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Director of North America at a sports company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Moving past traditional hard drives has improved performance and increased productivity
Pros and Cons
- "We can do more, faster, whether it's spinning up more virtual machines or handling large amounts of data."
- "We had a minor error when we were configuring this system, which initially detracted from its overall stability."
What is our primary use case?
How has it helped my organization?
This solution handles everything to do with our business. If it’s down then we can’t deliver to our customers. We can do more, faster, whether it's spinning up more virtual machines or handling large amounts of data.
The All-Flash has positioned us for growth because we can do more. Going past traditional hard drives has really been fantastic for us. Our performance has increased by anywhere from fifty to one hundred percent. Moreover, our deployment time has been reduced by about fifty percent.
For us, the increase in throughput translates to an increase in productivity.
What is most valuable?
The most valuable feature of this solution is its security.
The deduplication functionality is fantastic.
What needs improvement?
We had a minor error when we were configuring this system, which initially detracted from its overall stability.
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What do I think about the stability of the solution?
We had some minor issues at first, although it was mostly due to configuration. Since those were ironed out it's been very smooth.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
The scalability of this solution is excellent.
How are customer service and support?
Technical support for this solution has been great.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
Prior to implementing this solution we were using one by Dell. We were not meeting our commitments to customers because it was not meeting our performance requirements.
We had a lot of legacy hardware in our environment, and the step into the future by implementing this solution has been fantastic.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup was a little complex. It was our first time setting it up but now as we're doing another iteration it is much smoother.
What about the implementation team?
We used a consultant to assist with our deployment and it was a good experience.
What was our ROI?
We get about twenty percent more productivity out of our people because we use this solution.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
We do not have any licensing fees.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
We only considered solutions by HPE because we have a partnership between our companies and they are our number one pick.
What other advice do I have?
This product has met our expectations. Once we got past the minor configuration issues, it's been smooth sailing, so I'm very happy with it. It is important to understand the terminology upfront because it helps prepare to do the actual implementation.
I would rate this solution a ten out of ten.
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Network Admin at a healthcare company with 501-1,000 employees
Data access has been tremendously better
Pros and Cons
- "The product has definitely improved throughput. We are able to more efficiently see patients because all of our medical records and practice management software seems to run faster. Uploading images and charts is a lot faster. Recalling information in the exam rooms is faster. The overall throughput of data, going back and forth, is so we can more efficiently see patients, and it also helps increase our patient flow. We can see patients a lot faster, getting them in and out a lot more quickly."
- "I would like an easier user interface and setup to help with deployment. There were many areas of the setup where I was like, “Why don't we do it this way?” Therefore, some of the things in the user interface could have been more refined, so you don't have to click in 5000 different places to accomplish one goal. Less clicks means more efficiency."
- "The initial setup was pretty complex. There were a lot of different things that had to happen which was the reason why they had to send out the HPE engineers to help us."
What is our primary use case?
It is our primary storage. The entire company runs off 3PAR. Right now, we are in a VMware environment. All of our virtual machines are stored on 3PAR, along with all of our EMR applications, practice management solutions, and email. All of our virtual machines are running off of 3PAR. Our file server is on there too.
How has it helped my organization?
The product has heavily improved the way our organizations functions. Before we got the 3PAR, we were running an HPE Generation 6 server as our storage server. It was slow, and we were getting low on space, so we weren't able to expand capacity that easily. Since we went to 3PAR, it has fiber connections connecting all the cabinets together. Therefore, data access has been tremendously better, especially when we have to constantly recall, all day long everyday, patients charts or when we are doing scheduling. We see over 2000 patients on a daily basis, so we have to have speed and reliability. By implementing 3PAR over the old, regular file storage server that we had before, it has drastically improved our patient care.
What is most valuable?
Reliability is its most valuable feature. We have multiple cabinets with multiple failure points, so if there is one failure then we don't have worry about it. It is easy to replace a part of the cabinet when we are up and running. We can replicate back over, then we are good to go. Our uptime has to be there, so we can continue seeing patients. That is the biggest part of the reliability that I am looking for.
