One main use case is to see change in price, why the change in price is happening? What are the plans associated with it? What can be done in the action engine? You have smart price detection. Based upon the smart price detection, it'll give you three options. Either you update the price in the master data, or you notify the procurement user accordingly.
Senior Manager at a tech services company with 201-500 employees
Enables customers to get the digital information directly but the data connection trend could use improvement
Pros and Cons
- "We used to draw errors to be processed manually, and now you can get the digital information directly with the help of Celonis."
- "The technical support is very bad."
What is our primary use case?
What is most valuable?
We used to draw errors to be processed manually, and now you can actually get the digital information directly with the help of Celonis. That is a valuable feature that customers appreciate, as well as the throughput time, the time between two activities. Earlier, it was difficult for them to actually find out what was the time between two activities. But through Celonis, they can find that out.
What needs improvement?
A major room for improvement would be on the data connection trend, because we were trying to do a POC with a client that had multiple data systems, multiple ERPs. When we contact Celonis, we either get a very generic response or a very delayed response. Celonis will ask for some 86 different tables, as an example. They ask us to get the data for 86 different tables. When I'm doing a proof of concept, if I tell the client that I need 86 different tables, the client going to refuse and not even interact with me. There should be minimum tables, the eight or ten tables which you can use to do at least a minimum proof of concept.
For how long have I used the solution?
I've been working with the solution for eight months.
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What do I think about the stability of the solution?
The stability of the solution is good.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
The scalability of the solution is good.
How are customer service and support?
The technical support is very bad. Specifically, my answer is more biased towards the data point, the data connection. We hardly get any support for connecting the data.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup is complex. The proof of concept itself, connecting the data, finding out what tables are required, that itself is still unclear.
In the training also, they just talk about the SAP data tables. However, when we ask Celonis, they give us 86 different tables. They should be more specific as to phase wise. Phase one, you can start with these eight tables. Phase two, you can start with these eight tables. They should go step by step rather than asking for the entire universe of data.
What about the implementation team?
There are multiple phases of implementation. One is the discovery phase and second is the enhance phase. We have been mostly involved in the discovery phase early. For that, I think 12 weeks would be a good estimate of timeframe. The major time goes in connecting the data only. Four to six weeks goes in just connecting the data.
What other advice do I have?
My advice to anyone considering this solution is focus on the data part, focus on what the connectors are, which data tables are required, and get Celonis to give you exactly what is required page wise, rather than asking for 100 different tables. The clarity needs to be there.
I would rate the solution a seven out of ten.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
Hybrid Cloud
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Head of PMO at a tech services company with 11-50 employees
User-friendly, low code, simple to install, and performs well
Pros and Cons
- "In my opinion, it's quite an advanced tool."
- "The pricing policy is not affordable in Ukraine."
What is our primary use case?
Celonis works with Camunda to identify any issues or loopholes in the process.
It is used for loans and online credit, and it was more theoretical, based on data, and not real in other circumstances.
What is most valuable?
In my opinion, it's quite an advanced tool.
What needs improvement?
The pricing policy is not affordable in Ukraine. For example, in Kazakhstan, we have some negotiations with Azerbaijan country. Telecom is one of the biggest telecom companies in Kazakhstan, but this was a little bit expensive for them.
Now, I think they decided to postpone it because of the price policy.
We could start several projects, and we already have clients that are interested, but the only concern was pricing.
You only need processes to return the money. You need process, you already have the process, but say you need to return $50,000 or $100,000 every month.
However, in the areas where we work, meeting such a high standard is quite challenging.
For example, online loans. It's most likely an interesting case. However, with others, such as finances, some efficient method to make it efficient and return on money is rather challenging. Make it more than efficient.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have been working with Celonis for one year.
We began communicating with our manager in Celonis. We were provided with presentations on how it works and practical experience with some processes.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
Celonis is a stable solution.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
Celonis is a scalable solution.
We tried using telecom data, but it didn't work very well. One of the biggest is undoubtedly telecom, but necessarily the biggest.
They have the largest data warehouses and the largest amounts of customer information, data, or metadata.
It works even though it doesn't map. Work it is. If telecom is involved in a large country, any issues might likely be resolved via other businesses.
We have three developers who are working with Celonis.
We had expectations of of growing, but, we decided to postpone these projects or end our relationship with Celonis if the pricing and model are no longer affordable.
