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NetApp vs. XtremIO

Is there another storage platform as feature rich as NetApp FAS?

I think it is fair to say that NetApp FAS running Clustered Data ONTAP is a very feature rich platform – the move to the clustered version of ONTAP has brought many next-generation features including Scale-out and Non-disruptive Operations.

As a benchmark let’s compare FAS to EMC’s solutions – I fully appreciate that EMC has taken a best of breed approach, but my feeling is that for most non-enterprise customers this is not a sustainable strategy – customers want simplicity and ease of use, and you are not going to get that by deploying four different storage platforms to meet your needs.

I have chosen EMC because they are the overall market share leader and they have the broadest set of storage products available – so let’s compare FAS with VNX, VPLEX, XtremIO, Isilon and Data Domain:

NetApp FAS supports All-Disk, Hybrid Flash and All-Flash data stores - that meet the needs of any kind of application workload

The VNX is a very good All-Disk and Hybrid Flash array and XtremIO is a very good All-Flash array, but you need two completely different products to provide the functionality.

NetApp FAS eliminates silos and provides seamless scalability - to address Server Virtualisation, Virtual Desktop, Database and File storage needs in one scale-up and scale-out solution, that can start small and grow large

VNX is optimal for general Server Virtualisation and Databases and XtremIO excels when it comes to large scale Virtual Desktop and ultra-high performance database requirements. The VNX scales-up, but not out, and XtremIO scales-out, but not up.

NetApp FAS has fully unified SAN and NAS storage - to enable consistent management across all protocols and therefore flexibility in their use

VNX has a separate NAS OS which requires its own management (but it is integrated into a single UI along with SAN), XtremIO is SAN only and Isilon is NAS only.

NetApp FAS provides many storage efficiency technologies - including De-duplication, Inline Zero Write Elimination, Compression, Thin-Provisioning, Zero-cost Cloning and High-performance Double Disk Protection

XtremIO is excellent at all of these (just lacks the Double Disk Protection which I believe it will get shortly), neither VNX or Isilon are anywhere near as strong.

NetApp FAS has Flash optimised writes - with a SSD warranty that has no restrictions on the number of drive writes

As expected XtremIO excels whereas VNX and Isilon are not optimised.

NetApp FAS provides 24×7 continuous availability - including proven enterprise RAS, Non-disruptive Operations, and Metrocluster Site Protection

Neither VNX or XtremIO provide the ability to perform Non-Disruptive Operations like FAS. Introducing VPLEX does provide these capabilities along with excellent Metrocluster site protection.

NetApp FAS has integrated data protection - with near instant creation of snapshot based backups and automated offsite replication

Neither the VNX or XtremIO have these capabilities, to a lesser extent Isilon comes close, but it is limited to the workloads it supports (i.e. it cannot be used for Server or Desktop Virtualisation). EMC’s data protection solutions are typically built using their Data Domain De-duplication appliances and conventional backup software (interestingly they have started to integrate Data Domain directly with the replication engine within the new VMAX3 – no doubt a sign of things to come).

NetApp FAS is Public Cloud integrated - to support hybrid Disaster Recovery and Cloud Bursting

Currently there is no VNX equivalent of Cloud ONTAP for AWS, but this is expected sometime in 2015.

NetApp FAS is designed for VMware vSphere - with support for Virtual Volumes, VAAI, Site Recovery Manager and vCenter management

As expected VNX and XtremIO have support for all the relevant integrations with vSphere. Where FAS has an advantage is that NetApp have already announced support for Virtual Volumes so existing hardware will be able to take advantage of Virtual Volumes – not sure we will be able to say the same about VNX.

NetApp FAS is designed for VMware Horizon View - with support for high-performance hardware accelerated Full Clones (using VAAI) and Linked Clones (using VCAI), and up to 160,000 IOPS at 80% Writes per array

As expected for large scale Virtual Desktop projects XtremIO excels and the only area where it is lacking is that it doesn’t support VCAI as it requires NFS.

