We are into little segments and we are using SAP's little option. We are using five models in that S4HANA, and this is just the backend. On the front-end side, we are using both applications and both are integrated together.
Head-IT/SAP at Barista Coffee Company Ltd.
Good integration capabilities with helpful best practices and great technical support
Pros and Cons
- "The integration is very stable."
- "The pricing is high."
What is our primary use case?
What is most valuable?
The primary and secondary line views are very helpful.
The solution is reliable.
The scalability is very good.
The integration is very stable. We have 18 years of SAP experience and we simply have migrated to S4HANA. We are using SAP Best Practices within our business requirements and it works very well for using this approach.
Technical support has always been insightful and responsive.
What needs improvement?
There isn't anything I would want to improve on. It's a good solution.
There is a difference between the real-time synchronization of any application or the solution that's provided by the OEM. SAP is providing releases or notes frequently, so it's an ongoing activity. SAP is constantly providing small, small patches to upgrade everything. The release strategy is based on the OEM. It works fine for us, this approach.
The pricing is high.
For how long have I used the solution?
We have used SAP for the last 17 years, however, recently, last year, we migrated into HANA.
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What do I think about the stability of the solution?
The stability of the product is good. It doesn't crash or freeze. There are no bugs or glitches. The performance is reliable.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
We've never had issues with scalability. It's good. If a company needs to expand, it can do so.
We currently have 40 or more SAP users in our business. While we have over 700 employees, the backend application can only be used by corporate or regional team members.
How are customer service and support?
Technical support has been great. We've used them in the past and have been satisfied with how they have helped us.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
I am also familiar with Oracle and Microsoft Dynamics. This product has a higher cost, however, it is the best option and therefore you get good value for money.
That said, our company is almost 20 years old and we adopted SAP about 18 years ago. We've pretty much always used it.
How was the initial setup?
The installation or implementation of this product takes around five months. It's about the process implementation. Therefore, whenever you will implement any application, you have to understand how it will fit into your business. You need to consider the business use cases and the user interactions. All of these tasks take time.
What about the implementation team?
While we handled the solution's implementation in-house, we also had an in-house consultant who assisted us in the process.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
If you compare this product with the big players - like Oracle and Microsoft Dynamics - SAP is quite costly. That said, if you are talking about the solution, SAP is the number one option.
You do need to pay for a license. It's an architectural license based on maintenance costs. Every year we have to pay 22% of the purchase costs and maintenance costs. It's not a subscription-based model, it's a perpetual model.
What other advice do I have?
I would recommend the solution to others. We have 18 years or so of experience with SAP and we've always found the solution to be excellent. We deeply understand SAP and SAP culture. We understand the processes and how to leverage everything for the betterment of our business. We're totally aligned with SAP.
I would rate the solution at a nine out of ten.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
Public Cloud
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CEO at a manufacturing company with 11-50 employees
The readymade processes make it a good option if you're adopting a greenfield approach
Pros and Cons
- "I like S/4HANA's automated features, readymade processes, and user interface. It supports various processes required by large international companies, like logistics, procurement, payments, sales, etc. All of these features were available in previous SAP solutions, but HANA has an updated user interface and improved integration with other systems. The readymade processes make HANA a good option if you're adopting a greenfield approach."
- "S/4HANA isn't ideal for managing contracts and subscriptions. There isn't a feature to notify us when a contract for a service we need is approaching its end or a product is no longer supported. You need a separate solution for that."
What is our primary use case?
We're a manufacturing company that uses S/4HANA for managing finances and other business processes.
What is most valuable?
I like S/4HANA's automated features, readymade processes, and user interface. It supports various processes required by large international companies, like logistics, procurement, payments, sales, etc. All of these features were available in previous SAP solutions, but HANA has an updated user interface and improved integration with other systems. The readymade processes make HANA a good option if you're adopting a greenfield approach.
What needs improvement?
S/4HANA isn't ideal for managing contracts and subscriptions. There isn't a feature to notify us when a contract for a service we need is approaching its end or a product is no longer supported. You need a separate solution for that.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have used S/4HANA for the last eighteen months.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
S/4HANA is stable, but it needs resources.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
S/4HANA is scalable.
How are customer service and support?