What needs improvement?
I would like an easier user interface and setup to help with deployment. There were many areas of the setup where I was like, “Why don't we do it this way?” Therefore, some of the things in the user interface could have been more refined, so you don't have to click in 5000 different places to accomplish one goal. Less clicks means more efficiency.
I feel like there is a big training gap. Obviously, the HPE engineers know all about the product and can come in and do the setup with ease. However, once they hand off the product to the in-house IT group, there might be a learning gap there. E.g,, I have to call them now every time I have a problem.
I feel like they should've spent more time with us. They were only onsite for two days, and I feel like there should be more outside training to explain how to use the product.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
It has been pretty stable. We have only had one major issue. It was because of a redundancy that we had set up. HPE sent us a new part, then we swapped it in and were back up and running.
So far, I'm pretty satisfied with the solution's availability.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
So far, we have not had to scale up. However, that day may be coming, and we actually provisioned our 3PAR to be scalable in the future. So, I think the scalability is pretty good considering HPE helped us design and implement it in a way where we can scale up when needed.
How are customer service and technical support?
So far, the technical support has been good. We had one major failure and the technical support team sent us a part within four hours. Then, we had the new part, and it was everything was back up and running. We were able to talk to a 3PAR specialist to walk us through how to get everything reconfigured. So, there was virtually no down time.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
The previous solution that we had was about 10 years old. It was an HPE Generation 6 server. We had some management changes, and it was time for a refresh which we hadn't done in many years.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup was pretty complex. There were a lot of different things that had to happen which was the reason why they had to send out the HPE engineers to help us.
My philosophy is if you have to send out an engineer to do it, then it is probably more complicated for the end user.
What about the implementation team?
Softchoice helped us procure the equipment, and HPE sent out 3PAR specialists to help us configure and deploy the product. Our experience with Softchoice was great.
It was pretty easy to deploy the product to begin with because HPE helped us do it. They sent product specialists in. So, deployment of this particular product was definitely easy-breezy.
What was our ROI?
We have seen ROI. We are able to see more patients now, bringing more money into the practice.
3PAR has increased our performance.
The product has definitely improved throughput. We are able to more efficiently see patients because all of our medical records and practice management software seems to run faster. Uploading images and charts is a lot faster. Recalling information in the exam rooms is faster. The overall throughput of data, going back and forth, is so we can more efficiently see patients, and it also helps increase our patient flow. We can see patients a lot faster, getting them in and out a lot more quickly.
What other advice do I have?
Spend your time doing the research on the product and learn the system.
So far, it has been pretty reliable. It has been a set it and forget it type product, which has been great, except for when there are some minor issues. However, the issues that we have had were resolved fairly quickly.
We are flash and standard disk combo, or hybrid. Having flash though does not mean that we have faster performance. What it does helps us with is being able to see more patients, because we're not having to wait as long for applications to load or waiting for the data to get sent to where it needs to be.
Biggest lesson learnt: Why didn't we do it a long time ago?
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Sr. Storage Architect at a manufacturing company with 5,001-10,000 employees
Peer Motion makes data migration easy
Pros and Cons
- "I would like to see more cloud-based integrations and more file storage capabilities."
What is our primary use case?
We use about 40 percent of our workload in 3PAR. We have 3PAR 7400, V-Class series. We use dynamic tiering, so we have a mixed workload, SSD Fibre Channel and Nearline storage.
In terms of performance, it has been a little bit up and down, but overall there isn't much to complain about. It's because we have the Nearline storage, so that doesn't perform well. That is the reason we have SSD and Fibre Channel tiering. We use Adaptive Optimization and that helps us to improve certain applications using those high-performance tiers.
What is most valuable?
The next step for us is refreshing, likely with another 3PAR. Migrating the workload from one 3PAR, to another 3PAR is pretty easy using Peer Motion.
In terms of multiple business needs, we have multiple applications running and I don't have complaints. I think 3PAR runs multiple applications well. They're easy to manage.
