I have been a consultant for SAP retail, SAP Fashion as well as generic. I also have been exposed to many business sectors.
SAP MM Consultant at Applexus Technologies Inc.
Offers good stability and can be used in various sectors, including retail and manufacturing
Pros and Cons
- "The initial setup is not complex; it's more at a medium level. Not too easy, but with the right knowledge, you can configure it."
- "The user interface should be much more convenient and user-friendly."
What is our primary use case?
What needs improvement?
The user interface should be much more convenient and user-friendly.
In future releases, there could be more use of AI.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have been using this solution for more than five years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
The solution offers good stability.
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What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
I would rate the scalability a nine out of ten. It is reliable. I have a lot of customers using this solution. There are more than 500 end users.
How are customer service and support?
The customer service and support are fast. SAP addressed my tickets quite quickly.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup is not complex; it's more at a medium level. Not too easy, but with the right knowledge, you can configure it.
What about the implementation team?
For a migration process, it took around six to seven months, which was the fastest I've done. For implementation projects, it typically takes around one year, sometimes one and a half.
It was implemented in a waterfall approach, and one was brownfield. I would suggest, not from the SAP side, but from the client side, if the hardware components are powerful, the system would run faster. In migration projects, data migration can take a lot of time, so having a reliable server is important.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
We recommend annual licensing. It is expensive, but for large-scale companies, it's manageable.
What other advice do I have?
I would rate the solution a nine out of ten. I would say that SAP should make the user interface more user-friendly, which would be a plus point, especially in pre-sales.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Senior Consultant at Inteliwaves
Offers business enterprise planning and enterprise resource management
Pros and Cons
- "One of the things I like about it is its well-integrated and secure nature."
- "So, there is room for improvement in pricing. HANA is not a simple product; it's quite complex by design."
What is our primary use case?
It's mainly for business enterprise planning and enterprise resource management.
What is most valuable?
One of the things I like about it is its well-integrated and secure nature.
What needs improvement?
Considering it's not a small product, improving pricing would be helpful.
So, there is room for improvement in pricing. HANA is not a simple product; it's quite complex by design.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have been using this solution for five years. So initially, I worked with DC for two years. After that, it became a mix. It's not straightforward. I started with PCC, then spent some time with HANA, and then switched to CCB. Currently, I am working with HANA.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
I would rate the stability an eight out of ten. It's quite stable, but given that it's a cloud solution, there are ongoing updates and new components in every quarter. So, we get four updates annually.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
It is a scalable solution. In my organization, we serve many clients, so there are numerous users. We have around ten customers. We are a service-based company.
How are customer service and support?
The customer service and support are good and knowledgeable.
How would you rate customer service and support?
Positive
How was the initial setup?
It's somewhat straightforward but can be a bit complex, after all Fortune 500 companies also use this solution. It depends on the specific use case.
What about the implementation team?
It's available for both on-premises and cloud deployment.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
Our customers do need to pay for licenses. It is expensive.
What other advice do I have?
I would recommend using this solution to other people as well. Overall, I would rate the solution a ten out of ten. Currently, the solution is adapting to the cloud.
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SAP BC CONSULTANT at a consultancy with self employed
A powerful solution with Fiori interface
Pros and Cons
- "We use the solution for a retail customer. As an administrator, my activities involve system installation, troubleshooting, and performance management."
- "The tool could improve development, particularly during upgrades or conversions from ERP systems to the solution. Adapting the code to the new standards can be challenging, especially when customers try to keep their old ERP developments."
What is our primary use case?
We use the solution for a retail customer. As an administrator, my activities involve system installation, troubleshooting, and performance management.
What needs improvement?
The tool could improve development, particularly during upgrades or conversions from ERP systems to the solution. Adapting the code to the new standards can be challenging, especially when customers try to keep their old ERP developments.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have been using the product since 2018.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
I rate the tool's stability a ten out of ten.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
SAP S/4HANA's scalability is good.
How are customer service and support?
I have contacted SAP's technical support, mainly for incidents rather than during installation. They're about 90% accurate, but sometimes they can be slow or misunderstand the issue.