I have contacted SAP support in Germany and Spain many times and also SAP partners. SAP support is excellent, but the support from partners varies depending on who you get. Some are more experienced than others.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
I have used other SAP ERP solutions that were more appropriate for small and medium-sized companies, like logistics warehouses. They didn't have good enough support. S/4HANA is easier to use and suitable for large, complex organizations.
How was the initial setup?
You need to prepare before deploying S/4HANA. You need to do a feasibility study and have a team analyze the current processes. It involves several groups of employees, like testing, configuration, and interface teams. Before implementing, you need to know what resources are needed. It's easier if you are adopting a greenfield approach. It can take two years or more for a large company to deploy S/4HANA company fully. It's at least one year.
The system requires ongoing maintenance. You need people who can code and understand SAP logic. It's hard to maintain if you have to change something.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
The license for S/4HANA is expensive, and the licensing structure is hard to understand. The admin license is something like 500 euros per user. Other ERP solutions allowed you to pick only the modules you need. The SAP ECC version requires you to take all the modules even if you are not using them.
You take the whole system and pay your monthly fees. S/4HANA can define licenses based on roles, series, etc., but there are so many kinds of licenses and fees. It's more complicated than the licensing for Microsoft Dynamics or other SaaS ERP tools.
What other advice do I have?
I rate SAP S/4HANA eight out of 10. Before implementing an ERP tool, you should understand your needs, processes, and business requirements.
Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: Partner
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Head of Professional Services at HCC - Technology & Advisory
It's reliable, accurate, and we save on infrastructure costs
Pros and Cons
- "S4HANA Cloud is reliable and accurate. Our existing team also has expertise in SAP, so it was simple to migrate to the cloud solution. S4HANA Cloud has advantages because we don't need to maintain the infrastructure, and there aren't any huge upfront costs."
- "Integrating SAP with other products like payroll solutions should be smoother. I wish there were some tools a consultant could build according to the client's requirements. For example, say I want to process debit and credits. In SAP, we have to follow SAP terminologies and patterns. I need a template to deploy my structure according to the client's requirements. There is no structure available in SAP that a consultant can mold."
What is most valuable?
S4HANA Cloud is reliable and accurate. Our existing team also has expertise in SAP, so it was simple to migrate to the cloud solution. S4HANA Cloud has advantages because we don't need to maintain the infrastructure, and there aren't any huge upfront costs.
What needs improvement?
We have to deploy add-ons integrated with the B1 when we are on the cloud option, and we face challenges with web integrations. Right now, when we attempt web integration, some of the ports are not open. There are infrastructure issues like IP conflicts and switches that need to be redefined.
Integrating SAP with other products like payroll solutions should be smoother. I wish there were some tools a consultant could build according to the client's requirements. For example, say I want to process debit and credits. In SAP, we have to follow SAP terminologies and patterns. I need a template to deploy my structure according to the client's requirements. There is no structure available in SAP that a consultant can mold.
This product is implemented in 35 domains across multiple organizations with different structures, so there is a bottleneck in multiple segments. The consultant needs different models to help with the financials.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have worked with S4HANA Cloud for two years, but I have eight years of experience with on-premise SAP solutions.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
S4HANA Cloud is stable.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
S4HANA Cloud is scalable. Over the last six years, you can see how much it has improved. SAP has added multiple modules, new features, and patches. The usage depends on the company structure. Some companies need 20 to 30 licenses while others may require more than 100.
How are customer service and support?
We submitted multiple requests to SAP for technical support, and their response was quite good.
How was the initial setup?
S4HANA seems quite complicated when you first deploy it, but after you go through the setup procedure once, the next implementation is smooth. The maintenance depends on the complexity of the deployment and the company's structure. For example, plant maintenance requires three to four users. It all depends on the company structure, like the number of call centers involved, revenue, etc.
What about the implementation team?
One consultant can handle the deployment by themselves. It's not so complex.
What other advice do I have?
I rate SAP S4HANA Cloud seven out of 10.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
Private Cloud
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Director of Operations of Support / co CEO at Snag Free
Stable application which supports both standard and customized integrations
Pros and Cons
- "Both standard and customized integrations work well with no issues."
- "Difficult to install and difficult to test. Testing needs to be improved. Scalability of this solution also needs improvement."
What is most valuable?