It really changed three or four months ago. And it's no longer a low price.
How are customer service and support?
I have not contacted technical support. My colleagues have, but I don't have any feedback from them.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
I work for an integration company. It is an IT firm in Ukraine, and we are now considering becoming a partner with MaintainX. And we've worked with Bizagi previously, before the conflict.
We are going public with Bizagi, but our clients have postponed these actions for various reasons.
Now we are thinking about Nintex or Nintex K2, whether it's an on-premises, off-premises, or cloud solution.
I don't have much experience as a project manager with One Bank working with Camunda, but I'm not sure if Camunda is a suitable choice for us to partner in Ukraine or another country, because we're currently concentrating on countries other than Ukraine, such as Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Moldova, and Romania.
We have projects in the Benelux countries. And clients frequently inquire about BPM solutions, and we have a process with Nintex.
K2, as you are aware, is comparable to Nintex, however, it is an on-premise solution.
I have experience in Camunda yes, as the head of the project management office. I'm not responsible directly, but mainly about choosing a solution or choosing the partnership.
Before I was focusing on development. A solution for the bank in Ukraine.
We are a partner with UiPath.
Now, we have focused on more ERP. Process management is on pause now.
Now, we start to think about VPN solutions to add to our portfolio, for the clients.
I am familiar with UiPath Process Mining. I don't have a lot of experience with it, just in a few projects. However, I have received feedback from developers.
When compared to Celonis, it has very basic functions.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup is not an issue. I am the head of the PMO. I am not personally responsible for it or using its use, but from what I know from my colleagues it was not difficult.
It already has connections, and it could be integrated with various databases, or from Excel to SAP and others; it works well with this.
What about the implementation team?
We completed the deployment ourselves. We have developers, and for us, it is part of our daily work.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
We already have a Celonis account that we can use to demonstrate to clients. We could use it in some circumstances, but because we are partners and have a partnership with Celonis, we could use it for free.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
We looked into the possibility of using UiPath Process Mining, but from my point of view, or from our discussion, which was around a year ago, it's not adequate for companies like telecom or banks.
It is a matter of connectivity. And while we are completely satisfied with UiPath as an ERP solution, I remember that process mining was not as advanced or as good as we thought.
For complex users, such as our client, it was most important how easy it is to understand the process, how the graphs are clear for them, how they can adjust it, and how many have your products, such as EMC.
For example, suppose you intend to optimize a process. Celonis is far better in this instance.
What other advice do I have?
I would recommend this solution to others who are interested in using it.
It's also quite simple to use, which is a great benefit. It's also a no-code or low-code option. Some other solutions chose to be no code or minimal code, but they were not.
The downside is, of course, the pricing. It is only affordable for large or public companies.
For usability and how it works, I would rate it a nine, but because of the pricing, I would rate Celonis an eight out of ten.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
Public Cloud
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Process Excellence Head at Indian Institute of Management Indore
Great UI, easy to use, and offers very good dashboards
Pros and Cons
- "The solution offers very good division management."
- "The solution needs to implement more automation aspects into the product. Right now, it's lacking."
What is most valuable?
The dashboards are excellent. They really do a good job of giving the best patient data and they help us to discover insights.
The solution is very easy to use and extremely intuitive. There is a period where you need to get used to the tool, however, you just need to play around with the tool itself.
The UI is great.
The solution offers very good division management.
The initial setup is pretty straightforward.
What needs improvement?
In terms of providing some admin-related data, the product could be better. We have a number of users using Celonis and sometimes they're not really sure how much of the dashboard to pay attention to. There should be dashboards that are catered more to administrators. If there was a way to educate those users as well, that would be helpful.
The solution needs to implement more automation aspects into the product. Right now, it's lacking.
For how long have I used the solution?
I've been using the solution for two or three years at this point. It's been a while.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
The solution appears to be quite stable. We haven't had a lot of downtime within the last two years. We had some downtime once, however, it got resolved and it hasn't happened since. There aren't bugs and glitches. It's reliable.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
The solution has been scalable for us. Over time, we have scaled it from one system to multiple systems and that process seemed to happen quite seamlessly. If a company needs to scale, it can do so with little trouble.
We have about 700 people on the solution currently. The amount of actual end-users is around 600. Then we have around 50 to 60 people who are analysts who create dashboards and another 20 to 30 people who are data scientists who provide the support.
How are customer service and technical support?
