BiZZdesign HoriZZon vs Camunda comparison

BiZZdesign and Camunda are both solutions in the Business Process Design category. BiZZdesign is ranked #13 with an average rating of 8.1, while Camunda is ranked #2 with an average rating of 8.2. BiZZdesign holds a 2.0% mindshare in BPD, compared to Camunda’s 11.6% mindshare. Additionally, 77% of BiZZdesign users are willing to recommend the solution, compared to 89% of Camunda users who would recommend it.

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Executive SummaryUpdated on Nov 3, 2024

Camunda and BiZZdesign HoriZZon are key players in business process management and enterprise architecture. Camunda has the upper hand due to its active community and ease of building workflows.

Features: Camunda offers lightweight architecture, scalability, and BPMN compliance, making it highly adaptable with robust REST API and open-source accessibility. It allows for easy workflow creation with reusable components. BiZZdesign HoriZZon is strong in enterprise architecture management with flexibility in modeling standards like ArchiMate and strategic planning tools.

Room for Improvement: Camunda could improve its proprietary UI and form creation tools, provide clearer documentation, and enhance support for additional programming languages. BiZZdesign HoriZZon could benefit from better integration capabilities, improved usability of its REST APIs, and more competitive pricing, along with a more intuitive user interface and enhanced technical support.

Ease of Deployment and Customer Service: Camunda supports flexible deployment for both on-premises and cloud environments with open-source community engagement but faces challenges in technical support. In contrast, BiZZdesign HoriZZon is cloud-based and offers dedicated enterprise-level support, known for being responsive and efficient.

Pricing and ROI: Camunda is considered cost-effective, especially for startups using its open-source model, but substantial growth may lead to increased costs due to a per-process pricing model. Users find BiZZdesign HoriZZon expensive, although both products deliver positive ROI by effectively supporting complex processes and modeling.

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IBM Blueworks Live

Mindshare comparison

As of November 2024, in the Business Process Design category, the mindshare of IBM Blueworks Live is 3.5%, up from 3.1% compared to the previous year. The mindshare of BiZZdesign HoriZZon is 2.0%, up from 1.7% compared to the previous year. The mindshare of Camunda is 11.6%, up from 10.2% compared to the previous year. It is calculated based on PeerSpot user engagement data.

Business Process Design

Featured Reviews

AjarMathur

Global Innovation Director at Ernst & Young

Jul 5, 2023

An easily scalable and affordable solution that enables users to document and digitize processes with ease

IBM Blueworks is BPMN 2.0 compliant, but it does not adapt to the overarching BPMN 2.0 concepts. There is only one kind of BPMN 2.0 diagram. It is a process diagram. It doesn't have the concept of separate tools, which other products offer. If I had to do a hardcore BPMN 2.0 modeling, the product would have its own reservations. There were features we could not explore from a BPMN 2.0 perspective. Most of the time, people who are shifting from Microsoft Office tools to a digitized way of working still want the reporting capabilities to be strong. Some tools, like ARIS or Signavio, offer customized solutions from the reporting perspective. If I have documented my whole finance process and want to fetch out a complete SOP report in a very customized manner, IBM Blueworks cannot provide it. We have to rely on some other services. So that's one area in which we always struggled, how to really customize the reporting aspects. I understand that we need to keep the tool a little more asset-light. It's very difficult to keep adding many options, but at least a few BPMN 2.0 options were needed. We have been suggesting to IBM that we should have some way of customizing the reporting. At least we should get a custom way of reporting it into different formats like Excel or putting up a logo for one of the clients so that their SAP can be printed that way.