One of the advantages of this product is integration. It has a really fantastic integration. I always have a one-to-one with my integration consultants: doing the success factor integration with SAP S/4HANA Cloud, or doing other types of integrations. We have a lot of methods for integration: standard integration and customized integration with third parties. The integrations work well with no issues.
What needs improvement?
SAP S/4HANA Cloud vs Oracle: In Oracle, for example, you can easily install even Oracle 19c or the latest version in your laptop. You can test it, get it certified, and even look for the application, but it's really difficult to install Hana. It's really difficult to reach any testing environment. It's difficult to test the version.
I'm struggling to hire in my team. While I was with Oracle for 15 years as a senior manager for their support solution center in Smart Village, I didn't face that much of a struggle in hiring like what I'm facing now in SAP. This is because Oracle (like Microsoft) made their products available for downloading, testing, etc., but for SAP, it's difficult.
I've had sufficient time to evaluate ByD. It is going on the right track in terms of improvement: technical-wise and featurewise. There's nothing you need to improve in this solution's performance. There's nothing major in its essential or core features: in the FI or supply chain or procurement through the cloud. It's doing a great job.
Testing is the main thing I'd like to see improved.
An additional feature I'd like to see on SAP S/4HANA Cloud is the production application or module. For small to medium businesses, there's only a finance module and the standard non-finance module, e.g. supply chain, but there's no production planning. That is a factor. We need to use the smaller version of production planning with the smaller version of quality management. I hope to see this feature in the cloud application.
For how long have I used the solution?
I've been using this solution for six years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
I see this application as really stable.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
They need to improve SAP S/4HANA Cloud's scalability and make it like Oracle's. They need to do more about scalability. This is a major issue and they need to put more effort into it, but I think they are improving.
How are customer service and support?
I don't have complaints about the support. They were able to point out the problem.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
I evaluated Oracle.
What other advice do I have?
I don't have much information about AWS, but it's booming. I hear a lot of customers moving to AWS because they say it's stable and has no major issues with it. I have more experience with SAP S/4HANA Cloud though, and it's fantastic. It's going very well. Most of the small to medium companies are now moving to business by design. This is a very great application.
Hana hosting vs AWS: It is the same in Hana, but on cloud. I'm talking about the cloud application, e.g. ByD. This is great.
This solution isn't resource-intensive. It's a low-key solution.
S4 Hana on cloud vs on-premises: It's been years since on-premise deployment has been applied. All should move to the cloud version. You will be forced to move to the cloud version. No more on-premise will be available for this solution.
I've been working in the last five or six years focusing on SAP cloud applications, even the on-premises ones. It ranks number one from my point of view. The other products in the market are also doing fine, but from the integration point of view, especially in the production and manufacturing industries: It's the number one application in manufacturing, so this gives a great advantage to SAP.
I would say to every CEO or to any company that they should start looking into moving their applications and their database. They should move everything to cloud before they are forced to do it because of limited time. They need to be proactive in this direction because there's a lot of benefits from the cloud from a performance perspective. It helps people to focus on data analysis, reports, and maintenance of cloud environments. It requires less effort on the IT people, so we can use them to start focusing on other current digitalization requirements. There's a lot of challenges and they need to sprint all of their work e.g. field work, work related to hardware and networking switches, etc.
I'm giving this solution a score of eight out of ten.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
Public Cloud
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SAP Infrastructure Consultant at Equatorial Energia S.A.
Provides a valuable integrated scheduling tool and has a helpful technical support team
Pros and Cons
- "The technical support team has been responsive and helpful, addressing issues and providing solutions promptly whenever needed."
- "The product could be improved by enhancing its user interface to make it more intuitive and by increasing the customization options for tracking and reporting, which would better align with our specific needs."
What is our primary use case?
Our primary use case for SAP S/4HANA Cloud is managing and coordinating theatre productions, including handling logistics, accommodations, and technical requirements. It supports our environment by streamlining communication and ensuring seamless event execution across various venues.
How has it helped my organization?
The solution has significantly improved our organization by enhancing our ability to manage multiple productions efficiently. It has streamlined coordination between teams, improved communication, and facilitated better tracking of logistical needs, leading to smoother operations and reduced manual errors.
What is most valuable?