We are satisfied with technical support and their level of service. In fact, we have a regular catch-up in terms of updates related to any new feature that comes up. They give us a demo for that. Whenever we face any issues, we mention it to them as well. The turnaround time is quite quick. We're quite happy with them.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
We didn't have any previous experience with any other tool. We were looking for a process mining tool. We looked at the leaders in the Gartner study, and Celonis was one of them. We did that initial call with them and we decided to implement it.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup was actually good. It wasn't overly complex.
The deployment didn't take much time. It's easy to install due to the fact that the data scientists can work with it on the data pack in order to find the best way to integrate the applications.
It's not a very complicated thing. A company shouldn't run into any problems when they are implementing it.
We have 20 people who handle deployment and maintenance.
What other advice do I have?
We are consistently using the latest version of the product. When there are updates to the software, we get the latest version all the time.
I'd definitely recommend this solution to others in-house, however, for new companies, I would suggest doing a test or POC to help the company understand what it would get out of the solution.
I'd rate the solution nine out of ten. We've been pretty satisfied overall, however, it would be much better if there were more automation capabilities and more direction for admins.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
Public Cloud
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Senior Consultant at a tech services company with 1,001-5,000 employees
End-users can easily evaluate differences and get the required output
Pros and Cons
- "With the help of data mining, we can identify different costs. Celonis does background research into the data from the different solutions and puts it into the dashboard and so we can see the differences between the pricing over the previous years."
- "In the next release, I would like for them to integrate more custom features to ease the process of having multiple solutions. I would like to be able to integrate it with other solutions."
What is our primary use case?
In terms of our primary use case, for example, we use data mining for the procurement processes. Let's say the company purchased keyboards and mice from vendors for certain prices, for example, $10 for each mouse in 2017. But after 2019, we purchased the same mouse for a different amount. With the help of data mining, we can identify different costs. Celonis does background research into the data from the different solutions and puts it into the dashboard so we can see the differences between the pricing over the previous years.
What is most valuable?
The interface is unique. But in the last few years, UiPath has also developed a data mining solution.
Recently, they have incorporated AI into the new release which is available on the cloud portal that does the machine learning processes and modeling. And we can make the machine learning models in UiPath Studio. We can do a lot of work on data mining. They also offer a lot of other features. We currently recommend Celonis for data mining to our valued customers.
What needs improvement?
Right now in Pakistan, we need to educate our customers and clients on the importance of data mining. We are focusing on that subject and that area to educate our customers and to show them the importance of data mining to help improve their businesses.
We just adopted Celonis and have offered it to our customers for a couple of months. So I do not have vast experience.
For how long have I used the solution?
We have been working with Celonis for a couple of years. We recommend it to our customers for data mining purposes and we recommend UiPath for robotic process automation.
We recommend different deployments based on our customer's needs. Sometimes it's hybrid, cloud or on-prem depending on their needs.
How are customer service and technical support?
We attended a couple of seminars last month. We contacted their support team and they answered our main questions. We asked about the types of licenses we can purchase and which we can pitch to our customers. We get a very fast response from Celonis support. We are satisfied with their support.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup was straightforward.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
The pricing is reasonable.
What other advice do I have?
I would rate it a ten out of ten. They have a very unique product because it gives the user a dashboard. End-users can easily evaluate the differences and get the required output. It fulfills the requirements of the end-user.
In the next release, I would like for them to integrate more custom features to ease the process of having multiple solutions. I would like to be able to integrate it with other solutions.
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Senior Director at a consultancy with 51-200 employees
Very stable and scalable and has a lot of pre-built analysis that saves time, but needs flexibility and better support and licensing model
Pros and Cons
- "Its usage is relatively straightforward after the UI is set up. There's a lot of pre-built analysis that can be utilized, which saves a lot of time. Overall, it is a good product."
- "It should be more flexible. It is not particularly flexible in the way it works, and it is quite rigid. It has some very strong structures that you have to follow. It could certainly be made more user-friendly to understand and should have fewer requirements for manipulation of the data to create the visualizations. We should also get better support from Celonis, and they also need to make the licensing model slightly different."
What is our primary use case?
It is a process mining tool. You can use it to track and monitor any process in your business, such as Finance, HR, or Operations.
What is most valuable?
Its usage is relatively straightforward after the UI is set up. There's a lot of pre-built analysis that can be utilized, which saves a lot of time. Overall, it is a good product.