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Venkat Raju Mallipudi

Group Chief of Enterprise Architecture & S/W Engineering/ CTO at Aventra Group

Mar 26, 2024

Easy to implement, and it's reliable but restrictions in integration capabilities

Integration definitely needs improvement. There are some restrictions. We've seen that it doesn't integrate with everything we might expect. Out of ten products we want to integrate, maybe five or six integrate easily. The other four might face challenges due to lower investment in the products or compatibility issues. It's definitely not easy to achieve seamless integration for any product. We can only test to a certain extent, and issues could arise from either BiZZdesign HoriZZon or the other product. Another point is the cost of licenses. If they were a bit lower, it would be easier for businesses to acquire more licenses... something like an enterprise or bulk license model. Maybe different pricing tiers based on the number of licenses, like significant discounts for orders over one hundred. This could help clients adopt the product.

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Peter Broucke

Enterprise Architect at Proximus

Apr 23, 2024

Support is good (even the basic one), documentation is readily available and matches the need for agile development

Probably one area I look forward to has to do with AI and how Camunda sees the AI angle on workflow. I know they're working on that or at least communicating about it. They already have versions to run on the cloud, so they've tackled that. We're looking at what they will come up with otherwise. As long as the product gets enough traction and evolves, we're happy. With open source, you can monitor what's happening. If the product is being left by many customers, that's a sign. We're also users of Camunda, and you can watch one of our guides' presentations in the States about one of our implementations. Our focus now is on developing service management and DMN APIs for the platform. AI is something we take into consideration, but we'll see what additional benefits it could bring and how to interconnect it with our data or AI engineering.

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Quotes from Members

We asked business professionals to review the solutions they use. Here are some excerpts of what they said:

Pros

"It enables decisions based upon processes that we do model, and ultimately move forward with."

"The licenses are transferrable between different users."

"You can use if from your mobile device or you can be on the desktop. It doesn't matter. You are always connected. It is cloud-based, so you don't have to install anything."

"I like the two-tiered approach, that is, discover and then drill down to the main steps. You can right click and attach risk, policies, and much more. It is a user-friendly solution."

"The solution is stable. All the refreshes run very well."

"The ease of documenting and digitizing the processes was valuable to us."

"We are you using the product as a process mapping tool and as part of a larger process improvement project. We use it with IBM BPM and IBM ODM. We get an automated workflow solution for our customers, an improved workflow automation."

"It has the ability to document in different formats. It is not tied to a specific model. You can look at it from different angles and see the intuitive nature of it. It always generates a valid diagram. You cannot create something that is not BPMN compliant."

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"One of the main advantages of this solution is that they have representation in the Open Group Forum, which means that any changes in ArchiMate are immediately implemented in BiZZdesign."

"The most valuable feature is that it allows you to work with different methods, using the same tool."

"The feature I find most valuable is that the start times and loading times are short. It takes only a few seconds to load the repository and whenever I want to open diagrams, they are there almost immediately."

"The enterprise studio where the modelling happens is valuable."

"The most valuable features of BiZZdesign HoriZZon, from my experience, include its out-of-the-box connectors, such as integration with ServiceNow, Excel, and SQL databases, making data repository management more efficient."

"The initial setup of this solution was very straightforward."

"t's a good tool. My colleagues that are making use of it for application, business processes, or data modeling, are very satisfied with it. They find it easy to use. The graphical representation is simple but therefore efficient, so I know that they are planning a very good commencement on the use of these tools."

"I used BiZZdesign HoriZZon at two organizations. At Manchester Metropolitan University, I used it with a small team for architectural modeling of the student record system. We modeled teams, process objects, and their interactions with applications. We also used it to model a gradual rollout with plateaus showing migration over time. At the BBC, I used it to model software services for publishing content online. I showed key model views to senior stakeholders using Horizon, allowing them to modify and score applications and services."

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"The headless nature of the Camunda Platform is something that has helped us to build our own logic and platforms on it."

"I can use any other tools to create services and the UI, and then use them together with the Camunda BPMN engine."

"We like the idea of working with Cawemo because it enables us to keep on working, remotely or not. It allows us to collaborate between areas. It's easy to model and easy to use"

"I love that Camunda is a very developer-friendly platform, and my customers have evaluated the pricing as reasonable."

