We are using this solution for enabling remote workers.
Research Programmer/Analyst at a renewables & environment company with 201-500 employees
A stable, reliable, and scalable solution with good support and very useful VDI feature
Pros and Cons
- "The basic virtual desktop infrastructure (VDI) feature is most valuable. We were lucky to have it in place when the pandemic hit. It is used very heavily now."
- "They can simplify the process of printers. Printers were quite a difficult issue. It took us a long time to iron this issue out. We have the most simple use case where people connect from home to either a virtual machine or their physical desktop. We tried more complex solutions like Machine Creation Services, and they were more overhead than they were worth for us. I found them difficult to work with and confusing, and they were not worth the work for us."
What is our primary use case?
How has it helped my organization?
The primary example right now is the pandemic. People can work remotely without having to use VPNs. We prefer people connecting from home to an institutional system, rather than bringing every random person's home system into our internal network via VPN.
What is most valuable?
The basic virtual desktop infrastructure (VDI) feature is most valuable. We were lucky to have it in place when the pandemic hit. It is used very heavily now.
What needs improvement?
They can simplify the process of printers. Printers were quite a difficult issue. It took us a long time to iron this issue out.
We have the most simple use case where people connect from home to either a virtual machine or their physical desktop. We tried more complex solutions like Machine Creation Services, and they were more overhead than they were worth for us. I found them difficult to work with and confusing, and they were not worth the work for us.
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What do I think about the stability of the solution?
The basic VDI is quite good. It is pretty stable and reliable.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
It is very scalable. We have 400 end users.
How are customer service and support?
I have used them, and in general, I have been very happy.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
Citrix is the only VDI I have used.
How was the initial setup?
It was in place when I was hired. I have been involved with upgrades. Mostly, I have just been filling out the infrastructure and adding more machines. My supervisor was the one who handled the setup.
For its administration, we have two FTEs: myself and a senior systems engineer. There are a couple of other systems administrators who spend a little bit of time working on it. It requires nonstop maintenance every day. It requires four to five hours a day.
What was our ROI?
I'm not involved with the money aspect at all, but from my perspective, we've got a very good ROI. Particularly during the pandemic, it has enabled the institution to keep working. We seamlessly transitioned to an entirely remote workspace.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
We are just now approaching the end of our initial purchase, which was an excellent price for us as an academic institution. We got a very good deal to get us on board. That license is up for renewal in about a year, and we are nervously waiting to see what the pricing will be.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
I know that other vendors were evaluated. I was not part of that. It was before I was hired.
What other advice do I have?
It is a good solution, but it is not always a straightforward solution. Don't underestimate the complexity of a large-scale deployment of infrastructure like this.
I would rate Citrix Workspace an eight out of ten.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
On-premises
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
System Administrator with 501-1,000 employees
If you have all of the network requirements in place, it takes 4-6 hours to have the infrastructure working in a production environment.
What is most valuable?
The stars from this solution are its NetScaler and profile manager.
How has it helped my organization?
This was a breakthrough for us; we reduced our user base from 2000 client machines with Windows OS and all applications installed on all computers and so on, to 40 application servers and 2000 thin clients that don’t need any management. If one has a problem, it’s replaced.
What needs improvement?
Many of the improvements that we have identified for this version already appear in the newer version. For this version, we thought they could improve management access to the applications, organization in the console, and revise server management – these are in newer versions.
For how long have I used the solution?
The solution has been in production for three years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
The solution has been in production for three years with no major problems; zero down time from the solution.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
No scalability issues at all; in the beginning, we had only 20 application servers and 900 users. At this time, we have double the application servers and more than double the number of users. The process was straightforward.
How are customer service and technical support?
The level of support is very good. We have support from a company that is Citrix certified and if we need some core development, such as in the client for end users, Citrix had been wonderful.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
I did not previously use a different solution. This was the solution that we chose for the business need that we had at the time. And from the search conducted at the time, this was the best solution for us.
How was the initial setup?
The solution was straightforward; it’s like, if all of the network requirements have been done, it takes 4-6 hours to have the infrastructure working in a production environment.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
Thera are two types of licensing, per user or per device. This is a point that needs a lot of attention. It varies from case to case. In the infrastructure that I administrate, the (concurrent) per-user license was the best choice.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
At the time, we did not evaluate other options. This was the best solution available for us.
