Right now, it’s the ability to have full flash based solution with NFS that's most valuable for us. Because Pure Storage does not offer that, only block storage, we need NFS for our services to work.
Operations Manager at OUTSCALE
It’s the same OS as the regular NetApp FAS, so you don’t need to learn anything again. I'd like to see a one-click-and-start feature for the initial setup.
What is most valuable?
How has it helped my organization?
It's improved the speed, obviously, compared to what we are used to, and the latency. It’s the same OS as the regular NetApp FAS, so you don’t need to learn anything again.
All the storage for the VMs are hosted on the platform of individual companies. When you host everything on NetApp, everything needs to grow and shrink for each customer. They don’t know what their customers are using it for, but NetApp allows us to be prepared for anything without knowing anything.
What needs improvement?
I'd like to see a one-click-and-start feature for the initial setup. That means software that just asks you a few questions and takes care of the rest.
For how long have I used the solution?
We're in the process of starting a partnership, and we've been a client for five years.
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What do I think about the stability of the solution?
So far quite good.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
The 8080 is the biggest product at NetApp so you can scale very wide. With this kind of product we have no problems at all.
How are customer service and support?
8/10, the two points missing is the same with every tech support, even if the customer knows very well what the issue is. Tech support still needs to go through the script to arrive at the same conclusion.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
We started with NetApp five years ago and are still with them now. At the point we started, there were no competitors. At that time, it was a really great choice and it still is today.
How was the initial setup?
Cluster mode setup was complex to do the first time, but everything else was straightforward.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
We looked for support, stability, and that we don’t have a vendor who would disappear two years later. That is one reason we didn’t chose Pure Storage, because we don’t know where they will be in a few years. We needed a trusted partner.
What other advice do I have?
It is still cluster mode, and is complex to set up the first time. You have to plan a long time ahead during the initial setup because you don’t know how you will want to scale.
We only looked at NFS because that’s what we need. If you need flash speed and NFS today you only have AFF. If you are looking at SAN, check out all the companies and features to compare them.
Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: We’re starting to partner with them.
Storage Administrator
Filers have a quick response
Pros and Cons
- "The tool's most valuable feature is SVM. I also like the speed and response of the filers."
- "We should be able to manage NetApp AFF as per the desired usage and needs."
What is most valuable?
The tool's most valuable feature is SVM. I also like the speed and response of the filers.
What needs improvement?
We should be able to manage NetApp AFF as per the desired usage and needs.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have been using the product for five years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
NetApp AFF is stable.
How are customer service and support?
NetApp AFF's support is excellent.
How would you rate customer service and support?
Positive
What was our ROI?
We have seen ROI with the product's use.
What other advice do I have?
NetApp AFF has helped us unify and manage the shares under one domain.
The product has helped to reduce operational latency.
The tool has helped us optimize costs with its deduplication, data efficiency, and compression features.
I rate it a nine out of ten.
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An efficient solution that helps with SQL workloads
Pros and Cons
- "The tool's most valuable feature is efficiency."
- "The Bezels need improvement."
What is our primary use case?
We use the solution for IBM and SQL workloads.
What is most valuable?
The tool's most valuable feature is efficiency.
What needs improvement?
The Bezels need improvement.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have been using the product for six years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
NetApp AFF's stability, reliability, availability, and performance are top-notch.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
The solution is scalable.
How are customer service and support?
NetApp AFF's support is good.
How would you rate customer service and support?
Positive
How was the initial setup?
The tool's deployment is easy.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
I am comfortable with the pricing, which is fair compared to others.
What other advice do I have?
We wanted to enhance performance with the solution's implementation.
We were able to simplify the infrastructure and get high performance for our business. It has reduced operational latency.
We have been able to optimize costs by 40 percent.
NetApp AFF has helped us with power saving by reducing the footprint of the data center.
I rate it a nine out of ten.
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Storage Engineer at a tech services company with 10,001+ employees
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Robust hardware, simplistic and deploys easily
Pros and Cons
- "Scalability is excellent. If we need more space, it's a no downtime solution. It's harder to get the funding than it is to get the solution itself."
- "I come tech support with difficulty because I installed NetApp for many years I know what to expect when I call. When I don't get their support tech that I'm expecting and I'm trying to get to the right one, it can get very frustrating for me personally, trying to all-flash push my way into the right person. NetApp has the right people, it's just a matter of getting to them."
What is our primary use case?
The primary use case of this solution is for its speed. We're using the AFF as a cache disk. We have terabytes of data that we have to move quickly off a system. The only way we could do that is with the 40 gig backbone that all-flash array provides and the speed of the disks.
What is most valuable?
Besides for the speed, one of the most valuable features that the AFF gives me is the robust hardware that it has. It's simplistic. It deploys very easily. It's already built from the factory to take advantage of the all-flash array.