"The platform's approach to BPMN modeling is straightforward and versatile, making it easy to adopt and use effectively."

"The most valuable features are the workflow, the task list, and the modeler where we use VPN."

"It has an open BPM"

"We are using the BPMN engine of Camunda; we are not using the user interface. We are using just the engine, the back end of this. For us, it is working quite well."

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Cons

"Sometimes, the tool is automatic, which can complicate it, but once you're accustomed to manipulating it, you can use it very effectively."

"The APIs are great, except the normal business user doesn't know how to create APIs. So it's hard because IBM comes to us as the business users and tell us to create reporting with APIs, except we don't know that, so we have to turn around and flip it to our IT people."

"The ability to create a very structured rule. With the capability that we have right now, Blueworks Live is more process focused. We should be able to enhance it to include a lot more of decisions as well."

"The initial setup is neither straightforward nor complex however you do need to know what you are doing."

"It is BPMN-compliant but the tool needs to be more involved to get into a completely 2.0 oriented tool. It has a few things but it's not the complete BPMN model."

"The font size is really, really small and it's really not useful to print out process models because you cannot read what's written in different boxes. This makes it necessary for people to have access to the tool. We view licenses to see how the printing or output is. It's not very good."

"We would like the ability to add additional custom colors. We would like to color additional items to add notes to the blueprint."

"I would like to see integration with ERP systems. This would help us to simulate the process and see where the problems are. Though IBM Blueworks Live is a good tool for documenting, it is not good for simulating."

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"It lacks capabilities with regard to infrastructure modeling."

"The ability to generate charts and deal with a use case involving Kibana was quite difficult."

"There could be simpler modelling."

"In HoriZZon, there are different matrices. In some of the cases, there is an option to aggregate them, but in other cases, we have not done this, e.g., to see the proper costs. For example, if I have 10 different matrices, then I need to create an aggregate view out of those 10 matrices somewhere. That is where we have been struggling a bit. We have a counterpart from the HoriZZon product team with whom we have bi-weekly discussions. We have suggested to him that this can be improved."

"We tested it, and we had support from BiZZdesign, including patches, but it just didn't do what we wanted."

"One area where BiZZdesign HoriZZon could use some improvement is in its REST APIs."

"The automatic data collection and interface need improvement."

"There is room for improvement in making it more seamless between the modeling and the analysis pieces. Sometimes you have to do some work in the backend to ensure that the HoriZZon portal really gets all of the information the way you want it. They are working on the seamlessness between what they call Enterprise Studio and HoriZZon."

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"Initially, installation was challenging, but recent improvements have made it much easier."

"If they could build some scripts or some configuration to get it up and running in a Docker environment, that would be good. I didn't find anything when on Docker, however, maybe they have something and I didn't see it yet."

"It lacks some preset features and configurations which would make it more plug-and-play for customers."

"The only drawback is the time that it takes to have a complete set of workflows implemented on the Camunda platform."

"Process interfaces between diagrams could be improved."

"Customization and tech stack could be up-to-date."

"Camunda needs to improve its user interface for low-code development and provide more user interface options beyond the basic workflow."

"I would also like a very easy to use form builder."

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Pricing and Cost Advice

"Based on the licenses purchased, from a footprint perspective, you can have as many people as you want. You have multiple different categories of licenses to keep the cost low."

"We are seeing ROI from this solution. The solution has saved us time."

"Price wise, IBM Blueworks Live is in the middle range, and I would give it a five out of ten."

"They have a free subscription model that gives a lot of power to the users."

"Making it less expensive would be good."

"The solution is very, very cost-effective."

"There are editor licenses that are around 50 euros per month, and contributor licenses that are around 30 euros per month."

"The solution is not very expensive."

"In terms of this particular product usage, my clients currently only use per-user licenses."

"The price is reasonable."

