Camunda vs SAP Signavio Process Manager comparison

Camunda and SAP are both solutions in the Business Process Design category. Camunda is ranked #2 with an average rating of 8.2, while SAP is ranked #6 with an average rating of 7.6. Camunda holds a 11.6% mindshare in BPD, compared to SAP’s 8.9% mindshare. Additionally, 89% of Camunda users are willing to recommend the solution, compared to 89% of SAP users who would recommend it.

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Executive SummaryUpdated on Nov 3, 2024

SAP Signavio Process Manager and Camunda compete in the business process management category. SAP Signavio Process Manager appears to have an edge in user-friendliness and collaboration, while Camunda stands out in flexibility and development integration.

Features: SAP Signavio Process Manager is noted for its collaborative capabilities, user-friendly interface, and robust process modeling. Camunda impresses with its flexibility, developer-oriented features, and open-source model which supports extensive customization and integration with BPMN.

Room for Improvement: SAP Signavio Process Manager needs enhancements in interface design, integration capabilities, and document management. Camunda could improve its user interface, expand its language support, and simplify its documentation and technical aspects to be more accessible beyond developers.

Ease of Deployment and Customer Service: SAP Signavio Process Manager offers straightforward deployment across cloud environments and generally good technical support, though response times vary. Camunda provides versatile deployment options and robust support but may experience performance issues and complex user interfaces.

Pricing and ROI: SAP Signavio Process Manager is a high-value solution with flexible licensing, though potentially costly; ROI benefits include improved process visibility and efficiency. Camunda offers a cost-effective solution, notably with its open-source model, though enterprise licenses can be expensive. ROI is realized through operational savings and efficiency in process automation.

To learn more, read our detailed Camunda vs. SAP Signavio Process Manager Report (Updated: October 2024).

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IBM Blueworks Live

Mindshare comparison

As of November 2024, in the Business Process Design category, the mindshare of IBM Blueworks Live is 3.5%, up from 3.1% compared to the previous year. The mindshare of Camunda is 11.6%, up from 10.2% compared to the previous year. The mindshare of SAP Signavio Process Manager is 8.9%, up from 8.4% compared to the previous year. It is calculated based on PeerSpot user engagement data.

Business Process Design

Featured Reviews

AjarMathur

Global Innovation Director at Ernst & Young

Jul 5, 2023

An easily scalable and affordable solution that enables users to document and digitize processes with ease

IBM Blueworks is BPMN 2.0 compliant, but it does not adapt to the overarching BPMN 2.0 concepts. There is only one kind of BPMN 2.0 diagram. It is a process diagram. It doesn't have the concept of separate tools, which other products offer. If I had to do a hardcore BPMN 2.0 modeling, the product would have its own reservations. There were features we could not explore from a BPMN 2.0 perspective. Most of the time, people who are shifting from Microsoft Office tools to a digitized way of working still want the reporting capabilities to be strong. Some tools, like ARIS or Signavio, offer customized solutions from the reporting perspective. If I have documented my whole finance process and want to fetch out a complete SOP report in a very customized manner, IBM Blueworks cannot provide it. We have to rely on some other services. So that's one area in which we always struggled, how to really customize the reporting aspects. I understand that we need to keep the tool a little more asset-light. It's very difficult to keep adding many options, but at least a few BPMN 2.0 options were needed. We have been suggesting to IBM that we should have some way of customizing the reporting. At least we should get a custom way of reporting it into different formats like Excel or putting up a logo for one of the clients so that their SAP can be printed that way.

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Peter Broucke

Enterprise Architect at Proximus

Apr 23, 2024

Support is good (even the basic one), documentation is readily available and matches the need for agile development

Probably one area I look forward to has to do with AI and how Camunda sees the AI angle on workflow. I know they're working on that or at least communicating about it. They already have versions to run on the cloud, so they've tackled that. We're looking at what they will come up with otherwise. As long as the product gets enough traction and evolves, we're happy. With open source, you can monitor what's happening. If the product is being left by many customers, that's a sign. We're also users of Camunda, and you can watch one of our guides' presentations in the States about one of our implementations. Our focus now is on developing service management and DMN APIs for the platform. AI is something we take into consideration, but we'll see what additional benefits it could bring and how to interconnect it with our data or AI engineering.