How would you rate customer service and support?
Positive
How was the initial setup?
The product's deployment is easy and fast. The deployment time varies depending on the scenario and environment. From development to production, it can take a few weeks. Starting the development system doesn't take long if you have all the preparations done - like sizing, setting up the final systems, and accessing them.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
The tool's licensing is very expensive. They've changed their licensing model from the old ERP system to a new model using FUEs, which is somewhat better but still expensive.
What other advice do I have?
I'm not directly involved in financial operations. However, from conversations with colleagues in finance, I understand there have been improvements since using the tool. The main challenge is often user resistance to change, as they're used to working with the previous system.
I advise new users to get an overview or take a course to understand the system's capabilities. Preparing the end-users for the implementation is crucial, especially when moving from old systems to new ones.
I rate the product a nine out of ten. It's a really powerful tool that has been improving since around 2016. The improvements in the Fiori interface and its integration with the system are particularly impressive.
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Last updated: Aug 11, 2024
Flag as inappropriateSenior Architect at a construction company with 10,001+ employees
Stable with a straightforward setup and good documentation
Pros and Cons
- "The solution can scale well."
- "We would like to see more DevOps capabilities in the future."
What is most valuable?
The POD applications are very useful to us. There are a few POD apps which we are using for the different business scenarios. They are quite interesting.
The initial setup is pretty straightforward. The documentation is very good.
The solution can scale well.
The solution is stable.
What needs improvement?
It's been just one year that we started using this product, due to the fact that we need to have different integrations as well to other systems. With S/4HANA, when SAP started, everything worked in a single SAP system. Slowly then it's been delegated or divided into multiple SAP systems. That's why we have around 25 different SAP products running in our landscape. Yet, at the same time, S/4HANA is the core. It's the core component.
Going forward, I believe more systems could be consolidated into S/4HANA. We need to reduce the number of SAP systems running in our landscape. S/4HANA has the capacity to host many other SAP products, therefore we can discontinue some of the SAP products. Currently, we have now the Global Services, the Governance, Risk, and Compliance, and Enterprise Portal, BW, Supply Chain Management, Warehouse Management, et cetera. If SAP could consolidate many of the systems so that we can reduce the number of systems, that would be ideal.
The solution can be a bit expensive.
We would like to see more DevOps capabilities in the future.
The solution would benefit from offering more serverless features in the sense that when you deploy SAP, it's a pretty big deployment and you have a lot of dependencies or you are closely tied up or you have a dependency with the hardware vendor and the hardware providers and the certified hardware and items like that. At the same time, all these deployed components and these files are possible to deploy without a server as well. Slowly SAP is providing some of the features so that you can deploy this in containers and so you don't have any dependency on the running hardware. That way, you can restart the systems without any downtime or the end-users will not feel the difference. Aspects like that need to be improved.
We do have here monthly maintenance due to the fact that sometimes we need to recharge the system and we have seen from the end-users there will be certain downtime as well. If there is no dependency with the hardware and if it goes serverless, then we can have zero-downtime maintenance.
For how long have I used the solution?
We've been using the solution for the past year or so. It hasn't been that long.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
The solution is very stable. There are no bugs or glitches. It doesn't crash or freeze. It's very reliable.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
The solution is scalable. At the same time, it depends on where you deploy your systems. If you deploy your systems in Azure, then it would be using the scalability of Azure. If you deploy in AWS, it uses the scalability of AWS. If you deploy in a virtual private environment, then it depends on where you deployed the system. At the same time, it depends on being compatible with all these different hyper-scalers. For the most part, it goes pretty well with the different platforms.
We are deploying the solution in different countries. Currently, we have close to 10,000 users working in SAP. Yearly, we do the deployment in multiple countries. In two months, we deploy in one more country. There will be another 200, 300 more users will be coming. By the end of this year, there will be 2,000 more users. Currently, around 10,000 users are using this application.
How are customer service and technical support?