What needs improvement?
It should be more flexible. It is not particularly flexible in the way it works, and it is quite rigid. It has some very strong structures that you have to follow. It could certainly be made more user-friendly to understand and should have fewer requirements for manipulation of the data to create the visualizations.
We should also get better support from Celonis, and they also need to make the licensing model slightly different.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have been using this solution for a year or so.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
It is very stable.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
It is very scalable. Currently, we have five users in our company. We will certainly keep on using it, and we will increase its usage perhaps in March.
How are customer service and technical support?
We should get better support from Celonis.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
We weren't using anything else.
How was the initial setup?
It is not straightforward. It is a complex implementation process in terms of getting the right data and getting that transformed into the environment.
The deployment duration depends on the project. The process of creating the actual environment itself is relatively quick and easy. You can spin up the environment quite quickly. When you're trying to manipulate the data to create the visualizations, it can take significantly longer.
What about the implementation team?
We are a consultancy house. We do the implementation ourselves. We easily need a team of six to ten people.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
It is quite a significant investment. From a cost perspective, they need to reevaluate the licensing model. The cost is justified, but they need to make the licensing model slightly different.
What other advice do I have?
I would recommend this solution. I would rate Celonis a seven of ten.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
Public Cloud
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Chief Executive Officer at a real estate/law firm with 11-50 employees
Suitable for small and big enterprises and comes with comprehensive training material
Pros and Cons
- "The training material is good. The information is very systematic, detailed, and comprehensive. They have a training video for almost every single thing, which makes it easier to know how to use the tool."
- "We want to see its linkage to Robotic Process Automation. We would also like to see how can it lead to the implementation side and whether the transition is smooth."
What is our primary use case?
We do consultancy in digital transformation. We are starting to go into process mining and automation. Currently, not many people are involved. We are trying to increase the number.
We are thinking of offering RPA as one of our solutions. That's why process mining becomes very important to us because we need a means of analyzing what is happening in our client's company.
What is most valuable?
The training material is good. The information is very systematic, detailed, and comprehensive. They have a training video for almost every single thing, which makes it easier to know how to use the tool.
What needs improvement?
We want to see its linkage to Robotic Process Automation. We would also like to see how can it lead to the implementation side and whether the transition is smooth.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have been using Celonis for three months. I am using the SNAP version.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
It is stable.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
It is very scalable so far. I haven't not encountered limitations.
How are customer service and technical support?
I haven't contacted them so far.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup is easy. It took us about a month to deploy.
What other advice do I have?
I would recommend Celonis. It is suitable for both small and big enterprises because they have a few versions. You can use it in small enterprises when the data volume is not large. As you move to larger data volumes, you can use the enterprise version. In that sense, they have a cost-effective way of managing the expansion and growth of the whole project.
They have also spent a lot of time on the education side, which is good. The information has been very detailed. You get to learn how to use it quite easily.
I would rate Celonis a nine out of ten.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Senior Analyst at Delite Technologies pvt ltd
Effective multi-hop analysis, highly scalable, but other programming languages needed
Pros and Cons
- "The documentation, multi-hop analysis, and SLA breaches are the most valuable features we have discovered."
- "The Process Query Language (PQL) native language used in Celonis needs improvements. It has most of the process-related functions but we have queries from clients that cannot be done in PQL."
What is our primary use case?
We use this solution in the telecom sector for a number of things, such as multi-hop analysis and SLA breaches.
What is most valuable?
The documentation, multi-hop analysis, and SLA breaches are the most valuable features we have discovered.
What needs improvement?
The Process Query Language (PQL) native language used in Celonis needs improvements. It has most of the process-related functions but we have queries from clients that cannot be done in PQL.
Most of the KPIs are done in PQL, if we could have support for other languages, such as Python. We could directly configure our KPIs using these other languages and it would be a great help.
When I am uploading data to Celonis it sometimes fails and this should be fixed in an upcoming release.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have been using this solution within the last 12 months.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
This solution is stable and reliable. It has all the security features needed.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
I have found Celonis highly scalable, they have various connectors which we can directly download and connect to many source systems.
We have approximately 100 people using this solution in my organization and we plan to increase usage. We are targeting US and European markets, we definitely have a good pipeline for Celonis at the moment.
How are customer service and technical support?