The platform's most valuable features include the integrated scheduling tool, which allows us to coordinate between different teams and venues effortlessly, and the comprehensive logistics tracking system, ensuring that all aspects of our productions are managed effectively.
What needs improvement?
The product could be improved by enhancing its user interface to make it more intuitive and by increasing the customization options for tracking and reporting, which would better align with our specific needs.
They should include advanced analytics features for performance tracking and reporting, as well as improved integration with other tools we use for budgeting and scheduling.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
The product is generally stable, with minimal disruptions or downtime, which is crucial for maintaining the smooth operation of our productions.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
The product is highly scalable, effectively accommodating the needs of both small and large-scale productions without compromising performance.
How are customer service and support?
The technical support team has been responsive and helpful, addressing issues and providing solutions promptly whenever needed.
How would you rate customer service and support?
Positive
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
We previously used a different solution but switched because the former needed to provide the level of integration and customization we required for managing complex theatre productions.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup was relatively straightforward but required some customization to fit our requirements. The process involved integrating various components and configuring settings to align with our operational requirements.
What about the implementation team?
We implemented the solution with the assistance of a vendor team.
What was our ROI?
The return on investment has been positive. The solution contributed to more efficient operations and reduced overhead costs, which impacted our overall budget favorably.
What other advice do I have?
Overall, SAP S/4HANA Cloud has been a valuable asset to our operations. We are taking full advantage of the available training resources to maximize its benefits and provide feedback to the provider for continuous improvements.
I rate it a nine out of ten.
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Offers scalability, ease of deployment, and a user-friendly interface
Pros and Cons
- "The most valuable aspect of SAP S/4HANA Cloud is its ease of deployment and the reduced hassles of infrastructure support."
- "There is room for improvement in SAP S/4HANA Cloud, particularly in enhancing the application's response time."
What is our primary use case?
In my consulting work, clients commonly use SAP S/4HANA Cloud for finance and logistics. Some integrate additional applications through the Business Technology Platform, while others streamline manufacturing processes with Digital Supply Chain functionalities.
What is most valuable?
The most valuable aspect of SAP S/4HANA Cloud is its ease of deployment and the reduced hassles of infrastructure support. Compared to the earlier on-premise ECC version, upgrading is now much smoother, eliminating the challenges that used to appear during version upgrades. One significant advantage is that SAP handles infrastructure support and downtime directly when the system is hosted in its environment. This not only saves time but also mitigates the challenges associated with managing infrastructure independently.
What needs improvement?
There is room for improvement in SAP S/4HANA Cloud, particularly in enhancing the application's response time. While it is not problematic, any improvements in this area would be beneficial. Additionally, despite the availability of the BTP for integration, there is a potential for increased flexibility. A more adaptable environment from SAP in terms of integration would be highly valuable for optimizing processes and workflows.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have been an SAP consultant for over 20 years, specializing in supply chain and order fulfillment.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
I find it to be a highly scalable product. The ease of deploying patches and upgrades from SAP contributes to its scalability, provided that users maintain a clean system. The seamless integration suite facilitates the incorporation of non-SAP applications into the landscape, making it a straightforward solution for deployment and accommodating the continuous addition of new functionalities by SAP. Overall, scalability is a strong point for this product. I have worked with setups having around 200 to 400 end users concurrently using SAP S/4HANA Cloud.
How are customer service and support?
While I haven't needed support frequently, the times I did, the response from the SAP technical team was good. The support provided was helpful and responsive, particularly within the Indian ecosystem. Although instances requiring assistance have been infrequent, the overall experience with SAP's technical support has been positive.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup of SAP S/4HANA Cloud has been relatively smooth in my experience. Compared to earlier on-premise versions of SAP, the process is notably more efficient, particularly in the context of public or private cloud deployments, like SQL HANA on the cloud. I would estimate that the initial deployment is about 40-50% percent more streamlined than it used to be in the past.
What was our ROI?
For SAP S/4HANA Cloud the return on investment is significant.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
While SAP S/4HANA Cloud may be on the higher side price-wise, it is a worthwhile investment.
What other advice do I have?