Overall it performs well.
What needs improvement?
I would like to see more cloud-based integrations and more file storage capabilities. They do have that now, but we haven't started using it.
For how long have I used the solution?
Three to five years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
We haven't had any major issues on 3PAR. We have pretty much had 100 percent uptime; we haven't had any outage. We run a lot of production workload on it with no issues.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
Regarding scalability, we are maxed out right now on all our 3PARs, so we can not add more storage. So we just order a new one and it's fine.
How are customer service and technical support?
Support is good, overall.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
We had HPE EVA storage. We switched because all of it was legacy storage. We migrated from legacy storage to the new 3PAR. The main reason we went with HPE was the migration from the old legacy to the new 3PAR was very seamless. They have Peer Motion integration so the data migration was easy. If we had gone with another vendor we would have had to do an offline migration.
When it comes to selecting a vendor, HPE is our business partner so we use their products.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup was not that complex. We work with HPE to take care of all the implementations. It took less than one day.
What was our ROI?
Our ROI has been pretty good. I can't share how much we invested, but it has been almost five years and we migrated something like 40 or 50 HPE EVAs to two 3PARs. We consolidated it quite a bit.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
We did consider other vendors. That's the reason we did a proof of concept and 3PAR was the winner. The other vendors on our short-list were EMC and NetApp.
What other advice do I have?
I rate it a nine out of 10 because the product just works; we haven't had a lot of problems. I'm satisfied with the product.
3PAR is a proven, more reliable and stable SAN solution. Go with it.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Virtualization Systems Administrator at a university with 10,001+ employees
We do not have to take the whole system down to do upgrades
Pros and Cons
- "We do not have to take the whole system down to do upgrades."
- "With the support that our organization has, I can talk to someone right away if I have an issue. It has been very good."
- "During the initial setup, it was a bit complex in the wiring of the cages."
What is our primary use case?
It hosts our virtualization platform. It works really well.
How has it helped my organization?
We do not have to take the whole system down now to do upgrades.
What is most valuable?
It is very easy to use. That is its best feature.
What needs improvement?
What I would like to see the SSMC management interface and the regular, Microsoft Management Console (MMC) interface. I would have to use both, because one of them has features, the other one does not, and vice versa.
For how long have I used the solution?
Three to five years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
It is very stable.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
Scalability is improving. We have some 7400s, 8200s, and 8400s. So, we can scale pretty well.
How are customer service and technical support?
With the support that our organization has, I can talk to someone right away if I have an issue. It has been very good.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
We were using HPE EVA. We had a lot of issues with it to begin with. Anytime you wanted to do an upgrade, you had to take systems offline. That just would not work for us.
We switched when our warranties were up.
How was the initial setup?
It was a bit complex in the wiring of the cages. Other than that, it was pretty straightforward.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
We also evaluated Dell. We chose 3PAR because of price and functionality.
There are some things out there now, such as HPE SimpliVity that do more things, and maybe we would like to go in that direction. Right now, we are doing a PoC with HPE SimpliVity. It seems to be working well, especially the backup solution that it has with it, where you can do snapshots. We really like that since 3PAR does not have this.
What other advice do I have?
I am not on the latest release yet. We are still trying to get there. The people that I work with at HPE have recommended where we should be in our version. We are not to the 3.3 version yet. I am looking forward to upgrading, because you can do them yourself. You do not have to have HPE do them. Also, it will integrate with InfoSight, which I am looking forward to.
Most important criteria when selecting a vendor: In our case, price is usually the biggest factor, because we are a university and have no money. Price is always big when we make a decision.
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Easy to add more storage, reasonably-priced, and reliable
Pros and Cons
- "It is reliable, and it seems like a solid product. It has been working well so far."
- "The speed of the hard disk could be better. The performance is the main issue for us. The performance of the VMs is not comparable to desktop machines, for instance, and we might need another solution to improve the performance. Other than that, we don't have any issues. We already have a great part of storage with SSDs, and the performance is not as good as I expected."
What is our primary use case?