The technical support is responsive but I would not rate them as being very good because sometimes they get stuck and are not able to provide a reliable solution. There are times they do not understand the exact issue. They respond quickly but when we connect with them, we are faced with these issues.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup was complex. The full deployment took approximately three months, this includes all the connectivity and KPI configuring. If you have a more basic setup it could take approximately two months.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
The solution requires an annual license. There is room for improvement because it is priced for organizations and not for individuals. For an individual, it would be too expensive for them to use it.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
We evaluated a couple of software solutions before we chose Celonis for our clients because it has most of the features we were looking for, it is quite user-friendly, and it has an Azure configure.
I have evaluated and have a good understanding of Minit and UiPath.
What other advice do I have?
I would recommend Celonis to anybody who wants to enter into process mining space. My advice would be to have as much SQL knowledge as possible. They should learn SQL first before using this solution, it will make everything a lot easier.
I rate Celonis a seven out of ten.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
Public Cloud
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Head of International Markets at a consultancy with 201-500 employees
Useful automatic mapping, integrates well, and responsive technical support
Pros and Cons
- "I have found the automatic mapping of the processes themselves to be a valuable feature."
- "In the solution, you have access to how the process is, and are able to integrate that with other systems that allow you to make changes to the process itself, this process can be improved."
What is our primary use case?
We use the solution in our financial department for involving purchases and other similar types of processes.
How has it helped my organization?
The solution has benefited our organization by having more transparency. A lot of times organizations are not aware of exactly how the process is in reality, the fact that they can map out the process and then see how the process is working in real-time is a huge benefit.
What is most valuable?
I have found the automatic mapping of the processes themselves to be a valuable feature. The fact that this solution is agnostic and you can map a process across multiple systems almost automatically from the moment that you have the data mapped out, makes our lives much easier.
What needs improvement?
In the solution, you have access to how the process is, and are able to integrate that with other systems that allow you to make changes to the process itself, this process can be improved.
Additionally, instead of having, for example, an end-to-end experience within the solution, it is very nice for the analysis parts, but when it comes down to action, then we need to step out of it.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have been using the solution for the last 18 months.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
The solution is very stable.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
I have found the solution really easy to scale up. We have 16 people using the platform that includes data engineers and data scientists. At the moment we do not plan to increase the usage.
How are customer service and technical support?
The technical support has been good in my experience. They normally respond within a couple of hours, sometimes it takes one or two days depending on the issue.
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
We previously used Marvin, we switched because this solution is enterprise-grade. Marvin requires a lot of time-consuming tasks in terms of mapping out the processes, while in this solution it comes like that out of the box. It is almost a plug-and-play solution, once you have that already.
How was the initial setup?
The installation can be difficult but it depends. It varies quite a lot from organization to organization and depending on the level of maturity on their data. Most organizations need to spend a significant amount of time working on the data itself before we can actually purchase the solution. This drawback is not directly related to the solution itself.
What about the implementation team?
We did the deployment and it requires limited personnel, one data engineer and data scientist would be fine. The duration of the deployment depends a lot on the organization, the process of analysis, and on how many systems that process goes through. It can take anywhere between two to six months.
Our implementation strategy comes down to the data first. We look at the quality of the data, the consistency of the data across multiple systems. If we can identify unique fields that allow us to connect the data, then after that, we need to think about what is the processes with the most inefficiency in theory from the organization side. We also conduct a lot of interviews with the business users. Once we think we found the most inefficient process, then we apply the solution to it and we analyze it black and white, if that is the reality or not.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
Evaluating the price of the solution can be a difficult question. It is all about the business case and the return of the investments. That is typically how we also see this type of solution. It depends very much on the return. The entry-level is focused on enterprise size companies, for the SMB segment is it is out of their range. It is definitely expensive.
We pay for a recurring license. There are a couple of add-ons that have a price that can be useful for you as an organization or not, but they have some additional modules. We are also talking about daily consumption, the more data you process on the solutions platform, the more you need to pay. You also need to keep that in mind.
I would like to see a different license model for the solution in the future.
What other advice do I have?
My advice to those looking to implement the solution is to first look at the data, this is the first step and the biggest mistake. If there is no data or the data maturity is quite slow, then you cannot use this solution as a platform.
One of the biggest lessons I have learned is most often the reality or the level of understanding of how an organization works is very different from reality. The power of this solution is that black and white reality check on how the internal processes of the organization work.
I rate Celonis and eight out of ten.
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