The SAP S/4HANA technical support is mainly with the service provider. When you deploy SAP, you have different support teams. Most of the time, you will have a service provider or a supplier that you would be associating with. You will have a kind of application management or infrastructure management support with that vendor. For example, IBM, Capgemini, Accenture, DXC. They are the different vendors. However, then you get the OEM support via the SAP Support Portal for product-related issues. That support has got different priority levels based on the importance. Generally, we know how the SAP support works and it's acceptable. We're satisfied with the level of support provided overall.
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup isn't too difficult. It's pretty straightforward for the most part. SAP has got some good documentation and there are different migration scenarios and implementation scenarios you can work with. With the help of documentation, things are pretty straightforward.
What about the implementation team?
Most of the time, you do the SAP deployment or the migration with a partner. SAP has got certified partners to help with the implementation.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
SAP has got different license mechanisms. It depends on how many SAP products you run and then how do you negotiate with the SAP teams and what kind of offer you get. At the same time, generally, everyone says SAP products are a bit costly.
Some of the SAP systems are licensed based on the number of CPUs that are being deployed, and some of the SAP products are licensed based on the number of primary users, and some of the SAP systems are based on the database footprint. Different SAP products have different license mechanisms, so there should be a person who is knowledgeable about SAP that can understand and then review the licensing agreement and get the right SAP product - and perhaps help negotiate the price.
What other advice do I have?
We are customers and end-users.
We have around 25 different SAP products. We are using SAP S/4HANA in our company.
The production and the test systems are deployed in the virtual private cloud on-premise, and we have sandbox development and quality systems are deployed in the Azure public cloud.
I'd rate the solution at an eight out of ten.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
Public Cloud
If public cloud, private cloud, or hybrid cloud, which cloud provider do you use?
Microsoft Azure
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Good for vertical customizations but too costly and complex for other use cases
Pros and Cons
- "The finance solution and procurement functionalities are good."
- "Items that impact the TCO should be improved because the solution is very complex to integrate and keep running."
What is our primary use case?
Our company implements the solution for customers in the chemical and pharmaceutical industries. We manage transformational projects that include selection, upgrade, or replacement of systems that require ERP solutions.
Our biggest implementation was for a chemical company's software hub that was custom-built on an AS/400 mainframe and they wanted to move to an ERP system. After a six-month package selection process, we chose the solution combined with extensions provided by an implementation partner that added specific functionality and narrowed down customizations.
Across all of our projects, there are 5,000 users of the solution.
What is most valuable?
The finance solution and procurement functionalities are good.
What needs improvement?
Items that impact the TCO should be improved because the solution is very complex to integrate and keep running.
Integration with a portal or front end is needed. For example, the online collaboration part of SAP with vendors lacks functionality. Integrating with sales or service processes with a CRM or cloud for customers uses three different SAP systems. Customers typically choose Salesforce instead because the SAP system is not good.
There is a very large learning curve for different domains from an end user perspective. Some things are easy to understand and other things are complex. Users receive cryptic error messages when they do things that they do not fully understand.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have been using the solution for seven years.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
The solution is stable with no complaints from customers.
On occasion, users get cryptic error messages that they cannot resolve themselves. Someone else has to assist which results in downtime from the IT side and that has a negative impact on business performance.
How are customer service and support?
Implementation partners handle issues with support staff and response times are very high. Support staff know the product in most cases and are good.
It might take time for implementation partners to be notified of issues and then reach out to support for assistance. This support chain is expensive because the customer is invoiced based on the number of total support hours needed.
I rate technical support an eight out of ten.
How would you rate customer service and support?
Positive
How was the initial setup?
The initial setup requires advanced knowledge and can take two to three days. In some cases, setup can take several days before demo mode is available.
What about the implementation team?
Implementation partners handle setups and our company handles project management and quality assurance from the customer's perspective.
Customers do not manage the complex environment on their own but rather depend on service providers such as Deloitte or Capgemini. The price of operational support only makes sense or is efficient in instances with two or three FTEs.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
The solution often does not survive our shortlist round because it is very expensive when compared to other products. It is only appropriate or selected for very specific use cases and types of companies.
In some cases, the solution is ten to twenty-five times more expensive than competitors like Dynamics because it requires licensing, cloud environment costs, and contracts for maintenance and support.
