I have used SAP HCM with Oracle Database for about 13 years and SAP HCM with HANA database for about a year.
Head HRM Technology at a manufacturing company with 10,001+ employees
Customers can create custom infotypes to store any custom data points
Pros and Cons
- "We have managed to consolidate our payroll for all India operations on this platform."
- "Customers can create custom infotypes to store any custom data points."
- "System usability is a challenge."
- "It needs a lot of end user training as it is not intuitive at all."
What is our primary use case?
How has it helped my organization?
We have managed to consolidate our payroll for all India operations on this platform.
What is most valuable?
- Core HR data management for employee and organizational data is very stable and flexible.
- Customers can create custom infotypes to store any custom data points.
- Time/payroll management is a very stable, sturdy product.
What needs improvement?
- System usability is a challenge.
- It needs a lot of end user training as it is not intuitive at all.
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For how long have I used the solution?
More than five years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
No stability issues.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
No scalability issues.
How are customer service and support?
SAP technical support is good. However, for HANA, they still have to go a long way to go.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
We did not use a previous solution.
What about the implementation team?
For implementation, SAP offers little support unless you buy SAP Safeguarding from SAP Consulting.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
Licensing is pretty complex. SAP does not have a straight forward way of licensing, and it differs from client to client.
The terms on which you buy licenses might change due to the way they license in a particular product.
Be careful and guard against future changes in licensing.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
We evaluated PeopleSoft.
What other advice do I have?
Choose a good implementation partner. 80% of the project's success depends on the skill level of the implementation partner.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Operations director at FeatherThread LLP
Helps maintain employee records, payroll and timesheet and includes SAP SuccessFactors
Pros and Cons
- "The tool's best feature is SAP SuccessFactors."
- "SAP HCM needs to improve its UI."
What is our primary use case?
SAP HCM helps maintain employee records, payroll, timesheet management, etc.
What is most valuable?
The tool's best feature is SAP SuccessFactors.
What needs improvement?
SAP HCM needs to improve its UI.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have been working with the product for seven to eight years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
Oracle HCM is stable; I rate it a seven out of ten.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
The solution is scalable, and my company has more than 40,000 users for it.
How are customer service and support?
We inform our in-house technical team about the issues.
How would you rate customer service and support?
Positive
What other advice do I have?
SAP HCM is easy to maintain, and I rate it a nine out of ten.
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SAP Delivery Manager at Tec Grato
A feature-dense enterprise-level solution that you can modify to suit your needs
Pros and Cons
- "We have features such as ABKRS based on the client's requirement, tariff and TMSTA, and so on."
- "There are already success factors for the cloud solution which cannot be integrated into S/4 HANA."
What is our primary use case?
We have different structures dealing with the enterprise, starting with enterprise structure, employee structure, payroll structure, and other structures in SAP Human Capital Management. We make these structures in SAP HCM and deal with organizational management and other information related to personnel administration, management, payroll, and personal actions. HR deals with different master and permanent data aspects. The administration aspects, the different functionalities, and the processing features in the personnel administration are necessary to define default values and business authorizations like decision-making. Other use cases include personnel calculation rules and different schemas, sub-schemas, rules, recruitment, e-recruitment, and time management, including positive and negative time management. SAP HCM is also important for payroll processes, including country-specific payroll. Training for event management is also a sub-module to prepare candidates for training events and event management, booking events at the company's internal cost. SAP HCM also covers employee and manager services. Along with that, integration interfaces, and human resources are reporting.
What is most valuable?
We have features such as ABKRS based on the client's requirement, tariff and TMSTA, and so on.
What needs improvement?
What cannot be facilitated through the product's standard functions can be done through development. Success factors also come into the picture in the new cloud management aspect and integrations. For instance, S/4HANA. The two aspects are development, with reports, interfaces, conversion, enhancement, prompts, and smart forms. The reporting aspect covers employee and manager self-service, anything the employee can do. Then there are already success factors for the cloud solution which cannot be integrated into S/4 HANA.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have worked with SAP HCM for about ten years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
The solution is stable.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
The solution has chain management, so it is scalable and climbing up. Some of my clients are smaller and medium-sized businesses, while others are enterprises.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup is not difficult. The time we take to deploy the solution depends purely on the project's scope, size, and budget. On average, it could take one to two years, but sometimes it can take longer or less time.
What was our ROI?