What other advice do I have?
Citrix have online sites that help designing, planning and implementing the solution; use them.
It’s a strong solution for application virtualization. Works on a Windows server base, so compatibility with applications is easier.
Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: My company and Citrix have had some projects together. My company is mainly a telecommunication provider, so we provided the communications and Citrix provided the solution.
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Network Manager at a local government with 51-200 employees
Great VDI solution. Saves organization money
Valuable Features:
I love the extended features of this product. You can easily manage profiles and create desktops in minutes. You can also use your desktops on mobile devices pretty much anywhere. One feature that we use extensively is the WAN optimization. Our data backups are offsite, so moving data and virtual machines could kill our bandwidth, but this feature prevents that. XenDesktop 5 is lightyears ahead of XenDesktop 4. It is much easier to use, and the management interface is intuitive.
Room for Improvement:
Sometimes creating good Active Directory policies can be confusing. Also, there is a lot of work in optimizing desktops so that they don't unnecessarily reduce server performance.
Other Advice:
High initial cost, but over time it allows a much longer desktop refresh cycle. Our organization is using fat terminals instead of buying thin clients. Once those machines break, we can begin replacing with thin clients.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Controller at a translation and localization position with 51-200 employees
Secure, stable, but is expensive
Pros and Cons
- "The most valuable feature is how secure the solution is."
- "The initial setup has room for improvement."
What is our primary use case?
We use the solution for our remote employees to access their information.
How has it helped my organization?
The solution helps us with our ERP.
What is most valuable?
The most valuable feature is how secure the solution is.
What needs improvement?
The cost of the solution is high and has room for improvement.
The initial setup has room for improvement.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have been using the solution for two years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
The solution is stable.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
I give the scalability a nine out of ten.
We have around 40 people using the solution.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup is complex. We used five people for the deployment.
What was our ROI?
We have seen a return on investment.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
The solution is expensive and I give the cost a four out of ten.
What other advice do I have?
I give the solution a seven out of ten.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
Hybrid Cloud
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Solution Architect at a tech services company with 51-200 employees
You can create a filter to find hotfixes for a specific product but after you selected the last version there is no filter for feature packs.
Originally posted at https://www.robbeekmans.net/citrix/citrix-bring-back-rollup-packs/
Citrix: Bring back the Rollup packs
In the past Citrix had several software updates available, these days the options are different. In this short article I explain what has changed and why I think that’s causing issues.
In the old days you had:
- Software
- Hotfixes
- Feature packs
- Rollup packs
The Rollup packs used to contain all the hotfixes of a certain period and guarantee that you installed all the hot fixes and your environment was up-to-date again. The Rollup packs would have a list with all the previous hotfixes it included.
When we fast-forward to today what Citrix is delivering is:
- Software
- Hotfixes
- Feature Packs
As you notice the rollup packs are gone. Hotfixes are no longer combined and as Citrix is also not delivering service packs the Citrix site is loaded with hotfixes.
On the Citrix site you can create a filter to find hotfixes for a specific product but after you selected the last version there is no filter for feature packs. Of course a feature pack is to add new features so no hotfix would be included I assume, but 113 hotfixes available make it an unsolvable puzzle to complete.
Another issue is that there is no filter to filter VDA,Controller, Storefront hotfixes, so you need to look at them all to find interesting ones. You are comparing numbers and reading if they became obsolete or not. Good stuff for a rainy day.
As it seems all hot fixes are needed for none of them have information about which feature pack obsoletes the hotfix. There are no service packs as mentioned before so if you would be a first-timer you go about installing hotfix 001 until you read the last one. I can guarantee your servers will fail if you do. DON’T TRY.
The biggest issue is that there is no documentation, NO documentation what so ever about what hotfix to apply and which one not. Of course there are always hotfixes that are depending on the situation but some are required. Without documentation, each time a software update/feature pack comes out, it’s Russian roulette.
With this being the case you have to apply hotfixes in a production environment without a real way of doing it controlled. If it fails, restore the database and all controllers and hope they get back up. If they don’t, rebuild your environment.