Which other solutions did I evaluate?
Our company recommends various ERP systems depending on use case and customer environment. We have worked with Dynamics 365, NetSuite, Unit4, N4, Baan, and Vision. We work on transformation trajectories for customers who use ERP systems and want to replace, upgrade, or do a greenfield approach.
The solution is a good fit for use cases where customizations are required on top to cover sector-specific business needs, as opposed to custom greenfield implementations of Dynamics 365 with much custom development. The solution reduces the amount of customization that needs to be implemented.
Use cases for domains with no vertical solution built on top are not a good fit for the solution.
The solution is complex to learn and user acceptance of NetSuite is ten times faster.
What other advice do I have?
It is difficult to rate the solution. For some customers, it is a seven and for others it is a one out of ten. It really depends on the sector and fit gap between needs and business processes.
There are many cases or exceptions where the solution is not a good fit, so I rate it a four out of ten overall.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
Hybrid Cloud
If public cloud, private cloud, or hybrid cloud, which cloud provider do you use?
Other
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Offers good integration and a database that functions at a lightning speed
Pros and Cons
- "It is a full-fledged, stable solution."
- "The tool needs to improve its interface and functionalities."
What is our primary use case?
My company's clients use the solution as an ERP tool.
What is most valuable?
The tool's best features are its competitive features and its ability to be used as an integrated solution. SAP S/4 HANA's speed is good compared to other ERPs, and its database can be used at lightning speed.
What needs improvement?
SAP improves the tool every quarter. I received a certification for cloud products from SAP. My company is also trying to improve the tool's knowledge base. The tool needs to improve its interface and functionalities.
The tool should be more well-integrated or inclined towards AI or AI developments like chatbots or ChatGPT.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have been using SAP S/4HANA for ten years. I am an SQL consultant working with an implementation company, not the end user or the product user. My company has a partnership with SAP.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
It is a full-fledged, stable solution. Stability-wise, I rate the solution a ten out of ten.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
Scalability-wise, I rate the solution a nine and a half out of ten.
My company deals with small, medium, and enterprise-sized businesses. SAP has different plans to support the tool, and it can reduce the number of licenses nowadays by supporting different packages.
How are customer service and support?
The solution's technical support is awesome. SAP's technical staff immensely supports the partners and consultants associated with SAP. I rate the technical support a ten out of ten.
How would you rate customer service and support?
Positive
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
I have used Sage ERP in some other organizations. I have also used Tally before it became an ERP tool. Tally was the cheapest tool available in India and the other GCC countries, though we can't compare it with SAP. I prefer SAP products over other tools.
How was the initial setup?
I rate the product's initial setup phase as an eight to eight and a half, where one is difficult and ten is easy.
The solution is deployed on the cloud and on on-premises models.
The solution is mostly deployed on the cloud, but in the on-premise version, you can use the Fiori app, though it is not mandatory. When it comes to the cloud, there are no other options because the Fiori apps should be used. The look and feel of the tool are pretty good compared to the tool's previous version, which was on the on-premises model.
The time required to implement the product depends on the industry where the product is implemented and the complexities involved in such industries. If there are some complexities, users may need to develop something or customize a few areas of the product. Four to six months will be enough if it is a standard deployment. Four to six months will be enough if it's a standard, and it also depends on the project size.
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
It is never a cheap product since it is a prime tool in the worldwide market.
What other advice do I have?
I recommend the product to others.
I rate the tool a ten out of ten.
Which deployment model are you using for this solution?
Hybrid Cloud
Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: Partner
Last updated: Jun 26, 2024
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Provides real-time analytics and decision-making by leveraging embedded analytics
Pros and Cons
- "SAP S/4HANA has been an excellent integrated solution for my clients, technically much easier to manage than the ECC solution. The embedded AI layer helps adopt intelligent AI directly within business scenarios, which has been very beneficial. These features enhance operations and efficiency for my clients."
- "Extensions to SAP S/4HANA have room for improvement, especially in integration with low-code/no-code platforms. Creating these extensions through Fiori transactions is more tedious than customers would like. Although the SAP build process has become more linear, further improvements could provide a huge benefit."