I have seen a return on investment. In the long run, I need to check the depreciation. After calculating the depreciation on the cost of this solution, I can count the return on investment. Based on what the client invested in the project, SAP HCM is stretching as per their business process while minimizing their wastage. And as per the decision-making, clients can save a lot of revenue.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
The solution is cheap. Suppose a client can afford to purchase their software and hardware on-premises, even if it's expensive. In that case, that's okay because they can afford their agenda, which is an on-premises installation for security. And some clients who cannot afford the same, but allocate it to a business expansion, can choose either a private cloud or public cloud, sometimes operating in a hybrid mode. Some clients can pay a subscription if they want to go for a certain route.
What other advice do I have?
Now and then, SAP changes as per the requirement. Earlier, it was ECC, and some clients still run on databases with limited aspect software. In 2012, they came up with S/4HANA. I'm comfortable with the previous one and the new one, S/4HANA, including on-prem and on the cloud.
I rate the solution a ten out of ten because clients have received a return on investment.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
Hybrid Cloud
Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: partner
IT Infrastructure Supervisor at Gieco
Challenges in deployment, particularly related to configuration and implementation
Pros and Cons
- "It is a pretty stable solution."
- "It was difficult to deploy. There were challenges regarding configurations and implementation. So, we had a lot of issues."
How has it helped my organization?
It didn't go live with it.
Sap HCM is not a flexible solution to meet our requirements.
What is most valuable?
What needs improvement?
There are several issues with GuI, and it's not easy to use. Additionally, it requires a significant amount of configuration, and we haven't been able to find anyone who can meet our specific data configuration needs. But the major issue it's a really old fashion app. We are in 2023, there is no need to use an app that looks like this.
For how long have I used the solution?
It's been around two years now. We already had SAP in our company, and we already were working with a partner to finalize all the configurations, but it didn't succeed. So it's not working yet.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
It is a pretty stable solution.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
It is a scalable solution. For other modules, it's around 100 to 200 users in my company. We had 12 administrators.
How are customer service and support?
The customer service and support team is okay for all modules. But for HCM, we couldn't find a dedicated consultant to assist us.
How would you rate customer service and support?
Negative
How was the initial setup?
It was difficult to deploy. However, it has already been deployed, but there were challenges regarding configurations and implementation. So, we had a lot of issues.
The setup took around one year. Because configuration included our requirements and making the rules, ensuring compliance with insurance rules and governance tools. It's like insurance policies in Egypt or something similar that may affect the SAP HCM system.
What about the implementation team?
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
The pricing is really high. Compared to Odoo, it's very high. However, if you already have the other modules, it's okay. But SAP will cost you a lot of money.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
We are looking to switch to Odoo. It seems easy to use. It is very, very easy to use and configure according to our requirements.
What other advice do I have?
I don't recommend implementing SAP HCM. It's not good at all. Overall, I would rate the solution a three out of ten. It is primarily due to complexity, configuration, and pricing.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
On-premises
If public cloud, private cloud, or hybrid cloud, which cloud provider do you use?
Other
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Team Leader at Fauji Meat Limited
A powerful, user-friendly tool for maintaining company data
Pros and Cons
- "When you maintain your data in SAP, you can generate any kind of HR report with one click."
- "It would be very helpful for our company if a new version was released with the ability to contain all of the things that we have newly introduced in our company."
What is our primary use case?
We begin using this solution when we hire an employee. We input all of their family details, bank details, and the wage we decide on during the interview. We enter all of their initial information in SAP, then we generate their new employee number.
What is most valuable?
I think that it's a very powerful tool for maintaining your company data. When you maintain your data in SAP, you can generate any kind of HR report with one click.
What needs improvement?
We input all of our workflows into SAP to make our work environment better. All of our new projects and new policies will be implemented in SAP. It would be very helpful for our company if a new version was released with the ability to contain all of the things that we have newly introduced in our company.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have been using this solution for 12-13 years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
This solution is stable.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
600-700 people use this solution in our company. The supply chain management department, internal audit department, IT, and the administration department use SAP HCM.
How are customer service and support?
I would rate the technical support as a five out of five. With the support team, you can easily satisfy your clients.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
We have an annual license for this solution, and the price depends on the number of users.
What other advice do I have?
My company chose this solution because it is very important and famous all over the world, and its reporting tool is very good. I would recommend it, and my advice to someone considering this solution is that it is a very user-friendly software. I would rate it as a ten out of ten.