I would describe the user experience of the solution as very simplistic. There's a very easy GUI to use, and then when you need to get very, very detailed, you have a robust command line that you could do anything you want with to enhance performance for your solutions. Really what we're using the AFF for is solely for speed. We really need the power of the backbone and the speed of the disks because we have to move so much data.
Setting up and provisioning enterprise applications take minutes. It's just not difficult. We only have to use the GUI, curate the spaces, and go. I've set up entire NetApp systems in a morning.
What needs improvement?
I don't need anything improved. This solution does what I need it to do. I would like to see a cleaner GUI and better help pages. The solution itself doesn't bother, a lot of times it's that after it's installed. I have more issues with the support after the setup. I want it to be more simplistic than it already is and I would love to see the GUI be more simplistic.
For how long have I used the solution?
Still implementing.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
So far the system has been excellent, no complaints. NetApp has always been built as a massively fault-tolerant system. If we have a problem, it just doesn't show it.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
Scalability is excellent. If we need more space it's a no downtime solution. It's harder to get the funding than it is to get the solution itself.
How are customer service and technical support?
I go to tech support with difficulty because I installed NetApp for many years I know what to expect when I call. When I don't get the support tech that I'm expecting and I'm trying to get to the right one, it can get very frustrating for me to push my way to the right person. NetApp has the right people, it's just a matter of getting to them.
How was the initial setup?
I installed NetApp for many, many years. The initial setup of NetApp is very simplistic. Even as an installer, for years upon years, there's a giant poster board that I still use to this day, because that tells me exactly where my cables are supposed to go. It just gets me off the ground quickly and then it's just a matter of following the GUI and knowing what you're doing.
What other advice do I have?
I would rate the product at least an eight. I should give it a nine, if not a ten, but there's always room for improvement.
I would tell someone considering this solution that it's expensive, but it's worth the money. You're going to get the speed and the backbones that you need to accomplish what you do. If you need that kind of speed and that kind of performance, you can get it out of the AFF.
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Sr. SAN Engineer at a religious institution with 1,001-5,000 employees
Very easy to add nodes as needed and move data around within the cluster to balance the workload
What is most valuable?
- Data availability
- Speed
Being able to keep the system up - five nines are better - so I have that system online and have that data available to our customers. And the new flash stuff is really fast.
How has it helped my organization?
The ability to manage very easily, and the replication between sites for backups is also very easy to use. And it stays up.
What needs improvement?
I'm just keeping a really close eye on where NVMe goes and how that's going to affect the next lifecycle of disk and connectivity to the server. So that's what I'm watching for.
One thing they could improve right now is support. Other than that I've been pretty happy.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
Stability for us has been good. We've had a few bumps, a few bugs, but it's based on the new hardware platform.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
Scalability is great. In the cluster, being able to add nodes as needed, and to be able to move data around within the cluster to balance the workload on the nodes is just crazy easy.
How are customer service and technical support?
We use technical support a lot. It's doing better. It's got some hurdles to overcome but they're certainly doing better. I can see them making progress towards what they need to be, but it's a little hard to get through level one.
When we get through level one and get to the back-end guys, we definitely have the right guys.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
It was lifecycle for us. Equipment had aged out so it was time to replace.
How was the initial setup?
Since we already had it running on a fast system, we just added them to the cluster and moved the data, without the customers even knowing. Just seamless.
What other advice do I have?
We use it for Oracle databases and for our virtual environment, and use it for file storage, not block storage.
Our impression of NetApp as a vendor of high performance SAN storage before we purchased it was that we could use them for general purpose storage, didn't really think of them as high-performance, but they're definitely there now. We are likely to consider them for our mission critical storage because we've been running on them now for eight years and they've been running our critical applications, so they've proven it to us.
The most important criteria when selecting a vendor include that they've got to have a pretty good track record. We don't do business with very small companies because we're a pretty big enterprise, fast customer; so they've got to be up in the reviews. We use reviews to tell us all of those quadrants and where they sit, and then we typically do an evaluation and an RFP among the big players in those fields, and then select a choice.
For a colleague who is considering a similar solution, I would tell them to definitely consider what NetApp is doing and how easy it is to use and migrate data.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Manager San Operations at a media company with 10,001+ employees
We do our upgrades in the middle of the day
Pros and Cons
- "The performance is the most valuable feature."
How has it helped my organization?
We have been able to construct a business intelligence environment with nearly instant reporting for our parks, so they can determine where resources need to be put during the middle of a day. So, if there's a rainstorm, they can determine that we need to move people to front gates, we need to move pizzas here, etc. It enables realtime actions to events.
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What is most valuable?
The performance is the most valuable feature.