NetApp FAS is designed for Microsoft Hyper-V - with support for SMB 3.0 Continuous Availability Shares and Offloaded Data Transfer (ODX)

VNX has good support, whereas XtremIO lacks support for both SMB 3.0 and ODX.

I am confident that you could substitute EMC with any other storage vendor and you would end up with the same result – no single storage platform is anywhere near as feature rich as FAS.

So is FAS and Clustered Data ONTAP perfect?Absolutely not, there are undoubtedly areas whereby the traditional SAN arrays still have advantages (mostly around active/active controller architectures and metrocluster capabilities).

So what else would I like to see from FAS?

  • Sharing of drives across controllers – we are already starting to see this with the new drive and Flash Pools partitioning features
  • Detaching of the drives from the controllers – so that the failure of an HA pair within a cluster does not result in downtime
  • MetroCluster
    • Granular fail over - so volumes or even Virtual Volumes can be “moved” between sites
    • IP replication - either using FCIP bridges or native IP connectivity
    • Active/Active - so volumes/LUNs can be active on both sides of the cluster
  • Erasure coding – to eliminate idle spares and enable rapid drive rebuilds
  • Encryption – provided by the controllers rather than drives
  • Advanced QoS – to enable setting of Service Level Objectives rather than just limits
  • Integrated file archiving – to move older files to secondary storage or the cloud

Conclusion

I truly believe that there is no single storage platform that comes close to matching the range of capabilities of a NetApp FAS, but what do you think?

Do you work for a vendor or are you an end-user of a competitive storage platform? If you are let me know what you think – what are the downsides of the FAS architecture from your point of view?

Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: We are Partners with NetApp.
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it_user264375Emergency Medicine Resident at King Saud University
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reviewer2304789 - PeerSpot reviewer
Storage Administrator
Real User
Filers have a quick response
Pros and Cons
  • "The tool's most valuable feature is SVM. I also like the speed and response of the filers."
  • "We should be able to manage NetApp AFF as per the desired usage and needs."

What is most valuable?

The tool's most valuable feature is SVM. I also like the speed and response of the filers. 

What needs improvement?

We should be able to manage NetApp AFF as per the desired usage and needs. 

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using the product for five years. 

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

NetApp AFF is stable. 

How are customer service and support?

NetApp AFF's support is excellent. 

How would you rate customer service and support?

Positive

What was our ROI?

We have seen ROI with the product's use. 

What other advice do I have?

NetApp AFF has helped us unify and manage the shares under one domain. 

The product has helped to reduce operational latency. 

The tool has helped us optimize costs with its deduplication, data efficiency, and compression features. 

I rate it a nine out of ten. 

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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Comes with data protection and has snapshot technology for backup
Pros and Cons
  • "The most valuable feature of the solution is data protection and snapshot technology for backup."
  • "NetApp AFF needs to focus more on block storage. It has to focus on high-end, performance-driven applications."

What is most valuable?

The most valuable feature of the solution is data protection and snapshot technology for backup. 

What needs improvement?

NetApp AFF needs to focus more on block storage. It has to focus on high-end, performance-driven applications. 

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been working with the solution for more than five years. 

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

NetApp AFF is scalable. 

How are customer service and support?

NetApp AFF has good technical support. 

How would you rate customer service and support?

Positive

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We chose NetApp AFF because it is flexible and reliable. It offers a unified storage system. 

How was the initial setup?

NetApp AFF's deployment is straightforward. You can deploy it within half a day. 

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

NetApp AFF's pricing is competitive. It is not expensive or cheap. The tool's pricing is based on configurations and can cost around 150-160 dollars for 70 TB of storage. 

What other advice do I have?

We recommend the solution to small, mid, and enterprise companies. I rate it an eight out of ten. 

Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: Partner
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it_user750702 - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior It Solutions Analyst at a manufacturing company with 10,001+ employees
Real User
Gives us high performance, improvement in IOPS, reduced latency, and it's easy to manage

What is most valuable?