It is for shared storage for virtual machines running VMware.
What is most valuable?
It is reliable, and it seems like a solid product. It has been working well so far.
What needs improvement?
The speed of the hard disk could be better. The performance is the main issue for us. The performance of the VMs is not comparable to desktop machines, for instance, and we might need another solution to improve the performance. Other than that, we don't have any issues. We already have a great part of storage with SSDs, and the performance is not as good as I expected.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have been using this solution for about three years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
It is stable. I didn't have any issues.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
It is scalable. You can add storage quite easily.
We have only 10 users. It is a small system.
How are customer service and support?
I never contacted HPE support because I have a selling partner, but we didn't have many issues. So, we rarely needed any support.
How was the initial setup?
Its initial setup was done by our partner, who has previous experience. So, it was relatively easy.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
It is reasonable. As compared to other solutions, it doesn't seem to be much different.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
I tried to look, but it was more about the products that our IT partner had available than me choosing. They had previous experience with HPE and 3PAR, and they recommended it to us, and we followed their advice.
What other advice do I have?
I can't compare it with other brands because we only have this system.
I would advise having some reference implementation that you can test and see if it's good for your needs. In my case, I would have liked to have the opportunity to test it first to see if it's good for our use case, but I couldn't.
I would rate it an eight out of 10. Performance is the only thing that I would like them to improve.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
On-premises
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Systems Manager at a tech services company with 10,001+ employees
Allows us to mix drive spaces; the redundancy and tiering are also key for us
What is our primary use case?
VMware and SQL.
In terms of performance, we had an issue with the earlier version, the 7400, an iSCSI issue. They replaced it with one from the 8000 series and it has been doing pretty well so far.
How has it helped my organization?
It lets us mix a lot of drive spaces, as well as performance drives, between Fibre Channel, long-term storage, and SSD drives. It performs pretty well as far as moving the data around and not letting a lot of it go to waste.
What is most valuable?
- Redundancy
- Performance (I/O and stability)
- The tiering
What needs improvement?
Nothing really comes to mind. We talked to somebody earlier today, here at HPE Discover 2018, about their Docker integration for it, so that's something we'll probably check out next for both the 3PAR and Nimble.
For how long have I used the solution?
More than five years.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
We haven't any issues with scalability. We have added a lot of different shelves to it, we have close to about 400 terabytes. It has done pretty well in that regard.
How is customer service and technical support?
Technical support is pretty good. We've used it mainly for firmware upgrades and those type of things. We also used them initially for troubleshooting issues on the previous version. They have been helpful.
How was the initial setup?
I was not involved in the initial setup. We did have HPE onsite to help with that. It didn't take too long, maybe two to three days.
What was our ROI?
I believe it is paying off at this point, but I don't have any numbers for ROI.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
We looked at Dell, Tegile, and Pure Storage. We went with HPE in the end because we already have HPE equipment, we're mostly HPE server and software, so we went with that. We're trying out the new Nimble now in our new data center.
When I evaluate vendors the important criteria are
- redundancy
- scalability
- performance
- metrics for reporting.
What other advice do I have?
My advice would be, make sure you know your workloads going into it and how you will best be able to utilize a solution, especially when deciding what disk structure to get and how to lay it out.
Overall, I would rate 3PAR at eight out of 10. The biggest issues we had were performance issues with the older version, but this one has been doing okay.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
IT Architect at Oncor Electric Delivery
Enabled us to consolidate down to a single platform which meets all of our needs
Pros and Cons
- "When we started using 3PAR what we liked was the simplicity of the product. We needed a higher performance storage and, in our support model, we needed to keep the simplicity of the storage architecture, keep it as clean and as manageable as we could."
How has it helped my organization?
From a management standpoint of the arrays, they work really well. They handle a lot of data and, overall, it lowers the complexity of our storage infrastructure. We've been able to consolidate down to a single platform which meets all of our demands, anywhere from our advanced meter systems to our customer information system.
What is most valuable?