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Cirvesh-Daga

Director at T-Systems International GmbH

Feb 15, 2024

Good visual representation for modelling and business process mapping but room for improvement in reporting functionalities

There is room for improvement in analytics. People don't realize it, but the world has changed in the last six to eight months. Customers want to see AI like ChatGPT and ML capabilities in all aspects of business processes and reporting. That would be my recommendation for any OEM in this value chain. Reporting could definitely be improved. I would like to see new features in analytics. I like that they analyze the process and give it to me visually, but I'd like the option to use DPMM instead of just DPC. I'd also like the option to have the process map laid out top to bottom instead of horizontally. Especially a choice between DPMN and EPC as a format. Because there are some people who are very comfortable with the EPC notation. The process is very clearly event-driven. There's an event, there's an action. It's very simple to understand. BPMN, which is the most popular business process notation, generally tends to have multiple frames. Actually, in multiple swimlanes rather. And those frames could each represent a particular kind of entity. Maybe it's an action, maybe it's an actor, maybe it's an event. So there are two different ways of notation. I just like Signavio to give us the ability to choose that notation. Because some companies use BPMN and some use the EPC. And then, if the minute you make that change, I'd like them to give us the flexibility of having an already plotted or vertically plotted option. Moreover, I would like to see improvement in the visual part. It's the piece that needs improvement. Currently, you can plot the diagram horizontally or vertically. However, I'd like the option to change the way the diagram is created, like switching between different notations.

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Quotes from Members

We asked business professionals to review the solutions they use. Here are some excerpts of what they said:

Pros

"I like the two-tiered approach, that is, discover and then drill down to the main steps. You can right click and attach risk, policies, and much more. It is a user-friendly solution."

"The solution is stable. All the refreshes run very well."

"It enables decisions based upon processes that we do model, and ultimately move forward with."

"It has a built-in capability to capture process owners and managers against processes along with other process governance roles."

"In terms of the collaboration features, from the point of discovery, it was useful to go to load up the policies and the rule sets that the client had. And in terms of exploring options and being able to model a variety of different processes, that was incredibly useful as well."

"It has the ability to document in different formats. It is not tied to a specific model. You can look at it from different angles and see the intuitive nature of it. It always generates a valid diagram. You cannot create something that is not BPMN compliant."

"Collaboration is most valuable. You can collaborate online with many people. People can comment, and you can comment back. It is just like a social network, and that, for me, is very good."

"The reporting that we can generate from IBM Blueworks Live has been interesting. We found the KPIs, risks, process modeling, format, and colors, to be very good. We use the EY template and it is interesting to generate reporting in this format."

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"The visibility – the diagrams you create – and then being able to automate based on them are valuable features. It's easy to explain and comprehend, and the integration aspects are valuable."

"The architecture is good because it's a headless workflow. I can create my own frontend, and it's fully API-based."

"The ease with which I can define workflows is most valuable. The latest updates and flexibility that it provides around a task activity are interesting for me."

"We are documenting all of the processors and VPN. Then we are sharing it with our business users."

"The most valuable feature of Camunda Platform is its Microservices architecture, which is easily integrable with APIs."

"The modeler is useful for creating the flow. The way to access the data through their REST API is also valuable. This is what we're using right now."

"The platform's approach to BPMN modeling is straightforward and versatile, making it easy to adopt and use effectively."

"The Camunda BPMN Platform is very flexible and gives several options to deploy and scale it."

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"The features I find most valuable are ease of use and the Collaboration Hub."

"The formatting features are quite good because you can create very complex models, but you can easily clean them up so that they look very nice."

