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BMC Compuware Topaz Workbench vs Bonita comparison

 

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Categories and Ranking

BMC Compuware Topaz Workbench
Average Rating
7.2
Number of Reviews
7
Ranking in other categories
Mainframe Application Development (1st)
Bonita
Average Rating
8.2
Reviews Sentiment
7.0
Number of Reviews
27
Ranking in other categories
Business Process Design (11th), Business Process Management (BPM) (13th), Process Automation (12th)
 

Mindshare comparison

BMC Compuware Topaz Workbench and Bonita aren’t in the same category and serve different purposes. BMC Compuware Topaz Workbench is designed for Mainframe Application Development and holds a mindshare of 28.5%, up 26.1% compared to last year.
Bonita, on the other hand, focuses on Business Process Management (BPM), holds 3.8% mindshare, up 3.0% since last year.
Mainframe Application Development
Business Process Management (BPM)
 

Featured Reviews

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File editing/browsing and the debugging features help onboard developers who are new to the mainframe environment
Initially, it was fairly complicated. Topaz leverages the functionality from other products quite a bit, and the setup issues were attributed to those other products: things that we didn't have in place, we didn't have installed, we didn't have configured. I spent a lot of time going through the features of Topaz that were not working, trying to find which product it was that was missing a configuration step or a setup step. That took me the better part of six to eight months to get it all ironed out. It was fairly complicated to get all of the features and functions working. As far as Topaz itself goes, they're just built-in and expected to work, but as I said, those features are really attributed to other products, the setup and configuration that's required for those products. But since we've gone through those initial setups, doing upgrades and doing maintenance has been really straightforward. There has really not been a lot to do in the configuration and setup portions.
Paparao Nadipineni - PeerSpot reviewer
A simple and lightweight college course automation system with third-party integrations
The initial setup is straightforward and can be completed with the environment within an hour. First, take the latest from the git repository and check the git code to the monitor studio and a bar file, a deployable Bonita archive file. Then, take that process to the Bonita server, running at runtime on another server. Finally, deploy and enable it by selecting the proper organization.

Quotes from Members

We asked business professionals to review the solutions they use. Here are some excerpts of what they said:
 

Pros

"From a user perspective, the GUIs make it easier for people to see and interact with files on the mainframe."
"The smart editor helps because it will code-complete for me. I can see code working a lot faster and I'm able to get things coded in less time."
"It's a modernized development portal and helps reduce the learning curve for younger people coming in to work on the platform,"
"It helps our staff work by speeding up their documentation process."
"The most valuable feature of Topaz is Xpediter. It's more flexible than Xpediter through MVS."
"Once we got the configurations and deployment rolled out, it was very stable. I haven't had any major issues with Eclipse or the Topaz Workbench plugins."
"We can develop in parallel today on ISPF, but it's giving us the advantage of the newer interface into the mainframe programming languages that younger programmers can use and are familiar with, rather than using the ISPF green screen."
"The user interface is easy to use."
"Bonita is user-friendly."
"Development of forms and flows."
"I really enjoy using the workflow management."
"Process automation with Bonita BPM is really easy."
"The most valuable features of Bonita are the connectors, detailed documentation, and web applications. The documentation was useful because it is how I learned how to use it."
"This product is very easy-to-use and user-friendly."
"One of the most valuable features is you can create without coding, it is a low code platform."
 

Cons

"It's not as intuitive as it should be. In terms of navigation, there is a large training curve for using it. For a millennial it might be better, if they're used to Eclipse. But coming from a non-Eclipse environment and using Eclipse, though I have experience with Eclipse, it might be cumbersome."
"I'm waiting to see what 19.2 for Topaz looks like, but I have a problem with the JES Explorer right now. It limits you to a certain prefix for job names and there are some groups that have multiple prefixes that they'd like to see all at once in their job names, because of how they work in a group. And they can't see that in the JES Explorer."
"The ability to edit source code that has special characters is limited. The ability to incorporate or convert REXX into macros that are usable under the Topaz software is not there. And the REXX macros that I have developed over 40 years of work are useless, so I have a toolbox I can't use or deploy using the Topaz technology, while I can use it under MVS."
"The area for improvement is related to the testing tools that are available for unit testing or acceptance testing. I know they have some out there that we are not licensed for at this time, but it seems like some of the Eclipse tools that are used for other programming languages, they're all just built-in and they're a little more intuitive to the developers. Making those testing tools as intuitive as possible, and as integrated as possible into the workbench, would be really beneficial."
"It would be nice to have an audit trail to see what mainframe developers are using what."
"It often doesn't play well with other plugins in the environment."
"It would be good if the vendors would work together or at least have some collaboration between them, so they would know what would work and what wouldn't work. Right now, the way things are working, they're relying on the customer to make everything work."
"I'm always looking for improvement in things like the documentation, to make things a little bit easier and simpler to understand, a place where people can go to troubleshoot issues."
"The interface is advanced and quite good, but it could improve."
"It is missing some important features that other products have."
"I would like to improve the product's load balancing."
"The dashboard has limited features."
"The main issue with Bonita is that the workspace crashes sometimes."
"Bonita can improve by offering more flexibility. The developer does not receive the code of the application to modify it. Most of the other solutions I have used allow the developers to change or improve the code that is generated."
"The community edition has limited module functionality. If they could release some of the functionality that's available in the enterprise edition that would be helpful to those learning to use the solution."
"It would be nice to have a wizard to help walk through the development process and create a backbone."
 

Pricing and Cost Advice

"The only thing I would mention related to the licensing and/or the pricing, is that they have some visualization features in there that are licensed by concurrent users. We're starting to trip up on that. We're looking to probably increase the number of concurrent licenses that we have. But those types of licensing strategies, where they license by concurrent users or the number of seats is confusing for some people. They don't understand why it works sometimes and doesn't work other times."
"It has saved our developers time and effort when working on documentation, which is now more readable and fluent."
"In terms of pricing, there isn't an extra charge for the parts of it we use. It comes with the licenses we purchased for other products, so no complaints there. The licensing is built in with the other products that you purchase from Compuware."
"In general, Compuware tools are very competitive."
"We are using the Community Version, which can be used free of charge."
"I believe this is a very good financial choice."
"Price to service ratio with Bonita BPM is good."
"The Enterprise edition is very expensive."
"The product's pricing is acceptable. Pricing is yearly."
"The price of the solution is reasonable."
"Licensing cost for the Enterprise edition comes out to be around 40,000 a year. There is also a Community edition, which is free. Some customers can go for the Community edition, but some of them require the Enterprise edition. Big companies go for the Enterprise edition, which comes with a lot of additional features such as a mobile app."
"You pay an annual fee and can have an unlimited number of processes and users."
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Top Industries

By visitors reading reviews
Financial Services Firm
31%
Insurance Company
19%
Computer Software Company
10%
Healthcare Company
7%
Computer Software Company
17%
Financial Services Firm
13%
Educational Organization
8%
Manufacturing Company
7%
 

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Large Enterprise
Midsize Enterprise
Small Business
 

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