In my experience of nearly two decades in the ERP field, I highly recommend choosing SAP S/4HANA Cloud. SAP is a reliable and user-friendly ERP, and its integration with the public cloud ensures continuous updates without the hassles of migration or upgrades. It offers ease of deployment, a user-friendly interface, incorporation of good business practices, preconfigured solutions, scalability, and straightforward upgrade and management processes. Overall, I would rate SAP S/4HANA Cloud as an eight out of ten.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
Public Cloud
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Chief Information Officer at Evergrow Group
Highly stable and easy to setup
Pros and Cons
- "Managing the server and taking advantage of the services provided by SAP itself is the most valuable feature."
- "Customer service and support's response time is really long."
What is most valuable?
Managing the server and taking advantage of the services provided by SAP itself is the most valuable feature. They take care of everything.
What needs improvement?
There is room for improvement, especially in the financial and costing parts. In a specific scenario, it becomes complicated when you have different valuation types for materials, and you try to create a costing model. It's a bit challenging to cover all the aspects.
In future releases, there are two scenarios I would like to see addressed: handling different materials and the pricing model.
Another area of improvement is the support provided by this solution. It takes a long time to receive support on certain issues.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have been using this solution for one year. We use the latest version.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
I would rate the stability of this solution a nine out of ten.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
We haven't encountered any scalability challenges. So, I would rate the scalability of this solution an eight out of ten for now, with the possibility of it being higher.
Around 300 users are currently working with this solution in our organization. Over time, we plan to increase the usage of this solution. We need to add more features and incorporate more cloud-based solutions like Aruba for retirement. We are planning improvements in the overall technology sector.
How are customer service and support?
Customer service and support's response time is really long. The ticketing system and the support cycle are very long. It takes a while to get a customer response and they often forward lots of articles and links to read. There isn't a clear, direct support contact.
How would you rate customer service and support?
Neutral
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup is okay. In the implementation phase, a very clear standard of methodology by SAP is activated. It's working very nicely. The whole thing is just for your team or for the users to validate such a high-tech solution.
What about the implementation team?
It was completely deployed with SAP. It's a fully managed cloud solution provided by SAP.
The deployment model we chose is RISE with SAP. It's a comprehensive cloud solution managed by SAP itself.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
The pricing model can be complicated in certain scenarios.
The pricing depends. It depends. For small to medium-sized businesses, it can be expensive. However, for larger organizations like ours, it is acceptable and working well. For small businesses, it might be more challenging due to cost limitations.
The pricing calculations are based on various factors, and for businesses with larger volumes and more complex requirements, the costs can be higher compared to smaller businesses.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
I have used other solutions as well. As an example, I used SAP ECC. I've been using it since 2005, so I have experience with an older version.
What other advice do I have?
I would advise them to ensure they have a well-prepared and capable team to handle the system and its overall utilization. It's important to understand the requirements and risks involved in implementing SAP S/4HANA Cloud. Especially when it comes to financial investment and resource allocation. Proper preparation is crucial.
Overall, I would rate this solution a nine out of ten.
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Senior Technical Specialist at a manufacturing company with 10,001+ employees
High availability, good support, but scalability could improve
Pros and Cons
- "The most valuable feature of SAP S/4HANA Cloud is the uptime it provides from being on the cloud. We do not have to manage the solution. All the infrastructure management is done from their side."
- "The scalability of the solution could improve."
What is most valuable?
The most valuable feature of SAP S/4HANA Cloud is the uptime it provides from being on the cloud. We do not have to manage the solution. All the infrastructure management is done from their side.
What needs improvement?
The scalability of the solution could improve.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have been using SAP S/4HANA Cloud for approximately two years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
The solution has high availability.
I rate the stability of SAP S/4HANA Cloud a seven out of ten.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
I rate the scalability of SAP S/4HANA Cloud a seven out of ten.
How are customer service and support?
The support I have received from SAP S/4HANA Cloud has been good.
I rate the support from SAP S/4HANA Cloud an eight out of ten.
How would you rate customer service and support?
Positive
What other advice do I have?
Those who want to implement this solution need to determine the purpose for which they want to use it. It makes the most sense if they have their entire system based on SAP, they can opt for SAP S/4HANA Cloud. It is a highly advanced application. I would recommend that the team make their decision based on their specific needs and use cases.
I rate SAP S/4HANA Cloud a seven out of ten.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
Public Cloud
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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