"The visual representation is extremely powerful and easy to use in process modeling and analysis. I can show it to someone who doesn't know business process mapping, and they still understand because it's visually presented. It becomes easy to explain variants and what needs to change."

"The collaboration function in the project views is valuable because people can comment on the processes and we can respond."

"We can use workflow manager to create forms."

"I really like the Collaboration Hub because it's so easy to communicate. And what is really important is that you can use it asynchronously. It doesn't matter if you're working in Italy or in America. You are using the same process and you can speak about the same process."

"The Signavio tool is very easy to use and it is one of the reasons why I like it."

"This functionality ("invite anyone for feedback") has substantially increased visibility over work-in-progress when it comes to process modelling and overall process management and it decreased the time spent on giving and receiving feedback through emails and through sharing screenshots/.ppt files/Visio files etc."

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Cons

"The initial setup is neither straightforward nor complex however you do need to know what you are doing."

"We'd also like to see it be Six Sigma or Lean compatible, a lot of people have asked about that."

"We haven't yet been able to dabble in case management with Blueworks Live, as it is not yet offered with the product."

"The font size is really, really small and it's really not useful to print out process models because you cannot read what's written in different boxes. This makes it necessary for people to have access to the tool. We view licenses to see how the printing or output is. It's not very good."

"The APIs are great, except the normal business user doesn't know how to create APIs. So it's hard because IBM comes to us as the business users and tell us to create reporting with APIs, except we don't know that, so we have to turn around and flip it to our IT people."

"In the solution Signavio, they have a customer journey mapping feature that should be added to IBM Blueworks Live. It's valuable to map or document the customer journey to identify the pains and opportunities in this process."

"Sometimes, the tool is automatic, which can complicate it, but once you're accustomed to manipulating it, you can use it very effectively."

"There should be an option to import from and export to Microsoft Visio. Being able to move files back and forth between Blueworks Live and Visio would be good."

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"The solution could use some enhancements like adding connectors, improving forms and having a mobile app, but everything is an enhancement rather than a flaw."

"Collaborations and process documentation in Camunda Platform are areas with shortcomings that need improvement."

"The product must provide more videos and training materials."

"The cockpit features of the Camunda Platform can be improved to make it a bit more user-friendly, in terms of providing a bit more user experience for non-technical users. There could be some additional documentation added."

"Especially when you use the open-source version, there are issues with performance."

"While it's very scalable, it would be great if auto-scaling capabilities were added to it... one area that really could help out would be to have dynamic resizing of the cluster. Right now, you have to do capacity planning."

"It's costly and not accessible for small enterprises or startups. It would be great if Camunda offered a tier plan for smaller companies."

"The support definitely can be improved. Apart from that, the language should be extendable to other platforms. If I want to write, I'll run a different platform, like Python code on top of it, or COBOL code on top of it, and it should support those languages."

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"I would like to see the inclusion of some document management functionality so that we don't need to integrate with a second solution to accommodate this."

"There is always room for improvement is the capability of integration with other solutions."

"The product's pricing could be improved."

"The free trial needs to have more options for end users, such as including Process Intelligence as a trial version."

"For us, it would help a lot if this solution had floating licenses."

"Signavio Process Manager needs to have an integrated document management system to better work with processes that rely heavily on documents and document flows."

"The tool's navigation could be improved."

"From what I have experienced when I worked with a process team, we would like to work with dummy process diagrams. Right now, I don't know if I would set up a process as a dummy, since it very often gets mixed up with diagrams in production. There are many process diagrams linked to the production environment. I would like to have some kind of sandbox to work with. That would be very good. I don't even know if they already have it, but I would certainly like that."

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Pricing and Cost Advice

"Based on the licenses purchased, from a footprint perspective, you can have as many people as you want. You have multiple different categories of licenses to keep the cost low."

"Making it less expensive would be good."

"Price wise, IBM Blueworks Live is in the middle range, and I would give it a five out of ten."

"The solution is not very expensive."

"The solution is very, very cost-effective."

"We are seeing ROI from this solution. The solution has saved us time."