  • High performance
  • Good improvement in IOPS
  • Less latency
  • Easy to manage

How has it helped my organization?

Functionally it did improve our company. It improved internal customer performance.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

It's good.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

Scalability wise, it is also good, although we have not had to scale yet.

How are customer service and technical support?

It is good. I rate it nine out of 10.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We have other storage as well but we have been using NetApp for a long time.

We have a weekly call with the NetApp representative, we have been getting that from them. From them we understood that we needed to get a new solution.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

EMC. We chose NetApp over EMC because support is good.

What other advice do I have?

Our primary use case is databases using NAS file storage. Our impression of NetApp as a vendor of high performance SAN storage before the purchase was that it's good. Now that we have it, we still think it's good. We are more likely to consider NetApp for mission critical storage systems because of the improvement in the performance.

In terms of selecting a vendor, in the case of PoC, we look for more support and faster responses.

I would advise a colleague researching similar products that this is the preferred solution.

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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it_user750639 - PeerSpot reviewer
Enterprise Storage Engineer at Providance Health Services
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Tech support is good, smart, and responsive

What is most valuable?

While our VDI people are storing user profiles, we make good use of single name space. With application driven ride, VDI has driven us to use NetApp because they needed a single name space and there's just no vendor on the market that can do single name space with All Flash.

How has it helped my organization?

In the single name space, the profile pad need not be changed for various users. All the users of VDI can be pointed towards one profile source.

Our primary use case for All Flash is we put VDI on it and we put our Providence Health Systems work on Epic. Epic is our tier one app. We put all the NAS needs for the Epic app on All Flash, and we also put our user home directories on All Flash.

What needs improvement?

We would like to see permission repair technology built into ONTAP. We have it in EMC Isilon and we have been asking our accounting to take it to the engineering team. We want a job repair technology in EMC Isilon, in that app as well, so that app can refer to it and build on it.

Also, the product could be made cheaper.

For how long have I used the solution?

We have been using it for eight months.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The stability is good.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

It is certainly scalable.

How are customer service and technical support?

We used tech support. They are good, smart, and responsive.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

No, we didn't use a previous solution. We came to AAF 300 All Flash because we were refreshing all of our NetApp applications.

How was the initial setup?

I am the lead for all NetApp installs. Every time we had a good installer coming onsite, so we make it easy for them and they make it easy for us.

What other advice do I have?

We use All Flash for block and file storage.

We have been a NetApp shop for a while, even before AAF 300. Thus, our impression of NetApp has a long history. It's been good to us in providing the support and giving us the right solutions when we need them. Therefore, we have a good impression of NetApp.

I recommend NetApp. If someone is looking at a similar solution, I would give them the advice, "Go for NetApp."

When it comes to NAS services, they have better operating systems compared to anyone, even other vendors would have it, but NetApp has a long history of being in the market and large customer base. Therefore, they might have gone through various problems and solutions compared to any new vendors who are out there. Experience matters.

Most important criteria when selecting a vendor:

  • How robust the technology is
  • How reliable the vendor is
  • How experienced they are.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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Systems Administrator at a tech company with 10,001+ employees
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The benefits are automatic; the power consumption is very low and the performance is very high
Pros and Cons
  • "The scale up version of it is the most valuable feature. You can go to 24 nodes, which is very cool."
  • "Going forward, I would like more performance analytics on it, on the area itself, instead of using some other tool."

How has it helped my organization?

The benefits are automatic; the power consumption is very low with the All Flash and the performance is very high. So, it helped us to better serve our customers to do the VMware data source.

What is most valuable?

The scale up version of it is the most valuable feature. You can go to 24 nodes, which is very cool. We are primarily using VMware environment. We use it for VMware data source for our hosting customers. We have 32 petabytes of data on NetApp's storage, so we definitely use it for primary storage.

What needs improvement?