SAP HCM has totally integrated our work. We left a manual environment, and much of our work is now automated with this solution.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
Public Cloud
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Offers superior functionalities, and has an overall superior package
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
The system has demonstrated high stability over the years, with no significant downsizing periods.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
The cost is contingent on scalability. If you're seeking consultant-level insight, it involves a comprehensive HCM package rather than just managing at the employee level. Scalability is crucial, with consultants providing the necessary resources, expertise, and training to elevate teams efficiently—at a lower or higher level. In my company, which uses SAP HCL, maintenance involves overseeing four users at my level, including three team members, one of whom is a two-year female employee. Additionally, there's one consultant and two employees at the certificate level. Looking at the entire organization, I manage maintenance for sixteen thousand users.
How are customer service and support?
Technical support through Telstra is available for SAP ERP, particularly for creating custom objects in SAP HCM when standard functionality falls short. The responsiveness of technical support depends on the complexity of the task. Simple workflows may have a quick resolution, while intricate processes, like complex triangular workflows, may take longer. The resolution time is influenced by both task complexity and technical team availability. In SAP implementation, a well-defined process can result in swift technical support integration, but more complex processes, such as those in SAP SCM, SAP M, and SAP Finance, may require more extensive collaboration with the technical team.
How would you rate customer service and support?
Positive
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
Our organization transitioned from Oracle TIN to SAP HCM due to SAP's superiority in providing comprehensive business solutions. While I focused on web development using Java and C++, the comparison revealed that Oracle lacked integration with our department. SAP's ERP system, serving as the main system for the entire organization, offered superior integration across departments compared to Oracle.
The decision to switch was driven by SAP's cohesive solutions, superior functionalities, and overall package, addressing the limitations we faced with Oracle's inability to seamlessly connect different facets of our operations. The move to SAP HCM aligned better with our organization's objectives for an integrated and comprehensive ERP system.
What about the implementation team?
The deployment time for SAP largely relies on your preferences. If you aim for a quick deployment, that's achievable, but if you prefer a more gradual approach, that's also possible. Typically, it depends on four to five people and the number of modules in use within the organization, usually ranging from five modules. In such cases, a minimum of eight to nine people may be involved in the deployment pro
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
The cost varies depending on the specific requirements. It is adaptable to the needs of the user – a higher package for extensive requirements and a lower package for more modest needs.
What other advice do I have?
Overall, I would rate it seven out of ten.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Management Executive at Pak-Arab Refinery Ltd.
Provides a stable and efficient ERP system
Pros and Cons
- "It has the best data management features."
- "Its reporting feature could have customization options."
What is our primary use case?
We use the solution as an ERP system for enterprise business.
What is most valuable?
The solution has the best customization features. It provides good data management features and integration with enterprise resource management platforms.
What needs improvement?
The solution's reporting feature could have customization options. Also, its dashboard features need to be better compared to Oracle.
For how long have I used the solution?
We have been using the solution for seven years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
The solution is stable.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
The solution is challenging to scale compared to Oracle, which is easier to understand. Our organization has over 100 solutions users from the material management, finance, and networking departments.
How are customer service and support?
We have our IT support department for technical queries. So, we never directly contact the solution's technical support team.
How was the initial setup?
The solution's initial setup process is time-consuming. Also, we need to hire resources for customized reports apart from maintenance.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
The solution is more expensive than Oracle.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
In comparison with the solution, Oracle is more cost-effective. Also, it has a more straightforward process for customizing reports based on our requirements. We can create reports with customized designs using it.
What other advice do I have?
I recommend the solution to others and rate it an eight out of ten. It provides a complete ERP system.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Director & CHRO at Tecple Innoventive Solutions Pvt Ltd
Easy to install, scales well, reliable, and has interesting features for learning
Pros and Cons
- "They have some interesting features in the learning space."
- "The extensibility of the integration could be improved."
What is our primary use case?
We use this solution for all of the organization's HR needs.
What is most valuable?
Most of it is similar to Oracle HCM.
They have some interesting features in the learning space.
What needs improvement?
The extensibility that SuccessFactors talks about is when we are required to create an add-on solution or a small application, that could be developed within the ecosystem of the Oracle HCM itself, and then integrate it easily.
This is a feature that we can look forward to seeing in SAP as well.
The extensibility of the integration could be improved.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have a lot of experience with SAP. I have been working with SAP for nine years.
We are using the latest version.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
I have no issues with the stability of SAP HCM.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
SAP HCM is a scalable product.
We have approximately 32,000 users in our organization who use this solution.
How are customer service and technical support?
Technical support is a strong team.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup was straightforward. It was good.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
Licensing fees are paid yearly.
What other advice do I have?
I would rate SAP HCM an eight out of ten.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
Public Cloud
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
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