"There are editor licenses that are around 50 euros per month, and contributor licenses that are around 30 euros per month."

"They have a free subscription model that gives a lot of power to the users."

"While the license isn't budget-friendly, careful consideration and calculated planning for a significant number of licenses can make it more cost-effective."

"We use a community version."

"We're using the open-source version for now."

"Cheaper licensing and resources than competitors"

"The evaluation of my customers on pricing is that it is reasonable."

"Licensing costs are anywhere from $80,000 to $100,000 USD per year."

"We are using the paid edition because there is no separate support and service license yet. We are yet to find a suitable licensing model for Camunda because we only use the engine, and we have implemented our solution around Camunda Cloud. So, we are mainly interested in the support and service, and that's what we mainly use in the paid edition."

"The product's price depends on the number of processes that need to be automated or where the orchestration part needs to be used. The product is affordable for medium and large enterprises."

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"SAP Signavio charges a lot of money."

"The solution is expensive."

"SAP is always more expensive. The per-user cost is hard to calculate and forecast for a big company."

"The solution is quite expensive compared to other vendors."

"My client purchased one editor license and the collaboration hub, which covers up to a hundred people."

"Although Signavio is a feature-rich solution, it is expensive for companies who haven’t reached a certain maturity level in their process management initiatives."

"I think we're spending about $150,000 a year on licensing costs."

"SaaS has no setup cost, just licensing fees."

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Financial Services Firm

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Computer Software Company

10%

Manufacturing Company

10%

Government

Financial Services Firm

27%

Computer Software Company

14%

Manufacturing Company

Government

Manufacturing Company

14%

Financial Services Firm

12%

Computer Software Company

10%

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Questions from the Community

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What is your experience regarding pricing and costs for IBM Blueworks Live?

The solution costs around 600-700 dollars/year, which is quite affordable.

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What needs improvement with IBM Blueworks Live?

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IBM Lombardi Blueprint

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Overview

IBM Blueworks Live is a cloud-based business process modeling tool that helps you discover, map and document your processes. It is easy to use, allowing you to learn and perform business process modeling in minutes.

With Blueworks Live you can:

Simplify business process modeling
Quickly build business processes in a straightforward, cloud-based interface designed for both IT and business users.

Improve process efficiency and accuracy
A central process repository eliminates version control and consistency issues by providing users real-time access to process workflows.

Enhance cross-team collaboration
A shared team workspace engages all business process owners, encouraging cross-team participation and continuous process improvement.

Camunda enables organizations to orchestrate processes across people, systems, and devices to continuously overcome complexity and increase efficiency. A common visual language enables seamless collaboration between business and IT teams to design, automate, and improve end-to-end processes with the required speed, scale, and resilience to remain competitive. Hundreds of enterprises such as Atlassian, ING, and Vodafone orchestrate business-critical processes with Camunda to accelerate digital transformation. To learn more visit camunda.com.

The Signavio portfolio of web-based business transformation solutions helps companies to understand and optimize all of their business processes quickly and at scale, providing instant insights for informed decision-making. Signavio’s intuitive analysis, change management and execution solutions around process excellence include use cases like digital transformation, operational excellence and customer-centricity, placing them at the heart of global organizations.

Over 1 million users in more than 1,500 organizations worldwide rely on Signavio products to make processes part of their company’s DNA. Headquartered in Berlin, Germany, Signavio was founded in 2009 to address the need for a collaborative approach to process management.

Signavio was acquired by SAP in the first quarter of 2021. For more information, visit www.signavio.com

Sample Customers

Cloudsoft Corp. Ltd., Bayer, S¾SS, Essex County Council

24 Hour Fitness, Accruent, AT&T Inc., Atlassian, CSS Insurance, Deutsche Telekom, Generali, Provinzial NordWest Insurance Services, Swisscom AG, U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs, VHV Group, Zalando

DHL, Coca Cola EP, Prudential, Zalando, T-Systems, Jabil, Endress+Hauser, Rakuten

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