Going forward, I would like more performance analytics on it, on the area itself, instead of using some other tool.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

It's very stable.

We have a 9.1 operating system on it, and it's very stable. We did an upgrade online, and we had no issues. We did a failover testing, and nothing. It's solid.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

The scalability is good.

How are customer service and technical support?

I use it for small issues, like how to configure using multiple VLANs. It was pretty easy to set up, and the technical support were very good.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We decided, as a company, to not buy any more disk storage for our primary customers, and that's the reason we needed All Flash. NetApp was a perfect fit because we could grow as we needed and it scales out the architecture works for us. We were looking for a high-performance, small, low footprint block rate, and NetApp fits in right there.

How was the initial setup?

Very straightforward. NetApp already does all the installation for us. They just come in and set the IPs, etc.

What other advice do I have?

It's a pretty solid solution. If you're looking for a block solution, or file solution, on flash, you definitely have to look at it.

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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Systems Mgr at a transportation company with 10,001+ employees
Real User
Using Snapshot, we are able to replicate/clone the production environments. Some workload balancing activities across the nodes are not transparent.

What is most valuable?

Two functions are valuable for us:

  • Snapshot: We are able to replicate/clone production environments to test the SW version up (e.g. the Oracle Financials upgrades).
  • MetroCluster: Our disaster recovery is based on two active-active sites. The MetroCluster feature allowed us to continue our operations (without business interruption) when we stopped one of the sites.

Learn about the benefits of NVMe, NVME-oF and SCM. Read New Frontiers in Solid-State Storage.

What needs improvement?

This solution is based on the scale-out concept. Some workload balancing activities across the nodes are not transparent (requires server downtime).

When moving volumes between controllers, you should always use the optimized path.

FCP is doing this automatically, but NFS unfortunately not.

So when moving NFS volumes between controllers, you will not move the load to the other controller.

To do this, you need to remount the volume to the correct LIF.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

We did encounter stability issues but nothing that interrupted the solution; more background type of problems.

Learn about the benefits of NVMe, NVME-oF and SCM. Read New Frontiers in Solid-State Storage.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

We did encounter scalability issues, the solution is not delivering the requested performance (I/O response time for the requested IOPS).

How are customer service and technical support?

The technical support level is between poor to medium in our geography.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

Previously, we were using the older generation of the NetApp MetroCluster (6240 unit). We switched as this unit was not performant enough, i.e., it had a high maintenance cost for the performance delivered.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

Negotiate everything, i.e., including the price for the future capacity upgrades as part of the deal.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

We looked at EMC, HPE, and Fujitsu.

What other advice do I have?

You need to understand the limitations of the scale-out architecture.

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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it_user472458 - PeerSpot reviewer
Solutions Architect at a non-profit with 1,001-5,000 employees
Real User
It's easier to provision applications for VMware, VDI, Oracle, and SQL. Supports multiple protocols.

What is most valuable?

  • CIFS (stable solution)
  • Ability to support multiple protocols

How has it helped my organization?

  • SVM application provisioning: makes it easier to provision applications for VMware, VDI, Oracle, and SQL.
  • All flash: low latency and higher IOPS since it’s all flash.

What needs improvement?

Firmware upgrades consistently continue to be the weak spot in all NetApp products.

For how long have I used the solution?

For 8 months now.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

I have not yet had any stability issues.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

I have not had any issues with scalability.

How is customer service and technical support?

Customer Service:

On a scale of 1-5, I would rate them 3.5.

Technical Support:

On a scale of 1-5, I would rate them 3.5.

How was the initial setup?

Initial setup was complex. In spite of the new CDOT 9, NetApp setup is still complex. It requires configuration of all the network interfaces, SVMs, which can become a little overwhelming.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

NetApp is trying to stay in competition and are offering competitive prices to existing/new consumers. The key is being aggressive.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

We looked at Pure Storage and Nimble.

What other advice do I have?

Be prepared for a lot of configuration hiccups before being operational.

Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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