • "The interface could be improved to match the system."

    What is our primary use case?

    We use it for our financial system.

    What needs improvement?

    The interface could be improved to match the system.

    The initial setup could be simplified.

    For how long have I used the solution?

    I have been using HPE 3PAR StoreServ for three years.

    We are using a 3PAR 8800.

    What do I think about the stability of the solution?

    HPE 3PAR StoreServ is a stable solution. We haven't had it go down.

    What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

    It's a scalable solution.

    How are customer service and technical support?

    Our experience with technical support was good.

    Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

    We did not use any other solution previously.

    How was the initial setup?

    The initial setup was complex.

    I would suggest that you don't install it on your own, and you get help from an HPE solution provider or an architect to assist you with that.

    What about the implementation team?

    We had help from an HPE solution provider.

    What was our ROI?

    You are not spending that money to truly get ROI on the equipment. You are basically trusting that device to keep you safe.

    We have had it for three years and we haven't had one hiccup. It was money well spent. The $60,000 was well spent.

    What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

    We purchased the total package for approximately $60,000. That was purchasing it outright.

    Which other solutions did I evaluate?

    We are an HP shop. It was natural for us to go with HPE for the storage solution. When we were looking, there were other solutions out there such as Dell EMC but we opted not to go with them. We decided to stick with an HPE brand solution.

    What other advice do I have?

    I would rate HPE 3PAR StoreServ and eight out of ten.

    Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

    On-premises
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    Technical Account Manager at a tech services company with 201-500 employees
    Real User
    Scalable, highly stable, and good technical support
    Pros and Cons
    • "The technical support is very good."
    • "HPE could improve by making an old flash system in order to compete with the current market. For the solution to be more competitive in the mid-range market they could increase the performance."

    What is our primary use case?

    The main use for this solution is for storing large data in the backend. It is used in many companies, such as financial institutions. Unfortunately, it has come to the end of service life, companies are going to other solutions because there are cheaper products, it cost too much to maintain the 3PAR.

    What needs improvement?

    HPE could improve by making an old flash system in order to compete with the current market. For the solution to be more competitive in the mid-range market they could increase the performance.

    For how long have I used the solution?

    I have been using HPE 3PAR StoreServ for approximately 10 years.

    What do I think about the stability of the solution?

    The solution is very stable.

    What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

    The solution is scalable and we have approximately 10 customers using this solution.

    How are customer service and technical support?

    The technical support is very good.

    How was the initial setup?

    The time it takes for the installation depends on the number of enclosures. However, the average time is approximately six hours. The most time-consuming part is doing the scaling.

    What about the implementation team?

    Most of the installation is done by the HPE because at the time of the installation there were not any engineers trained. We had approximately two engineers that were new to the product and we did the installation with the help of the HPE engineers remotely.

    We have three engineers doing the maintenance of the solution.

    What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

    If HPE reduced the price of 3PAR StoreServ they would be more attractive to mid-range companies.

    What other advice do I have?

    At this time I would not recommend this solution because it is at the end of its service life.

    I rate HPE 3PAR StoreServ a nine out of ten.

    Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

    On-premises
    Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: Partner
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