"We were customers and bought licenses from them. We used their remote instance initially but upgraded to the on-device version due to lag. For pricing, we paid about 2200 pounds a year per seat for the client installation at an educational rate. I'm not sure about commercial rates. I managed to get a free copy at BBC since it was for evaluation purposes."

"[The] Orbus... pricing model was based on every single functionality having a price. The pricing was comparable but if we wanted to scale, it would have ended up being a lot more expensive. BiZZdesign gave us one price with all of the functionality, and we could scale as much as we needed."

"First and foremost within the scope of improvement for the solution would be the cost. It's very costly..."

"I haven't found any issues with the scalability and licensing parts that are access-related."

"The pricing model is slightly on the high side and could be more competitive for long-term partnerships."

"If one is very cheap and ten is expensive, I rate the product price as a seven out of ten."

"It is less cost-prohibitive than other solutions on the market. This solution was in our price range."

"We use the free version."

"I tried to get some information about buying the license for the solution, but I found it kind of hard to understand the business model."

"Camunda is much cheaper."

"Cheaper licensing and resources than competitors"

"We use Camunda's community edition, which is free."

"We use the open-source version, which can be used at no cost."

"There is a bit of scope for improvement in how the licensing and pricing are done. They are based on the number of processing instances you execute on the cluster... but on the self-hosted mode, the pricing model should be customized."

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Top Industries

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Financial Services Firm

19%

Manufacturing Company

10%

Computer Software Company

10%

Government

Educational Organization

34%

Financial Services Firm

16%

Manufacturing Company

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Financial Services Firm

27%

Computer Software Company

14%

Manufacturing Company

Government

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What is your experience regarding pricing and costs for IBM Blueworks Live?

The solution costs around 600-700 dollars/year, which is quite affordable.

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What needs improvement with IBM Blueworks Live?

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This is one of the best tools, especially because of its collaborative nature. Anyone using it can access previous pr...

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What needs improvement with BiZZdesign HoriZZon?

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Overview

IBM Blueworks Live is a cloud-based business process modeling tool that helps you discover, map and document your processes. It is easy to use, allowing you to learn and perform business process modeling in minutes.

With Blueworks Live you can:

Simplify business process modeling
Quickly build business processes in a straightforward, cloud-based interface designed for both IT and business users.

Improve process efficiency and accuracy
A central process repository eliminates version control and consistency issues by providing users real-time access to process workflows.

Enhance cross-team collaboration
A shared team workspace engages all business process owners, encouraging cross-team participation and continuous process improvement.

Make smarter decisions and optimize outcomes by unifying all your strategy, capabilities, operating models and change portfolios in a single platform.

With all the data about your business in one place you can see the big picture and make properly informed strategic decisions to drive growth. Bizzdesign Horizzon brings together strategy, IT architecture, operating models, data, capabilities, change portfolios and ideas into a single, intuitive collaborative business design platform. Real-time visibility of key metrics and trends allows you to take action more quickly. Accelerating the speed and accuracy of your operations now – and into the future.

Core Platform Capabilities:

Multi-discipline collaboration
Data Integration
Advanced analytics
Models and Roadmaps
Governance & Security
Business Insight Graph

Camunda enables organizations to orchestrate processes across people, systems, and devices to continuously overcome complexity and increase efficiency. A common visual language enables seamless collaboration between business and IT teams to design, automate, and improve end-to-end processes with the required speed, scale, and resilience to remain competitive. Hundreds of enterprises such as Atlassian, ING, and Vodafone orchestrate business-critical processes with Camunda to accelerate digital transformation. To learn more visit camunda.com.

Sample Customers

Cloudsoft Corp. Ltd., Bayer, S¾SS, Essex County Council

T-Mobile, Shell, HSBC, Erasmus University, VIVAT Insurance

24 Hour Fitness, Accruent, AT&T Inc., Atlassian, CSS Insurance, Deutsche Telekom, Generali, Provinzial NordWest Insurance Services, Swisscom AG, U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs, VHV Group, Zalando

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