In the old days the database was open and after a restore of the database you could rollback easier. With the 7.x database being a closed database this route is closed. I think it’s a dangerous route Citrix is one and I hope they will return to rollup packs at least. With this at least we know what to install and we know it has been tested in that order at Citrix.
Another thing Citrix should do is to create a tool to add controllers to the database and remove orphan ones from it after a crash. This way if you update and it all goes wrong you have an easy escape route.
Hope someone at Citrix reads this and has the power to change… we applaud it.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Senior Analyst at a financial services firm with 1,001-5,000 employees
It allows us to virtualize desktops and apps, but there were some stability and scalability issues.
Valuable Features
We can virtualize desktops as well as apps.
Improvements to My Organization
We can create desktops per project.
Room for Improvement
I haven't seen any areas for improvement, but I am still learning.
Use of Solution
I've been using it for four years, and I started with Citrix Presentation Server 4.5, and we are migrating it to XenApp 6.5.
Deployment Issues
No issues encountered.
Stability Issues
There were some issues.
Scalability Issues
There were some issues.
Customer Service and Technical Support
Customer Service:
9/10.
Technical Support:9/10.
Other Solutions Considered
We also looked at VMware View.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Architect at a tech company with 10,001+ employees
Consolidated multiple remote access solutions.
What is most valuable?
- Protects web infrastructure
- Ensures business continuity and IT disaster recovery
- Consolidated multiple remote access solutions
- Lowers WAN costs
How has it helped my organization?
A cements customer uses the application for truck shipments from the United States by connecting to the infrastructure in Colombia, as the solution can only be found in that country.
What needs improvement?
We are already evaluating the latest version, 7.9, because Citrix continually updates everything.
For optimal and stable infrastructure products, the people who develop software in-house should provide IT architecture updates.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
All implementations of Citrix have problems with stability; that is normal. This type of infrastructure should be integrated with the many software and hardware components that are currently implemented in the company.
How are customer service and technical support?
Customer Service:
Very good customer service.
Technical Support:Technical support is improving.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
I have worked with VMWare as a hypervisor as the suite is very wide. However, Citrix is less expensive.
How was the initial setup?
All Citrix configurations have a certain amount of complexity.
What about the implementation team?
In-house application deployments are not always easy to integrate, because it is not always compatible with client-server environments.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
For a project to be effective, you must coordinate with Citrix to divide the licenses into stages and not affect costs.
What other advice do I have?
It is important to do a good sizing of users. In addition to Citrix' own online calculator for sizing users (https://www.citrix.com/products/xenapp-xendesktop/savings-calculator.html), I can help with dimensioning the server infrastructure for different virtualisation projects.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Project Assistant at a tech services company with 10,001+ employees
It is easy to make changes with the product. Document control protects our IP.
Valuable Features
The following are the product's most valuable features to me:
- Quick provisioning: It is easy to make changes and see them reflected throughout the organization.
- Document control: Enabling users to copy a company document to their hard drive or flash memory really protects our IP.
Improvements to My Organization
It has accelerated the process in which a new employee is given the necessary tools. We have contacted people in different countries that no longer have to wait for the central team to grant access to their PC in our environment. Assigning them a VDI user allows them to start right away.
Room for Improvement
In general, I'm really pleased with Citrix. What sometimes is an issue is when an application is not compatible with the server's OS, but that is out of Citrix´s hands.
Use of Solution
I have used this solution for one year.
Scalability Issues
I have not encountered any issues with scalability. It actually is a strong point in its favor.
Customer Service and Technical Support
I rate technical support 10/10. They are really interested in understanding your architecture and providing solutions.
Implementation Team
Citrix Mexico helped us understand some issues, but mostly it was developed in-house.
ROI
The ROI in our case is really difficult to quantify. I focus on the non-measurable advantages: IP protection, access from any device, and storage of data in high-availability data centers, no data loss.
Pricing, Setup Cost and Licensing
Unlike MS, many vendors haven’t considered VDI licensing, so this might represent an opportunity to save on licensing costs, because you're actually installing it on only one device (the application server).
Other Advice
Redundancy is a must. After that, ensuring that all your users will access it through a high-speed internet connection will be a key success factor.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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