What is our primary use case?
SAP S/4HANA is the predominant solution from SAP, replacing the earlier SAP ECC. It's widely used for overall enterprise resource planning, including running banking operations and other enterprise functions.
How has it helped my organization?
My client's organization uses SAP S/4HANA for real-time analytics and decision-making by leveraging embedded analytics that are part of S/4HANA. Some organizations integrate specialized BW layers or their own data house layers for analytics, using SCC or BI for visualization. Others extract data from SAP S/4HANA to other hyperscalers or providers to create visualizations.
SAP S/4HANA supports my client's business processes in finance, procurement, and supply chain management through end-to-end management. This is often done with other IT specialists or independently for smaller customers using SAP S/4HANA.
What is most valuable?
SAP S/4HANA has been an excellent integrated solution for my clients, technically much easier to manage than the ECC solution. The embedded AI layer helps adopt intelligent AI directly within business scenarios, which has been very beneficial. These features enhance operations and efficiency for my clients.
What needs improvement?
Extensions to SAP S/4HANA have room for improvement, especially in integration with low-code/no-code platforms. Creating these extensions through Fiori transactions is more tedious than customers would like. Although the SAP build process has become more linear, further improvements could provide a huge benefit.
For how long have I used the solution?
I have been using SAP S/4HANA since 2013.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
It's a very stable system overall, but with new attacks targeting customers' SAP landscapes, the latest patches and versions must be applied. I would rate the stability an eight.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
The scalability of SAP S/4HANA is high, around nine. Typically, my clients are medium or enterprise businesses.
How are customer service and support?
They are not excellent, but they are not bad either.
How would you rate customer service and support?
Positive
Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?
How was the initial setup?
I would rate the initial setup of SAP S/4HANA as one because it is challenging. Implementing SAP S/4HANA involves integrating an organisation's processes, including different departments, geographical locations, and compliance requirements. Given the scale of these businesses, such as operations in multiple countries, it's complex and not meant to be simple.The physical deployment of SAP S/4HANA is not a challenge.
The deployment itself might happen within a day or even a few hours, given the accessible hardware. The time-consuming part is identifying the needed components, areas, services, and software. The actual deployment process is simple, but adjusting the software to meet your needs is complex. It's not the physical deployment of the application that is the problem.
SAP S/4HANA is usually deployed on the cloud through its own SAP
mechanism. This allows for deployment on both public and private cloud options.
What about the implementation team?
What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?
Regarding pricing, I don't regularly deal with the financial aspects, but it is not a cheap solution.
What other advice do I have?
When migrating to SAP S/4HANA, productivity initially dipped as organizations adjusted to the previous system. This is due to the need for change management and adapting to the new software. However, once the transition is complete, productivity significantly improves due to faster response times, a more mobile-centric approach, and better data handling. Overall, SAP S/4HANA helps users perform their tasks more efficiently.
SAP S/4HANA might not be able to address all business challenges directly, but other products can be integrated to fill these gaps. For example, difficulties like sustainability or energy rating do not have a direct solution within SAP S/4HANA. Similarly, areas like contact centre or customer call centre management are not directly part of SAP S/4HANA, but partner solutions are available to address these needs.
Overall, I would rate it an eight out of ten.
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Last updated: Jun 6, 2024
Flag as inappropriateEasy-to-use and user-friendly solution
Pros and Cons
- "SAP S/4HANA is a very easy-to-use and user-friendly solution."
- "The solution’s stability could be improved."
What is our primary use case?
My client is a biomedical company that sells medical devices. I use Tricentis Tosca to automate SAP.
What is most valuable?
SAP S/4HANA is a very easy-to-use and user-friendly solution.
What needs improvement?
The solution’s stability could be improved.
What do I think about the stability of the solution?
I rate the solution a seven out of ten for stability.
What do I think about the scalability of the solution?
I rate the solution’s scalability an eight out of ten.
What other advice do I have?
Overall, I rate SAP S/4HANA a nine out of ten.
Disclosure: I am a real user, and this review is based on my own experience and opinions.
Last updated: May 22, 2024
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