When we started using 3PAR what we liked was the simplicity of the product. We needed a higher performance storage and, in our support model, we needed to keep the simplicity of the storage architecture, keep it as clean and as manageable as we could.
What needs improvement?
We have seen one area, where we have highly virtualized Solaris instances, where we're getting into the queue depth, so we probably need to do some work in the queue-depth area in the arrays. I'm not sure if its specific to Solaris, because we haven't encountered it on other platforms but, then again, on some of our largest Solaris frames, we are running several hundred virtual containers and we see the queue-depth issue there.
For how long have I used the solution?
More than five years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
It has been stable. It has been very reliable. I have no problems around it.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
As we transform and we're starting to move data, much more data, we're looking at the scalability. I don't have any indicators that it will not scale, but there is a lot of analysis we have to do. We're doing modeling of that data right now to see what decisions we will make in 2019. I am assuming we will maintain at least some 3PAR, but we may have to compliment it with something else, based on the demands we have around our data.
How is customer service and technical support?
From my experience, tech support has been good. I'm not directly interacting with support due to my role but the feedback I've received has been good.
How was the initial setup?
This is a question better answered by the guys who actually support it, but it's my understanding that the upgrade process is pretty seamless. They scheduled it over a weekend, they rolled the upgrade through, and it works pretty well. Occasionally, there are glitches they need to work through but, from what I have observed, they're minor.
The process doesn't drag on. It's just planning, scheduling it, change tickets go in, and then they run it. It's a process that pretty much takes under a day. And then, after implementing, it's a matter of watching it to make sure everything is smooth after the upgrade finishes.
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Storage and Backup Engineer at Fidelity Investments
All the disk drives in the system are used for data, since parity and spares are at the chunklet level. I'd like, however, a unified system with the same controller serving both SAN and NAS solutions.
What is most valuable?
- Scaleable from two to eight controller nodes for High Availability
- Persistent fabric array ports
- Performance tuning
- Dynamic and adaptive optimizations
- Highly granular storage
- One gigabyte miniature disk concept called "chunklets"
- Striping of data across all disks available - wide striping
- Highly intelligent Gen3 and Gen 4 ASICs which acts as the brain of the 3PAR storage systems. This is not a regular CPU
- Very quick redistribution of data if there's a disk failure
- All the disk drives in the system are used for data, since parity and spares are at the chunklet level.
How has it helped my organization?
I cannot share the information on how it improved our storage estates, but in general, it has very good SAN performance compared to EMC Clariion, IBM XIV, IBM Storwize V7000 and its other competitors.
What needs improvement?
They have released a unified version of HP 3PAR, with a separate NAS server unit in the enclosure/rack. I would like to see a proper unified system (same controller serving both SAN and NAS solutions) such as NetApp offers.
For how long have I used the solution?
We've been using it for three years. We currently have a 7400 (mix of disk drives), and a 7450 (full flash array, only SSD disks),
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
The performance is optimal, if we have planned everything properly well in advance.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
These are mid-range storage solutions that can be scaled up to 700TB of space depending on the type of disks we use. It does have enterprise solutions that can scale up to eight controller nodes with 1.8PB of usable capacity. However, we have a 7400 and a 7450 with lot of provisioning done to ESX systems with thousands of VMs.
How are customer service and technical support?
Customer Service:
HP customer support, especially for 3PAR is excellent.
Technical Support:They have highly skilled technical support team. I would rate them 8/10.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
We chose 3PAR because it has the best price compared to its competitors, and delivers the performance expected.
What about the implementation team?
The initial setup/installation was done by the vendor. We needed to provide them with the necessary hardware and network information, (DNS, NIS etc). Their experience was very good, I have no complaints.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
Pricing and licensing depend on the customer/partner deals and negotiations/agreements.
What other advice do I have?
It has met our performance and stability expectations. 3PAR is one of the best in the market and it is evident that its sales have raised to 10x since it was acquired by HP. All cloud solutions from HP and many other companies use HP 3PAR storage on their backend for their cloud solutions.
Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: We are a platinum customer.
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