The primary use cases for our All Flash storage system are primarily server virtualization and data storage for unstructured storage. We use it for both block storage and file storage.
What needs improvement?
The only complaints I ever had was with OnCommand Unified Manager and Performance Manager, and they fixed them in the last version.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
It's pretty reliable. We do our upgrades in the middle of the day, with parks open. If I'm not up at 3:00 in the morning doing an upgrade because of a risk, that's a great thing.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
We haven't had to scale yet. However, we built it so if we do, it's very simple to do. We could probably do it with an onsite staff and not need professional services.
How are customer service and technical support?
We have frequently used tech support. They are one of the best departments at NetApp. Without them, we wouldn't be able to operate the way we do.
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Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
We had a different NetApp solution before. We actually started running the numbers, and due to the age of the systems, we were starting to lose multiple disks at a time. We were going to have a point where we lost data, so it was time to replace them. NetApp was the only vendor that really worked out during the quote process.
How was the initial setup?
I was involved in the initial setup. It was very straightforward. By the end of the process, we had it down to where we were converting an entire park within 48 hours.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
Definitely go with NetApp. You're going to look at other vendors. They may come in at a cheaper price point, but you will pay in the end with management costs and downtime.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
Before purchase All Flash, we had a very high impression of NetApp as a vendor of high performance sound storage. It is still very high as it is the only vendor we would consider for mission critical systems based on our experience at this point.
We looked at some other vendors. They can't provide the single pane of glass management. We're a very thinly-staffed environment, and we need to be able to have a minimum number of people managing the maximum amount of resources. Other vendors don't do that.
For example, we looked at EMC. Their primary problem was the pane of glass problem. They offered three solutions to do what we're already doing with one. Nimble was the other solution which we looked at, and they were protocol limited. They could only do iSCSI, which would have required a significant architecture rebuilt for us.
What other advice do I have?
Most important criteria when selecting a vendor:
- High availability
- Reliability
- Performance.
We have to be able to do the three P's. Get people in the front gate, sell them plush "Bugs Bunnies", and sell them pizzas. If we can't do that, we have a problem.
Previous Solutions
We had a different NetApp solution before. We actually started running the numbers, and due to the age of the systems, we were starting to lose multiple disks at a time. We were going to have a point where we lost data, so it was time to replace them. NetApp was the only vendor that really worked out during the quote process.
Initial Setup
I was involved in the initial setup. It was very straightforward. By the end of the process, we had it down to where we were converting an entire park within 48 hours.
Pricing, Setup Cost and Licensing
Definitely go with NetApp. You're going to look at other vendors. They may come in at a cheaper price point, but you will pay in the end with management costs and downtime.
Other Solutions Considered
Before purchase All Flash, we had a very high impression of NetApp as a vendor of high performance sound storage. It is still very high as it is the only vendor we would consider for mission critical systems based on our experience at this point.
We looked at some other vendors. They can't provide the single pane of glass management. We're a very thinly-staffed environment, and we need to be able to have a minimum number of people managing the maximum amount of resources. Other vendors don't do that.
For example, we looked at EMC. Their primary problem was the pane of glass problem. They offered three solutions to do what we're already doing with one. Nimble was the other solution which we looked at, and they were protocol limited. They could only do iSCSI, which would have required a significant architecture rebuilt for us.
Other Advice
Most important criteria when selecting a vendor:
- High availability
- Reliability
- Performance.
We have to be able to do the three P's. Get people in the front gate, sell them plush "Bugs Bunnies", and sell them pizzas. If we can't do that, we have a problem.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Storage Engineer at a retailer with 1,001-5,000 employees
We just implemented it this year and that dropped the latency by at least four times
Pros and Cons
- "Easier to manage with the clustered system and everything with the newest ONTAP 9."
- "Higher communication: I love the professional services and I love everything that everyone's able to offer us, but I find sometimes we're not aware of all the things that NetApp can do."
How has it helped my organization?
We have our ESB system which was actually running on an older NetApp that was having severe latency. Therefore, we just implemented an All-Flash system this year, which dropped the latency by at least four times, so now it runs without any hiccups or problems.
The company as a whole definitely is far more lenient towards NetApp now that we have the All-Flash array because the major ESB system is now running without any problems. Thus, it's made a big difference in the outlook of NetApp for our company.
What is most valuable?
- Lower latency
- Easier to manage with the clustered system and everything with the newest ONTAP 9.
- Also it has the WAN acceleration between locations, which sped up our replication as well.
What needs improvement?
Higher communication: I love the professional services and I love everything that everyone's able to offer us, but I find sometimes we're not aware of all the things that NetApp can do.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
With the new clustered system, because it has the switches in-between the cluster, it's far more redundant and far less likely to have any kind of outage, even if our network isn't as stable as we'd like it to be.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
We haven't had to scale it yet.
How is customer service and technical support?
I was the main engineer on the implementation. We had professional services that came out and helped us, install it and set it up, to make sure that everything was running properly, which was amazing. The set-up of the clustered system, while complex, was very necessary to ensure redundancy.
After it was set up, it was very straightforward getting moved over; pretty seamless for the most part.
What other advice do I have?
Give NetApp a shot. There's a lot of other really good solutions out there as well. I'm pretty entrenched in NetApp personally because I think they do a great job.
Most important criteria when selecting a vendor: Dependency and redundancy; just ensuring that we're able to stay up constantly. That's the biggest thing. It's because any downtime causes our stores not to be able to take transactions, that's not okay.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
IT Systems Admin at Greater Harris County
The tools it has are helpful if you're not a CLI type of person.
What is most valuable?
Support's good. The product seems reliable. The uptime is good. We haven't had any major failures or anything like that. It runs all of our SAN VMware infrastructure with no problems, really.
The tools that it has, such as OnCommand Manager and so on, they're helpful if you're not a CLI type of person. I actually like the CLI as well. They're both pretty easy to navigate, especially with the cluster mode. You can do the tab completions and everything in CLI now. That helps you to navigate through otherwise long commands.
SnapMirror, all the Snap technology, is pretty cool. You can do SnapMirror, the vault and everything like that.
What needs improvement?
The migration from 7-mode to cluster mode probably could be improved. The migration tool that they use, the copy free transition tool, it's new and it seemed like, while I was trying to get everything prepared, few people really knew much about it at NetApp. I had to make a lot of calls, send out a lot of emails to find out if the current version was going to do what we needed it to do. I was told, no it won't; then I was told, yes it will. I'd say they need to keep working on that migration tool.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have been using NetApp for about three years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
We have not really experienced any downtime to speak of. I did a migration recently from a 7-mode system to a cluster-mode system. While we were doing some of the migrations of some of the live VMs, our older ones started to max out on its processes. It didn't necessarily create downtime. It just kind of messed up our migration a little bit. We had to basically stop, regroup and then schedule it for another weekend. That'd be the closest thing to downtime, but I don't really consider it downtime, necessarily.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
It's definitely scalable, especially with cluster mode. You can just hook in another set of controllers, add disk shelves. It's definitely scalable.
I feel like it's going to meet the organization's needs moving forward. As I've needed to add storage to it, I just grab another shelf and hook it up. It pulls in all the disks; you create your aggregates and everything. As far as if we ever need to add more controllers, you just connect them into the fabric, they come up and you can start sharing files, LUNs and all that stuff. It's definitely scalable.
How is customer service and technical support?
Technical support is really good, knowledgeable, and responsive. Even with the migration I did, they sent out a professional services engineer at no charge to help us complete the migration of going from 7-mode to cluster mode between new hardware as well. We weren't just upgrading one system from 7-mode to cluster mode, we were actually upgrading and migrating to new hardware, so they sent somebody out and he assisted with the whole thing.
The auto support and everything like that is good. When we've had a disc fail, they're calling, they're emailing, they're sending disks out. I get a disk the next day. Support is definitely good.
How was the initial setup?
Initial setup is not too bad. The cluster system I did not too long ago; you just console cable into it. It's got a guided setup on the CLI. After that's complete, you're on the network. You can use your web browser and access the OnCommand Manager application and start configuring SVMs and all that stuff. It's not super difficult. I know there are products out there that are probably easier. I've heard that Nimble Storage is supposed to be one that's really easy to use. On a scale of 1 to 10 in terms of complexity and everything, I'd say NetApp stuff is probably about 7 for me. I've only been in SAN storage and everything for, like I’ve mentioned, about three years. I'm still relatively new to the industry of SAN storage. I'd give it about a 7.
What other advice do I have?
I recommend the product. I don't have a lot of experience with other solutions such as EMC Storage, Nimble, Fujitsu or Hitachi. I've never really messed with any of them so it's hard for me to compare.
I've been doing IT for a while. There some complexity to the NetApp stuff. I know that there are easier solutions out there such as the Nimble one. But overall, the NetApp AFF is a good product. You just need to know what you're doing a little bit or you're going to rely on support and other people. Take the classes. Make yourself familiar with it. That's what I've been doing.
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I believe this process of leaving comments on other people's use cases for choosing one particular vendor vs. another includes many different factors for which one is better. Your reasoning for NetApp being better I dont agree with, however. Upgrades are a nightmare sometimes and before CDOT would typically require downtime scheduled, you have to license every protocol on the units separately and they dont sell them bundled (though this may have changed.) . It was reliable when it was up and had enough free space but once it got lower than 16% they would crawl.